You don't have to cheat to be sucessfull at end game!!!

hellstorm said:
agian Convert ony need mp for 10 min then convert repeat

Yes, but with Auto Refresh you'll have more MP to spend during those 10 min. Thus allowing you to throw out extra spells. Thus speeding up your exp/hr, which is a RDM's job in merit parties.
 
metachronism said:
Oh sure, I have the chapeau too. And I'm not saying autorefresh hurts or anything. But when you consider the other body parts available for rdm, dalmatica just doesn't have a very high utility value. There's no reason to have it on when you are casting, and "in between casting" for a rdm is pretty scarce (at least it is for me. dunno about you). You're not going to get the 20mp/min that people claim, unless they are gimping their spells by keeping dalmatica on for whatever reason. Gear to have on while moving? OK, I guess you have a genuine use there.

Dalmatica is the best body for Refreshing,
It's the best for Hasting,
It's the best for backup curing,
It's the best body for status cures,
and it's the best when you're in motion and not casting.

Maybe we have different types of shells, but in my case these are the things I'm doing 75%of my time...
 
observation from dalmatica speak:

all the experienced RDMs say it is pretty great.

all the no-name RDMs say its not.


welp, guess that solves that.

next topic please.
 
metachronism said:
Oh sure, I have the chapeau too. And I'm not saying autorefresh hurts or anything. But when you consider the other body parts available for rdm, dalmatica just doesn't have a very high utility value. There's no reason to have it on when you are casting, and "in between casting" for a rdm is pretty scarce (at least it is for me. dunno about you). You're not going to get the 20mp/min that people claim, unless they are gimping their spells by keeping dalmatica on for whatever reason. Gear to have on while moving? OK, I guess you have a genuine use there.

Huh? Need autorefresh for zipacna? A friend of mine solos zipacna like twice a week. He doesn't have any autorefresh gear. Again, if yo have to rely on autorefresh, you have problems.

I don’t quite understand this mentality of only using items when you need them. It is not about relying on the Refresh effect; it’s about being at the top of your game.

Sure, you may not need the extra MP in many cases and you have the option of getting a large amount back every 10 minutes with Convert. However it is your job to be prepared for unexpected situations, and when your Convert is still on cooldown the extra MP does come in useful. If nothing happens, great; you can use the extra MP regardless in other areas where perhaps you were being more conservative, it might save someone else some of their MP.

And please, there is plenty of reason to keep Dalmatica on while casting. Take a look at Courtney’s post; these are the spells that you’re likely to be casting most of the time. Of course if your Refresh is being gimped I suggest wearing more MND gear…. wait.

hellstorm said:
af1+1 and yigit has 5hmp if you need it so badly not like you do. Come on -3 emn you telling me you not pulling hate because of -3 enm. You cant beat this armor. You have hp and mp 2 stats that are always nice to have. What good does dalmatica do? Rdm have "CONVERT" we switch are hp>mp every 10min (8min 20sec if merited) which pretty much make having 1tic refresh "almost" useless. I would still want dalmatica for 1 reason from moving to 1 place to anouther. For example I cast sneak on myself then put dalmatica on to regain back that little mp lost or incases where in dynamis where waiting for mega boss pull and can't rest because might argo something.

dalmatica you lose 50hp if you a hume or mithra that will most likely put you below 1000hp. You gain what 10mp? Can't even cast cure 2 with that.

I agree jet seraweel are overprice for there stats. On side not if you so worryied about -enm jet seraweel can make up what you are missing from errant body.

The same applies here, it’s not about NEEDING it badly, it’s about the difference albeit small that it makes. As another poster mentioned, I’m pretty sure those melees don’t NEED that extra few STR, but it certainly helps. W.body doesn’t really get rid of any pieces that you needed before except perhaps Errant/Mahatma, which is certainly not 2-3 body pieces as you previously mentioned. Oh, and just for the record, I personally feel that Dalmatica provides more utility than Crimson Scale Mail, especially for non-Tarus. My preference lies mainly in the awesomeness of Crimson Scale Mail to enhance 'lolsavageblade', as observed by metachronism.





