Stouter said:
I'm sorry, I do so believe, as Wakmidget said, there are
other camps. I may have never been there on my own character, but I do know the area fairly well (mainly from watching Artem play). If you can't read stuff and try to base your argument on the fact that I've never personally been there, keep in mind that regardless of level,
you can change where you camp as a party leader, whether it be in the same zone or not.
An EXP party is an EXP party no matter how you look at it. When you head out to the Boyahda Tree to fight Robber Crabs, thinking nobody is there, and then you see a group of people skilling up weapons, do you stay there? If you say yes, you're fucking retarded - end of story. "No guys, let's stay and camp Argus" is basically what Zanshin did to Willian. Yeah, sure, you can still EXP; I gain EXP skilling up my weapons.
Saying that I don't know what an NM's drops are to make your argument look better is just stupid. Willian didn't go to camp an NM but to get EXP, and that concept is something that exists throughout all levels and zones. There are mutliple places to get EXP at each level. If you're too stupid to bring your own linkshell members (no, 5/6 of your party being in your linkshell is
NOT your linkshell), then shut up and just admit to your mistake(s). Obviously Willian is not a part of your linkshell, and he obviously wanted to do something other than camp an NM with 5 random people, some who seem like total douchebags. Blazeoffury is honestly the only person in the party I have associated with outside of Willian (though, I doubt he remembers me much), and I know he, as a character, isn't a bad person and is actually kind of a nice guy. Like I said in one of my other posts: there was probably some miscommunication, and several of you are trying to make Willian out to be a bad person when all he wanted to do was join an EXP party. Obviously you didn't read that far into my post because me talking about never fighting Ulli made my whole point invalid (hint: It doesn't).
Oh, hang on, let me make one of your posts for you:
"You've never fought Ulli so your post doesn't count. lolol" Yeah, grow up. If you can't read my whole post and you want to just disregard it all based on the fact that you can't read paragraphs, then you can just keep to your happy little self. Sorry, but skimming a post and nitpicking details out of context is pretty retarded and just further makes anyone who does it look like an idiot. You guys could've been in Valkurm Dunes near the Valkurm Emperor spawn for all I care - it's the same concept.
And one more thing: the situation has jumped from "A JP Party was already there but they weren't there when a LS mate told us" to "A JP Party started camping on top of us after we got there" in the middle of the topic. Keep to one story, it honestly isn't making any of your posts make any sense and only furthers an outsider's reason to believe you guys are lying just because you have a lot on the line.
Blazeoffury said:
When we got there It was empty The fact that a Japanese LS moved in on top of us is beyond our control.
Elyssa said:
They get to Ulli and there is a JP linkshell up there killing everything.
So which is it? Honestly, I believe Blazeoffury, I've known him to be an honest person.
No wonder there is so much drama in endgame. Half of you can't even tell the same story even if it happened to each person telling it. Sure, there are always different perspectives to each story, but major details like that should
always be the same throughout each story. Somebody is lying. I, along with others in this discussion, believe that it may have just been a comunication problem (as said in my second post).
Antor said:
Perhaps there was some miscommunication between the party leader and Willian through /tells (someone zoned and it didn't quite go all the way through or something - that does happen), but it's a bit silly to expect Willian to actually be willing to participate in such an activity when it's more than likely that he was LFG to get EXP.
That's the main point of my post, but obviously I cannot have an opinion because I've never personally camped Ulli. Where do you guys get your logic from? You don't have to participate in an activity to have an opinion on it.