You don't have to cheat to be sucessfull at end game!!!

"Success is not measured by the position one has reached in life,
rather by the obstacles overcome while attaining their goals"

One of my favorite quotes, and one I live by.

Also the reason I have no respect for cheaters and gil buyers. Just having stuff does not make you successful. When all is said and done you're still a cheater or a gilbuyer who got stuff by breaking the rules.
 
Dowzer said:
That's why Ugotjacked used Provoke instead of EES on Darters last time.

I'll let Kurei know about Sukai lol Considering he is next in line for Ridill.

I've used EES as a monster popped as well, guess what happened? It didn't work. 2 hour abilities are no different than others. Timers are not reset, there is a cool down timer when trying to claim too early.
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Not gonna get dragged into the arguments here, but just wanted to point out one thing on this. The night Ugot voked a darter he was Thf/War so yeah... you have no argument. Last i checked Thieves dont EES... :)

Edit: Perhaps i was just getting the wrong message from what you were trying to say. Merely pointing out that Ugot didnt use EES that night was because he wasnt even on Ranger, seemed like you were being sarcastic when you said "That's why Ugotjacked used Provoke instead of EES on Darters last time." Text can be very misleading when you cant always detect "tone" in what is being typed :P
 
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So where's Dowzer's screenshot?
 
Mephosis said:
Yes, it makes RDM#1 better than #2. How much? I can't answer that for you. Many people may consider it a luxury piece, whether they're able to obtain it or not and that is up to them but the fact stands that it is better, even if it is marginally. Not to be cliché, but every little bit counts. The effects may not be as noticeable as say the spell Refresh but it certainly adds up.

I agree that RDMs do need to focus their gear, and the Dalmatica is one addition to the many gear sets they require and a particularly useful one at that. It is not necessary to switch out during Refresh or Haste if the RDM has any competence (which for this, we will assume is present) and can be kept on during Cures, etc. I am not saying that Dalmatica is the best RDM body and nor have I ever said this, in fact when I played I sought after W.body over it though this was more due to preference.

Regardless, this is somewhat irrelevant to the topic at hand so please PM me if you want to discuss the workings of such things.
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dang o where o where is shaw and bajaratt see im not the only rdm who thinks that crimson scale mail can go to better use then dalmatica for rdm.
 
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hellstorm said:
dang o where o where is shaw and bajaratt see im not the only rdm who thinks that crimson tabard can go to better use then dalmatica for rdm.
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Sucess, you've managed to find a second person. Still 50>2 tho.
 
hellstorm said:
dang o where o where is shaw and bajaratt see im not the only rdm who thinks that crimson tabard can go to better use then dalmatica for rdm.
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I wasn't one of the people calling you an idiot about your dalmatica nonsense, that was because of all of the other stupid shit you post. He didn't even say why he wanted it, just that he liked it better; it could have been because crimson looks better for all you know.
 
Tagrineth said:
So where's Dowzer's screenshot?
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I think it's best that Bjornar and Ark should be the only ones to see them. Already PM'd.

Vasage1 said:
Not gonna get dragged into the arguments here, but just wanted to point out one thing on this. The night Ugot voked a darter he was Thf/War so yeah... you have no argument. Last i checked Thieves dont EES... :)

Edit: Perhaps i was just getting the wrong message from what you were trying to say. Merely pointing out that Ugot didnt use EES that night was because he wasnt even on Ranger, seemed like you were being sarcastic when you said "That's why Ugotjacked used Provoke instead of EES on Darters last time." Text can be very misleading when you cant always detect "tone" in what is being typed :P
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lol True about text being misleading. Nah, I thought he was on Ranger...my bad.
 
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I'm confused.. duelist tabard or warlock's tabard? both are crimson-ish.. hehe..
 
Bajaratt said:
I wasn't one of the people calling you an idiot about your dalmatica nonsense, that was because of all of the other stupid shit you post. He didn't even say why he wanted it, just that he liked it better; it could have been because crimson looks better for all you know.
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With crimson scale mail you can get rid 2-3 bodys. I almost go as far to say it best rdm body in game, but there no way you can go better then af1 +1. I would however go and say that crimson tabard is the merit rdm best friend. dalmatica is overrated.


dalmatica
50hp>mp
5ma def
resist paralyze
refresh effect

crimson scale mail
40mp
40hp
10int/mnd
breath dmg -10%

you decide
 
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Marajade said:
Sucess, you've managed to find a second person. Still 50>2 tho.
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you better look back in this thread odds much much better.
 
hellstorm said:
With crimson scale mail you can get rid 2-3 bodys. I almost go as far to say it best rdm body in game, but there no way you can go better then af1 +1. I would however go and say that crimson tabard is the merit rdm best friend. dalmatica is overrated.


dalmatica
50hp>mp
5ma def
resist paralyze

crimson scale mail
40mp
40hp
10int/mnd
breath dmg -10%

you decide
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You forgot one of the most important things on Dalmatica... Refresh. Good game.
 
