Alcohol

[Zaltana]

Alcohol doesn't make retards, retards make retards. Just because alot of people choose to use something irresponsibly doesn't mean it's that things fault, it's the idiots behind it. Don't be angry at alcohol, be angry at the idiots.

true as this statement is do you not think its compounded by the fact that they drink?

 

[Stouter]

On average, how often do you consume alcohol?
Most days, I'll grab a 32oz Dr Pepper after work and put about 5oz of Rum into it when I get home.

How many units would you say it takes for you to start feeling the effects of alcohol in your body?
It varies by how fast I drink it, I could get drunk on a few quick shots, or drink 24 beers on a long night and still be moderately sober.

When was your first taste of alcohol?
I had a sip of my dad's beer when I was about 10, it tasted horrible.

Have you ever driven whilst over the legal limit of alcohol within your system?
Maybe close to or over the legal limit, but still capable of passing a field sobriety test.

How likely would it be for you to try drive home after consuming just over the legal amount, if you thought you were up to doing it?
1 - I rarely drink when I'm not within stumbling distance of where I'm gonna sleep, unless I have a DD.

What advantages do you feel you receive after drinking alcohol? Do you think there are any negative sides to the intoxicated you?
It relaxes me. There's not any major negatives, I rarely drink past a good buzz, and I'm a calm drunk.

At what age do you consider it acceptable to be able to consume alcohol?
It varies by person. Some people shouldn't be allowed to drink at all, others can handle it as a teenager.

Without alcohol, would a night out be worse than if you had consumed alcohol?
Depends on the night and who I'm with. If I'm out with my alcoholic buddies I would definitely rather have some booze. If I'm out on a date I would rather stay sober, or maybe have a drink or two to relax me.

If you're at a party, and there isn't enough alcohol, would you be tempted to go out and get more, or stay and make do with what you have?
Again it depends on the party. If I'm enjoying myself without the booze I don't care if we run out. If I'm just drinking with my friends I would probably make a B double-E double-R U N.

 

[Stouter]

true as this statement is do you not think its compounded by the fact that they drink?

If you're an asshole when you're drunk, it's because you're an asshole, not because you're drunk. It takes away your inhibitions and releases who you really are, it doesn't change who you are.

 

[Zaltana]

If you're an asshole when you're drunk, it's because you're an asshole, not because you're drunk. It takes away your inhibitions and releases who you really are, it doesn't change who you are.

i know. like i said, drinking makes it worse.

 

[Sanoske]

On average, how often do you consume alcohol?
When at home, and there is decent beer, I'll probably have 1 beer after dinner, just to chill out. If it's a vacation and friends are home, I'll drink much more often(depending on the funds we have)

How many units would you say it takes for you to start feeling the effects of alcohol in your body?
Obviously depends on speed of drinking, but usually about 8 beers if I've been drinking constantly will get me a buzz. 10+ beers and some shots will start getting me pretty good.

When was your first taste of alcohol?
I was like 5, thought it was a glass of root beer, turns out it was my dad's mug o beer. Was horribly disgusting at the time.

Have you ever driven whilst over the legal limit of alcohol within your system?
I'm very very against driving under any amount of influence over like 2 beers, but I've done it once. Will never do it again.

How likely would it be for you to try drive home after consuming just over the legal amount, if you thought you were up to doing it?
3

What advantages do you feel you receive after drinking alcohol? Do you think there are any negative sides to the intoxicated you?
Advantages - Often will do many stupid things, most of them involving women.
Disadvantages - Often will do many stupid things, most of them involving women.
(Who's with me?!?!)
As far as negatives, I'm a really relaxed, silly person normally... so that's just gets amplified when I'm drunk. I'm probably the happiest drunk you will ever meet.

At what age do you consider it acceptable to be able to consume alcohol?
18+ in this society.

Without alcohol, would a night out be worse than if you had consumed alcohol?
Depends on the events planned.

If you're at a party, and there isn't enough alcohol, would you be tempted to go out and get more, or stay and make do with what you have?
If the mood is right for the sauce, I would definitely make a supplies run.

 

[Excalibur]

true as this statement is do you not think its compounded by the fact that they drink?

Yes, alcohol can compound stupidity, but I also feel it's used an excuse to be stupid far too often. Out of all the substances I've done I've never been so stupid that I would do something regretable. No matter what I'm on, I'm always aware that snakes are not friendly, that flying is impossible, and that condoms should be worn during sex.

 

[Mattaru]

i know. like i said, drinking makes it worse.

Then why is my dancing so good?

 

[Tagrineth]

Alcohol doesn't make retards, retards make retards. Just because alot of people choose to use something irresponsibly doesn't mean it's that things fault, it's the idiots behind it. Don't be angry at alcohol, be angry at the idiots.

I hate the fact that it's so ubiquitous and so commonly used. It's totally normal in our society today to get piss drunk at least once a fucking week...

and yet, you touch one blunt and you get a night in a holding cell and/or a huge fine. What the fuck.

