You don't have to cheat to be sucessfull at end game!!!

[Eulore]

What about the bible verse that he had in his search comment a while back that basically implied "everyone else does it, why can't I?"? Seems pretty self-incriminating to me.

And stfu about dalmatica. No one cares.

 

[Anaeran]

This is getting ridiculous. Are people really this ignorant or just ignoring the facts??? There is some blatant evidence against a handful of people and we still have folks denying it to the bitter end. The same folks who are in denial are on a high fucking horse talking down to the legit players who are hanging tough in the end game arena. I call bullshit. You aren't better than us so stop thinking you are.

Admit the mistake. That's the first step. Then stop it. Cut the proven cheaters and learn how to play the game the way it was meant to be played. Its not hard. If you still want to allow cheaters to claim for you, then you're no goddamn better than they are and you should be banned too.

/rant off

 

[Toboe]

Ummm... no offense Neo... but asides from the language, he is not saying anything to you in that pm that you have not thrown at him to begin with...
How does it actually compromises his position any further?

 

[Dowzer]

It's OH all over again, except these guys can actually kill stuff.

I'll post the screenshot of Ugotjacked saying Chron stopped botting when I get home.

 

[Elemmire]

End-game isn't always that fun.

than why bother with the aspects of end game that aren't fun? personally, I liked camping for 3 hours and only spamming for a minute or so every 30 minutes. It was fun. Meant I could chat with people, do my homework, and other things. Granted, if you're JUST sitting there like a bump on a log doing nothing for the 3 hours you'd prolly get bored.. but over all.. if it's not fun, why do it? it's a game, not life. In life you do things you don't find fun cause if you don't you won't necessarily have a good place to live, eat, etc. But in game? *shrugs* ah well

 

[Marajade]

than why bother with the aspects of end game that aren't fun? personally, I liked camping for 3 hours and only spamming for a minute or so every 30 minutes. It was fun. Meant I could chat with people, do my homework, and other things. Granted, if you're JUST sitting there like a bump on a log doing nothing for the 3 hours you'd prolly get bored.. but over all.. if it's not fun, why do it? it's a game, not life. In life you do things you don't find fun cause if you don't you won't necessarily have a good place to live, eat, etc. But in game? *shrugs* ah well

Because some stuff is fun for different people.

Take Zoolander. His best times are tanking wyrms and junk, because its a challenge. Me on Wyrms? I sit there, pulling adds away from the tanks and main group to be killed. Not exactly riveting action.

 

[Firestreak]

errr weird double post

 

[Bjornar]

than why bother with the aspects of end game that aren't fun? personally, I liked camping for 3 hours and only spamming for a minute or so every 30 minutes. It was fun. Meant I could chat with people, do my homework, and other things. Granted, if you're JUST sitting there like a bump on a log doing nothing for the 3 hours you'd prolly get bored.. but over all.. if it's not fun, why do it? it's a game, not life. In life you do things you don't find fun cause if you don't you won't necessarily have a good place to live, eat, etc. But in game? *shrugs* ah well

I think you missed my point. This game is based around hard earned
achivements, at least end-game. It's a grind. Most Kaizen people I know
when I talk to them they say "I rather be doing something else etc". I
think this is the case for most people. I guess you can twist and turn
on what I said, but you won't, right?^^

 

[Bjornar]

It's OH all over again, except these guys can actually kill stuff.

I'll post the screenshot of Ugotjacked saying Chron stopped botting when I get home.

I get scared when someone from HNMPT posts in a thread regarding botting.

 

[Zoolander]

This is getting ridiculous. Are people really this ignorant or just ignoring the facts??? There is some blatant evidence against a handful of people and we still have folks denying it to the bitter end. The same folks who are in denial are on a high fucking horse talking down to the legit players who are hanging tough in the end game arena. I call bullshit. You aren't better than us so stop thinking you are.

Admit the mistake. That's the first step. Then stop it. Cut the proven cheaters and learn how to play the game the way it was meant to be played. Its not hard. If you still want to allow cheaters to claim for you, then you're no goddamn better than they are and you should be banned too.

/rant off

lol when did we ever say that? Sorry, but to say we havent accomplished more end game things than you would indeed be a lie, its a simple fact. Are you guys where we were only a few months ago? Hell yes. You're nid kill was impressive and your close to downing Jorm. Are you trying to pic a fight with us? Because honestly if you guys wanna jump on the bandwagon, go for it.

We worked hard to take down jorm just like you did. I spent countless hours and gil working on nin/drk build up to use as one of the centerpieces for our wyrm kills and kept on our plds to lvl /nin for the big fights. We worked alot on the correct ways to handle adds, deal with shit+fan, deal damage, manage to keep hate, and to stay alive. And we brought the bitch down and havent turned back since.

We knew with success would come enemies, always has and always will. Your little rant here is laughable though, and pretty unprovoked.

 

[Zethren]

Christmas cookies and a Holiday Juice box to the Mod who takes the BLM/A body stuff out of this thread and puts it into a new one.
Pretty please.!

 

[Dowzer]

I get scared when someone from HNMPT posts in a thread regarding botting.

Big whoop? I let the leaders know when I see anything. Just like when Tyrath told me about Diocepheus possibly flee hacking.

I acknowledge people when they say fellow members cheat.

You seem to just deny it.

 

[Legomyeggo]

Ummm... no offense Neo... but asides from the language, he is not saying anything to you in that pm that you have not thrown at him to begin with...
How does it actually compromises his position any further?