I realize a lot of these points aren’t terribly important while meriting (though, I’m sure most RDMs would be able to find uses for the additional MP) and honestly I couldn't care less; my posts are regarding end-game, and meriting equates to end-game only for those who aren’t able to experience end-game content, as poor and ill-conceived as it may be.
 
neophytal said:
observation from dalmatica speak:

all the experienced RDMs say it is pretty great.

all the no-name RDMs say its not.


welp, guess that solves that.

next topic please.
When has this ever infuluenced a topic?
 
neophytal said:
observation from dalmatica speak:

all the experienced RDMs say it is pretty great.

all the no-name RDMs say its not.


welp, guess that solves that.

next topic please.

Not everyone is an attention whore who wants to be applauded for the miniscule deeds you might "accomplish" in this game that no one else cares about. But I guess I'm talking to the wrong crowd, this being QCDN.

I'm sorry but I think over 90% the server population won't know who the hell the posters here are, including you.

If you lack the capabilities to analyze the items, and you assert your validity out of the "I'm right cuz I'm famous" (non)argument, I hope you realize that people like that are the ones who stigmatize gamers as the "losers in real life."

But, if this is the way for you to wallow in the delusion self-importance and the illusion of grandeur that you can't get elsewhere, that's fine though. :/
 
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Impressive, he managed to type something about a foreigners opinion without insulting the NA community.
 
Impressive, you have the vitality of a cockroach in a shitty apartment kitchen. Just can't seem to get rid of you and your content-less PC+1 posts.
 
metachronism said:
Impressive, you have the vitality of a cockroach in a shitty apartment kitchen. Just can't seem to get rid of you and your content-less PC+1 posts.

Not to play devil's advocate, but what the fuck content did that give? Do you think before you type shit down? Or do you just like having the last word on things? I'm betting on the latter.
 
metachronism said:
Not everyone is an attention whore who wants to be applauded for the miniscule deeds you might "accomplish" in this game that no one else cares about. But I guess I'm talking to the wrong crowd, this being QCDN.

I'm sorry but I think over 90% the server population won't know who the hell the posters here are, including you.

If you lack the capabilities to analyze the items, and you assert your validity out of the "I'm right cuz I'm famous" (non)argument, I hope you realize that people like that are the ones who stigmatize gamers as the "losers in real life."

But, if this is the way for you to wallow in the delusion self-importance and the illusion of grandeur that you can't get elsewhere, that's fine though. :/
This has nothing to do with what Neophytal said, other than to just downplay any accomplishments he's made. What he said is that of the rdm's who have both, all of them say dalmatica is better; and that the only ones saying otherwise don't have either or both of them. You're saying that you're correct because you can read the stats, but don't have any firsthand experience with the items so you're really just guessing. The thread is basically divided into people who have firsthand experience and people who made a judgment based on reading the stats of the armor off a website; firsthand experience will always win. Yeah, it sounds kinda stuck-up the way he said it, but it's still a valid point: people who don't know themselves are telling the people who do know which is better because they read the descriptions. It's not famous vs. un-famous, it's people who have the gear and people who don't.

They don't "lack the capability to analyze the items," they have already shown why dalmatica is more useful and only the people who formed an opinion without any real backing are ignoring this. Yeah, you might not get 20 mp per minute, but unless you can't land enfeebles worth a damn, you're going to get most of that 20 mp.
 
I'd hardly call Meta no-name, he just tries to avoid QCDN.
 
metachronism said:
Not everyone is an attention whore who wants to be applauded for the miniscule deeds you might "accomplish" in this game that no one else cares about. But I guess I'm talking to the wrong crowd, this being QCDN.

