Zanshin

- .- so, basically, if anyone gets to pt with you guys again, you will definitly try and take them to sky to camp ulli? Or am i getting that wrong?
 
Ok guys you people are blowing this way out of porportion. Any party made up of predominantly sky linkshell members <be it the same or different> will not pass up a chance at an empty ulli camp. When we got there It was empty The fact that a Japanese LS moved in on top of us is beyond our control.

And Willian, I have apologized to you numerous times ingame, I don't bring stuff to the Flame board, and I usually don't resolve shit already brought to the FB. But I told you I was sorry before FB, during the pt when that LS showed up, when Odhinn mistakenly thought you said you were leaving, when you left, the next day, so don't say an apology isn't going to happen, it already has. I have nothing against you Willian, I'm not judging either side, I give my story and an overall perception of the point of view.

I'm sorry this shit happened take it from me no harm to you was intended. You and Tuku are my friends, and I hope you will remain my friends. Just because someone is a member of a LS doesnt make them the LS, and you of all Willian should know that, because it's not liek you to characterize ppl at all.
 
Teppo we only went to that camp because It was empty. Usually that place is never empty unless Ullikummi just died, so we thought we could get some good xp there, and yes I wanted to fight giants, I wanted some raxa because I'm trying to get a friend a signed Demon's cloak.

You all want to point fingers and play the blame game, point it at me, I'll take the blame.. I really don't care.
 
I have nothing against you as a person, Blaze. You and Madd were actually quite polite to me, through the whole thing, but neither of you acted. It was all "oh, sorry we're screwing with you, but that's how it goes." If you were so sorry, why didn't you speak up in-party? You afraid Odhinn will kick you out, too? Don't take shit from him, seriously, he's just a little turd who cheats his way to big money items.

If I were you, I'd leave the shell and get a better one. In my opinion, you are above their level.

Also, I don't care where we were camping. Camping at Ulli? Fine with me. Getting to Ulli, finding 20+ people already there killing everything, then staying? Not fine with me.
 
Stouter said:
Learn to read yourself.

I'm sorry, I do so believe, as Wakmidget said, there are other camps. I may have never been there on my own character, but I do know the area fairly well (mainly from watching Artem play). If you can't read stuff and try to base your argument on the fact that I've never personally been there, keep in mind that regardless of level, you can change where you camp as a party leader, whether it be in the same zone or not.

An EXP party is an EXP party no matter how you look at it. When you head out to the Boyahda Tree to fight Robber Crabs, thinking nobody is there, and then you see a group of people skilling up weapons, do you stay there? If you say yes, you're fucking retarded - end of story. "No guys, let's stay and camp Argus" is basically what Zanshin did to Willian. Yeah, sure, you can still EXP; I gain EXP skilling up my weapons.

Saying that I don't know what an NM's drops are to make your argument look better is just stupid. Willian didn't go to camp an NM but to get EXP, and that concept is something that exists throughout all levels and zones. There are mutliple places to get EXP at each level. If you're too stupid to bring your own linkshell members (no, 5/6 of your party being in your linkshell is NOT your linkshell), then shut up and just admit to your mistake(s). Obviously Willian is not a part of your linkshell, and he obviously wanted to do something other than camp an NM with 5 random people, some who seem like total douchebags. Blazeoffury is honestly the only person in the party I have associated with outside of Willian (though, I doubt he remembers me much), and I know he, as a character, isn't a bad person and is actually kind of a nice guy. Like I said in one of my other posts: there was probably some miscommunication, and several of you are trying to make Willian out to be a bad person when all he wanted to do was join an EXP party. Obviously you didn't read that far into my post because me talking about never fighting Ulli made my whole point invalid (hint: It doesn't).

Oh, hang on, let me make one of your posts for you:

"You've never fought Ulli so your post doesn't count. lolol" Yeah, grow up. If you can't read my whole post and you want to just disregard it all based on the fact that you can't read paragraphs, then you can just keep to your happy little self. Sorry, but skimming a post and nitpicking details out of context is pretty retarded and just further makes anyone who does it look like an idiot. You guys could've been in Valkurm Dunes near the Valkurm Emperor spawn for all I care - it's the same concept.

And one more thing: the situation has jumped from "A JP Party was already there but they weren't there when a LS mate told us" to "A JP Party started camping on top of us after we got there" in the middle of the topic. Keep to one story, it honestly isn't making any of your posts make any sense and only furthers an outsider's reason to believe you guys are lying just because you have a lot on the line.

Blazeoffury said:
When we got there It was empty The fact that a Japanese LS moved in on top of us is beyond our control.