It's the sense that it was written in that I find so incriminating. The fact that he's willing to say I cheat and I got mods from Necrosis like himself (according to the screenshots). Why would he want me to sink myself to such a low level? The best assumption I can make is that if he has to go down, he wants to take me and as many other people as possible with him.

 

[Zylia]

Christmas cookies and a Holiday Juice box to the Mod who takes the BLM/A body stuff out of this thread and puts it into a new one.
Pretty please.!

seconded

 

[Elemmire]

I think you missed my point. This game is based around hard earned
achivements, at least end-game. It's a grind. Most Kaizen people I know
when I talk to them they say "I rather be doing something else etc". I
think this is the case for most people. I guess you can twist and turn
on what I said, but you won't, right?^^

I guess I did.. but seriously.. at this point I don't give a fuck what it is. I'll go if I wanna go, and if I don't, I don't. It's a game, I'm not gonna give myself more stress and annoy myself.. I have enough stress in life. I will not let a game add to it like it used to. That's one reason I don't play all that much anymore. I don't mind if I sleep through a dynamis or anything cause I don't really care about items or my ranking on the tier or crap like that. I go for fun, I tend to pay attention and try harder when I'm having fun. If I'm too tired or not in the mood, I won't go. It's one reason I don't care to nor have I been looking for an end-game LS right now.. cause I do know many would ask me to show up to this and that.. most things I bet you I would love showing up to depending the time. I love doing Rostrum Pumps, I love doing BCNMs, KS99 (any KS really), I love doing ENMs, I love doing Gration, etc. Even HNMs I tend to enjoy, but there are certain HNMs I might not feel like doing and too much I felt like I was needed so I went even though I was too tired or something :| so now.. if I play, I just do what I want, and I try to do what I want avoiding most people cause I know I can't necessarily do what I want when it comes to other people being involved.. it's why I've been solo-ing a lot of my exping lately when I'm on. Exp solo my NIN, SAM, THF, etc. Hehe

 

[Bjornar]

Big whoop? I let the leaders know when I see anything. Just like when Tyrath told me about Diocepheus possibly flee hacking.

I acknowledge people when they say fellow members cheat.

You seem to just deny it.

Look who is banned. Me, or you?

 

[Dowzer]

Look who is banned. Me, or you?

My friends know I'm legit, could care less what you think.

 

[Marajade]

My friends know I'm legit, could care less what you think.

So, us defending chronicles, saying we know he's legit, is irrelevant?

 

[Blazeoffury]

What about the bible verse that he had in his search comment a while back that basically implied "everyone else does it, why can't I?"? Seems pretty self-incriminating to me.

And stfu about dalmatica. No one cares.

Or maybe he could have been pointing out the person who made this accusation. You know, read the verse, "He who is without sin throw the first stone." Who made the accusation against Chronicles?<a.k.a. casting the first stone> Necrosis, who is also a known botter. The fact you have a known botter trying to accuse someone without actual proof that they are botting is just rediculous to say the least and deserves no rebuttle. The fact that all of the "High and Mighty" people on the server followed the accusation of a known botter is in itself, rediculous to say the least. You people who claim to hate botters and have no trust in them, well you sure do follow them like a sheep to slaughter. This isn't the only case of it either.

This is getting ridiculous. Are people really this ignorant or just ignoring the facts??? There is some blatant evidence against a handful of people and we still have folks denying it to the bitter end. The same folks who are in denial are on a high fucking horse talking down to the legit players who are hanging tough in the end game arena. I call bullshit. You aren't better than us so stop thinking you are.

Admit the mistake. That's the first step. Then stop it. Cut the proven cheaters and learn how to play the game the way it was meant to be played. Its not hard. If you still want to allow cheaters to claim for you, then you're no goddamn better than they are and you should be banned too.

/rant off

Ignorant to what facts? Can you show me one actual Fact against Chronicles? The MSN chatlog can not be proven legit, claim numbers <which he isn't even half of> can't prove anything more then sheer luck, and maybe a coincidence.
Where has a cheater been proven, so far I have seen nothing but accusations followed up with no proof. Show me the actual facts you seem to be holding out on.

Bj isn't saying we are better, it's more like we aer more experienced with wyrms. You can very well be down there killing Vrtra sometime in the near future, but not at this particular time. But We do know how the game was meant to be played, we don't use hacks to kill. None of our Tiamat's are ever claimed by anyone besides Zoolander, Streetz, or Deltoid. Our Vrtra's are legitamately kited and killed by summoners. Don't tell us we can't play right, because we've been doing it all along, you will be as experienced as us one day in the wyrms, but today is not that day. You're shell is good Ana, I give you that, but they aren't as experienced as you lead everyone to believe they are.

Now I'm going out of town for a funeral, see you people later.

 

[Elemmire]

Look who is banned. Me, or you?

people were banned for just using windower so that doesn't necessarily say much.. plus coulda been harassment or something that was repeated.. I dunno what the case was with dowzer, though I do know he, at a time, was suspected of haxorzing (same with Fubio) lol.. it was odd cause seemed fubio claimed many KBs/Behemoths (or so I was told I had a lot of chat log stuff cut out to keep things that I need to see more visible). I was curious too but.. there was no real proof.. I even questioned he claimed to not.. he at least defended himself (and fubio defended himself too). Not defending yourself can be worse than defending yourself. Then again.. that was the only thing people were claiming.. there were no screenshots of them talking about bots (though yes, that's still not proof enough, I agree to that) so there was less "evidence" in their case than in chronicle's case.. lol