I'm sorry but I think over 90% the server population won't know who the hell the posters here are, including you.

miniscule deeds.. i see.. so what have you done thats so great? please enlighten me.. lol because im sure ive done it, and done more.

90% of server population.. well, if you want to throw numbers out, sure, fine. but, i can tell you that since june that my blog has 10,000 hits and that daily i have people wave / smile / etc that i have no idea, who they are. but, its not about that. i play the game to have fun, and blog for fun, and let people see what real endgame has to offer at a real level.

metachronism said:
If you lack the capabilities to analyze the items, and you assert your validity out of the "I'm right cuz I'm famous" (non)argument, I hope you realize that people like that are the ones who stigmatize gamers as the "losers in real life."

But, if this is the way for you to wallow in the delusion self-importance and the illusion of grandeur that you can't get elsewhere, that's fine though. :/

haha, well baja already said it, so ill let you read that. but the thread really is divided with people who know more about dalmatica (because they have it, or have several in their linkshell and know how it works), or the people who just try to look at the stats and dont have firsthand experience with it.

and coincidentally enough, most people arguing that its not worth it, are people that probably wont ever have one.

Bajaratt said:
This has nothing to do with what Neophytal said, other than to just downplay any accomplishments he's made. What he said is that of the rdm's who have both, all of them say dalmatica is better; and that the only ones saying otherwise don't have either or both of them. You're saying that you're correct because you can read the stats, but don't have any firsthand experience with the items so you're really just guessing. The thread is basically divided into people who have firsthand experience and people who made a judgment based on reading the stats of the armor off a website; firsthand experience will always win. Yeah, it sounds kinda stuck-up the way he said it, but it's still a valid point: people who don't know themselves are telling the people who do know which is better because they read the descriptions. It's not famous vs. un-famous, it's people who have the gear and people who don't.

They don't "lack the capability to analyze the items," they have already shown why dalmatica is more useful and only the people who formed an opinion without any real backing are ignoring this. Yeah, you might not get 20 mp per minute, but unless you can't land enfeebles worth a damn, you're going to get most of that 20 mp.

completely agree.....

Tagrineth said:
I'd hardly call Meta no-name, he just tries to avoid QCDN.

its probably for the better because hes just making himself look uninformed in this thread.
 
Courtney said:
Dalmatica is the best body for Refreshing,
It's the best for Hasting,
It's the best for backup curing,
It's the best body for status cures,
and it's the best when you're in motion and not casting.

Maybe we have different types of shells, but in my case these are the things I'm doing 75%of my time...

neophytal said:
observation from dalmatica speak:

all the experienced RDMs say it is pretty great.

all the no-name RDMs say its not.


welp, guess that solves that.

next topic please.

QFT (random letters to make post long enough)
 
Idk, I wouldn't call myself no name. I may be on BLM 90% of the time, but I'm a damn good RDM and I wouldn't wear a Dalmatica over what I have.
 
metachronism said:
Impressive, you have the vitality of a cockroach in a shitty apartment kitchen. Just can't seem to get rid of you and your content-less PC+1 posts.

Woah-ho. Must've struck a truth-fearing nerve.
 
Tagrineth said:
I'd hardly call Meta no-name, he just tries to avoid QCDN.

Quoted for truth, and because I do the same XD

Legomyeggo, if he wanted to avoid NA, he wouldn't be co-leader of a Dynamis LS that everyone (except for a few people) are NA/EU.

From my opinion, Damaltica is pretty much worthless, theres better pieces for all jobs that can use it.

Its a piece to show off, and thats about it.
 
Sephectja said:
Quoted for truth, and because I do the same XD

Legomyeggo, if he wanted to avoid NA, he wouldn't be co-leader of a Dynamis LS that everyone (except for a few people) are NA/EU.

From my opinion, Damaltica is pretty much worthless, theres better pieces for all jobs that can use it.

Its a piece to show off, and thats about it.

Actually... its only useless to WHM SMN BLM, since they have better body pieces with refresh.