Elyssa said:
They get to Ulli and there is a JP linkshell up there killing everything.

So which is it? Honestly, I believe Blazeoffury, I've known him to be an honest person.

No wonder there is so much drama in endgame. Half of you can't even tell the same story even if it happened to each person telling it. Sure, there are always different perspectives to each story, but major details like that should always be the same throughout each story. Somebody is lying. I, along with others in this discussion, believe that it may have just been a comunication problem (as said in my second post).

Antor said:
Perhaps there was some miscommunication between the party leader and Willian through /tells (someone zoned and it didn't quite go all the way through or something - that does happen), but it's a bit silly to expect Willian to actually be willing to participate in such an activity when it's more than likely that he was LFG to get EXP.

That's the main point of my post, but obviously I cannot have an opinion because I've never personally camped Ulli. Where do you guys get your logic from? You don't have to participate in an activity to have an opinion on it.
 
Nugotugo said:
Hmmm. according to your sig you only have 3 characters. full standard xp pt is 6. doesn't IGE have any more characters for sale??

Why do people insist on talking about things they have no knowledge of?



Antor said:
me talking about never fighting Ulli made my whole point invalid

Antor, this is not a personal flame against you, but having never been up there yourself does invalidate some of your observations. Not your whole point, but definitely some of your reasoning is flawed by not being fully informed as to the nature of the Ulli camp.
 
Wow this really fucks up Zanshin's credibility... Nice, another ls that deserves no respect.
 
So, Odhinn... gonna harass me in-game with tells, but won't even post here? Fucking coward, grow a pair.
 
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gir said:
Antor, this is not a personal flame against you, but having never been up there yourself does invalidate some of your observations. Not your whole point, but definitely some of your reasoning is flawed by not being fully informed as to the nature of the Ulli camp.

Did you miss the part where I said I've seen Artem EXP there? He literally lives three minutes from my house.
 
Willian said:
So, Odhinn... gonna harass me in-game with tells, but won't even post here? Fucking coward, grow a pair.

Ahh dont worry about it. Odhinn is a cock sucking piece of shit anyway. Were I you, I wouldnt waste anymore time on the matter. Everyone whos read this has developed their opinions about the LS in question and the participants in the party.

But yea. Odhinn likes to lick dog balls. He's an MPK'ing anal spelunker. Best to distance yourself as far from him as possible. Toss him a /slap if you see him in passing ^_^.
 
Eulore said:
You can exp while camping ulli noob.

wish people wouldn't exp while camping ulli.. leave that for actual exp parties that want to exp. That also brings up that exp parties should leave ulli the fuck alone if there's a group up there camping it and the exp party went up to get exp.. but then again.. damn non-ideal world.
 
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Antor said:
Your camera fails, Willian. ._.

That post here made me laugh after seeing his pic~
 
Willian said:

To save people the trouble of squinting as much as I did, it reads:

Odhinn>> dude i NEEEEED you. my LS cant kill Ulli without you ^^; /bow /kneel
>>Odhinn: Why, to claim? Your bot broke? ; ;
Odhinn>> ya ; ;
>>Odhinn: Or is it the same shitty one I outclaimed repeatedly @ Deggi?
Odhinn>> thats the one! ^^
 
You can ask Willian yourself, I was there 20 minutes before the rest of the party even made it to sky. I was there before any parties were there. And yes we were planning on just xp'ing. Here lately 90% of the time ulli camp is empty means that Ulli just died, so we figured we would have at the very least 2-3 hours of freedom. I am really getting sick of this "O well people shouldn't xp there if a group is camping ulli." How many times do i have to say WHEN I SHOWED UP TO THE CAMP IT WAS COMPLETELY EMPTY EXCEPT FOR ONE SMALL TARU BLM. So we figure hey,empty camp, maybe get lucky and get some raxa, and we get xp. After we get through one kill Odhinn comes in to say "Fuck, there's an alliance out here now ; ;"

We were there first, why should we leave. We were after xp, why else would a whm with barely 700HP be claimign non PH golems at that camp. It doesn't make any since.

Antor yes I remember you, I thought you quit, I havent seen you in forever.
 
Ok, long story short:

Ulli's a bish and always starts flames.

Fucking Ulli, i hate you for being the most annoying pop item dropper in the world.

So yeah, let's blame this on Ulli and end the drama. (Reeeeeeeeeeeeally don't see this happenin...)
 
Blazeoffury said:
Antor yes I remember you, I thought you quit, I havent seen you in forever.

I can answer this one :P

he works a lot and has school (though that's only in the morning) so he's not on much.
 
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