Eulore said:
You forgot one of the most important things on Dalmatica... Refresh. Good game.
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The mind of him when he, probably, purposly left off Refresh, "Oh shit, how do I back pettle this one?"
 
It depends. Personally I think Dalmatica > Crimson Scalemail. The +10MND/INT can be obtainable from Errant's body. Dalmatica gives more MP then Crimson body. Dalmatica is also the only body piece that gives auto refresh for RDMes (except for vermillion cloak, but then you can't equip a head piece). The *ONLY* thing Crimson body gives that's can't be swapped for something similar or better, is +40 HP.

When you argue about something, your main argument shouldn't be that a certain body piece can get rid of 2-3 other bodies. You want to be the best in every situation, and thus, you need t oconsider the options available to you.

Dalmatica gives something unique, something no other body piece in the game can give RDM without sacrificing another slot, and that is auto refresh. Almost everything Crimson Body gives can be obtained through other pieces of armour. Thus, Dalmatica > Crimson.

edit: I guess its the same as with Jet Seraweels. Personally, I think they're completely and utterly useless. Jet Seraweels cost more then Mahatma Slops, but give 1 less MND and INT. So I ask you again; why?! its completely useless =/
 
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hellstorm:

its called... dalmatica for everything except enfeebling. :) i dont understand why this concept is so hard to get through your head that you can actually macro enfeebling gear for those casts.


Uzor said:
edit: I guess its the same as with Jet Seraweels. Personally, I think they're completely and utterly useless. Jet Seraweels cost more then Mahatma Slops, but give 1 less MND and INT. So I ask you again; why?! its completely useless =/
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they give MP and dont have all the minus stats.. so i guess situatually they'd be good.
 
hellstorm said:
With crimson scale mail you can get rid 2-3 bodys. I almost go as far to say it best rdm body in game, but there no way you can go better then af1 +1. I would however go and say that crimson tabard is the merit rdm best friend. dalmatica is overrated.


dalmatica
50hp>mp
5ma def
resist paralyze

crimson scale mail
40mp
40hp
10int/mnd
breath dmg -10%

you decide
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Since you're bringing me into this discussion:

What does crimson body replace other than errant, which I'd think is even better given it's -3 enmity and +5 hmp(not that rdm rest often but when you do it's great). The +hp wouldn't be a big deal since you get +40 mp along with it, so it would have the same effect on your hp/mp ratio as armor which boosts neither; and if hp is a factor so you don't die then you play with shitty tanks. And as other people have already said, you'd macro in your +mnd/int body for enfeebles(assuming you don't need AF body for resists) and then right back to dalmatica for exp parties; for hnm you'd be macroing in the AF body for the +skill, so you'd still be getting more use out of dalmatica than crimson body in terms of time you're wearing it and the amount of spells you're casting with it on.

Situationally it's better, namely when you're casting an enfeeble spell, but since rdm does more than cast 5 spells a fight saying it's the best body piece because of 10 seconds each fight is stupid. On top of that, the only benefit to those enfeebles can be found on another body piece, so it's not even uniquely the best piece either.
 
I have Crimson Mail and wouldn't think of getting rid of my Errant Body just because I have it. Bajaratt nailed it when they pointed out the stats of -3 emnity and hmp. On a bigger fight having the +10 int and +10 mnd isn't going to do you much good if your pulling hate due to lack of -emnity.
 
neophytal said:
they give MP and dont have all the minus stats.. so i guess situatually they'd be good.
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Yeah, but if you wear Jet Seraweels instead of Mahatma Slops as a mage because it doesn't have the - stats, you need to quit the job, as you shouldn't be meleeing anyway... so the -stats doesn't affect you negatively, lol. And +15 MP is rather useless the second you've cast even Cure II, since you won't be sitting on max MP anymore.
 
What do Jet Seraweels look like? I can't imagine they'd be able to look worse than errant/mahatma legs(ugliest set ever), so maybe they decided to get them for aesthetic reasons.
 
The *only* thing crimson body and jet saraweel are good for is firing lolsavageblade.

Dalmatica is garbage. Only brds have any reason to wear that thing. If you're a rdm that "switches when you enfeeble" or when you cast *anything* at all, well, that autorefresh will maybe get you 5mp per minute. Yay.
 
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