It is usefull to RDM. Dunno about BRD as I haven't lvled BRD.
 
neophytal said:
miniscule deeds.. i see.. so what have you done thats so great? please enlighten me.. lol because im sure ive done it, and done more.

90% of server population.. well, if you want to throw numbers out, sure, fine. but, i can tell you that since june that my blog has 10,000 hits and that daily i have people wave / smile / etc that i have no idea, who they are. but, its not about that. i play the game to have fun, and blog for fun, and let people see what real endgame has to offer at a real level.

That is exactly the attitude of yours I'm mocking. I'm saying whatever I've done and whatever *you* have done is not something for public display and recognition, and if you think otherwise, you fit the "loser in real life" archetype. Yes, being proud of what you've done in the game is fine. Enjoying the game *personally* is exactly the reason why anyone would play it. I won't even laugh at you for having a blog about your in-game activities. Who am I to criticize how you derive enjoyment out of the game?

But flaunting that and trying to build some sort of credibility out of that is laughable.

haha, well baja already said it, so ill let you read that. but the thread really is divided with people who know more about dalmatica (because they have it, or have several in their linkshell and know how it works), or the people who just try to look at the stats and dont have firsthand experience with it.

Yes, there are a whole bunch of people who can't figure out how things pan out because they're well... I won't go there. Is my autorefresh gear somehow different from yours? I guess the "people who really know" develop an attachment their items to somehow try to convince themselves that the effort they put in was actually worth it. I see enough idiots who think koenig is the best thing to go around wearing for everything too. Don't get me started on how people react when I tell them their dear osode isn't the thing to wear for everything, either.

and coincidentally enough, most people arguing that its not worth it, are people that probably wont ever have one.



completely agree.....



its probably for the better because hes just making himself look uninformed in this thread.

Of course, why would you expend effort on getting something you think is worthless? Then again, I always forget there are people who *need* ways to use up time out there. And no, you don't need to be so defensive of the raison d'etre of you your HNMLS. If you think dalmatica is the gift of god, well, I wish you luck in toiling countless hours to get it because it's probably worth it for you. Or, if you're just trying to rationalize the time you put in in hindsight, well, here's a pat on your back. Good job. It's great. It has autorefresh. It also makes you look like a walking christmas tree. All is good with the world.

There's absolutly no need to wield your mighty power as "the author of the great blog that gets 10k hits, and yet most of the server still doesn't know about it."

Why are there so many megalomaniacs here? I sure hope this game isn't a magnet for sociopaths.
 
metachronism said:
That is exactly the attitude of yours I'm mocking. I'm saying whatever I've done and whatever *you* have done is not something for public display and recognition, and if you think otherwise, you fit the "loser in real life" archetype. Yes, being proud of what you've done in the game is fine. Enjoying the game *personally* is exactly the reason why anyone would play it. I won't even laugh at you for having a blog about your in-game activities. Who am I to criticize how you derive enjoyment out of the game?

But flaunting that and trying to build some sort of credibility out of that is laughable.

thats actually quite false. if ive done alot more fights than you have, maybe i have seen situations and seen places where it is very beneficial (although courtney pointed out that its most of the time anyways).. and you just want to ignore that. so, yeah, thats cool... more experience definitely doesnt build credibility ... riiiight(where did you learn to think that way? lol).

metachronism said:
Yes, there are a whole bunch of people who can't figure out how things pan out because they're well... I won't go there. Is my autorefresh gear somehow different from yours? I guess the "people who really know" develop an attachment their items to somehow try to convince themselves that the effort they put in was actually worth it. I see enough idiots who think koenig is the best thing to go around wearing for everything too. Don't get me started on how people react when I tell them their dear osode isn't the thing to wear for everything, either.

dalmatica is same as osode. its situational. most people macro osodes for ws... and in some cases use for tp. thus coming back to the word... macros.. once again......... lol


the rest of the post im not really going to touch because its just off subject.
 
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