Alcohol should NOT be anywhere near as commonplace and socially normal/acceptable as it is.

If you're an asshole when you're drunk, it's because you're an asshole, not because you're drunk. It takes away your inhibitions and releases who you really are, it doesn't change who you are.

If a person is an asshole when they're drunk, but NOT an asshole when they are sober

I BLAME THE FUCKING ALCOHOL BECAUSE WITHOUT IT THEY'RE FINE.

How could you not?

 

[Tim Wakefield]

What advantages do you feel you receive after drinking alcohol? Do you think there are any negative sides to the intoxicated you?
Advantages - Often will do many stupid things, most of them involving women.
Disadvantages - Often will do many stupid things, most of them involving women.
(Who's with me?!?!)

El Oh El

 

[Excalibur]

I hate the fact that it's so ubiquitous and so commonly used. It's totally normal in our society today to get piss drunk at least once a fucking week...

and yet, you touch one blunt and you get a night in a holding cell and/or a huge fine. What the fuck.

Alcohol should NOT be anywhere near as commonplace and socially normal/acceptable as it is.

I'll agree alcohol is far worse than pot, but I'm in favor of most drugs being socially acceptable, so I can't I'd want that fate for alcohol.

If a person is an asshole when they're drunk, but NOT an asshole when they are sober

I BLAME THE FUCKING ALCOHOL BECAUSE WITHOUT IT THEY'RE FINE.

How could you not?

I've only ever known two mean drunks, and they were mean sober. The alcohol was just an amplification of their assholeishness. In turn, I've known nice people that were even nicer/happier/friendlier on booze. So yeah, I'd say alcohol just amplifies your personality(in most cases).

 

[Ryuhei]

On average, how often do you consume alcohol?

Almost every weekend.

How many units would you say it takes for you to start feeling the effects of alcohol in your body? (By this I mean the effects of dutch courage, slurred words, blurry vision, no longer feel the effects of cold and other examples of general tipsiness. Any of the latter. However the onset of which is only minor.)

Answers should be given in alcohol units (european countries mainly?) or in the form of a specific amount of a certain alcohol (6 bottles of beer, 4 vodka shots, 4 mixed spirits & juice etc.)

I guess about 4 shots of vodka or rum gets me buzzed, if I'm quick about them. Can't really say in beers, becuase I rarely start with it. I'd say about 6 or 7, though.

When was your first taste of alcohol?

15.

Have you ever driven whilst over the legal limit of alcohol within your system?

Yes.

How likely would it be for you to try drive home after consuming just over the legal amount, if you thought you were up to doing it? (please give a rating out of 10)

8.

What advantages do you feel you receive after drinking alcohol? Do you think there are any negative sides to the intoxicated you?

I'm a pretty callous person, haha, so when I'm drunk, I just don't give a fuck about anything. Things are funny, and I can tolerate people I otherwise couldn't.

Negatives are obvious. Throwing up on yourself and/or others, hangovers, and sleeping with unattractive, uninteresting people.

At what age do you consider it acceptable to be able to consume alcohol?

Depends on the person. I don't agree with an age requirement, but since there's no way we'll abolish that, I'd say 18.

Without alcohol, would a night out be worse than if you had consumed alcohol?

It depends on my mood and who I'm with. If it's with pricks, it would be worse; good friends, I can go either way.

If you're at a party, and there isn't enough alcohol, would you be tempted to go out and get more, or stay and make do with what you have?

If I'm feeling particularly fiendish, I would try to go get more. On average, I'd make due.

 

[Tagrineth]

I'll agree alcohol is far worse than pot, but I'm in favor of most drugs being socially acceptable, so I can't I'd want that fate for alcohol.

I've only ever known two mean drunks, and they were mean sober. The alcohol was just an amplification of their assholeishness. In turn, I've known nice people that were even nicer/happier/friendlier on booze. So yeah, I'd say alcohol just amplifies your personality(in most cases).

Okay the thing about Alcohol that really makes me feel it should not be as socially acceptable as it is is that it inhibits your judgment.

In other words, 90% of the human race is prone to making stupid decisions and alcohol just makes you less capable of avoiding making those stupid decisions.

I'm prone to this myself and it's one of the reasons the last time I drank was.. well, the last time I will ever drink. That stuff fucks people up... it really does.

Alcohol is a poison that dehydrates the body, not just a drug.

 

[Trippyhippy]

Okay the thing about Alcohol that really makes me feel it should not be as socially acceptable as it is is that it inhibits your judgment.

In other words, 90% of the human race is prone to making stupid decisions and alcohol just makes you less capable of avoiding making those stupid decisions.

I'm prone to this myself and it's one of the reasons the last time I drank was.. well, the last time I will ever drink. That stuff fucks people up... it really does.

Alcohol is a poison that dehydrates the body, not just a drug.

So alcohol is not for you and you won't be using it.

Why not just let it go at that? Why even take the time to post in this thread?

 

[Tagrineth]

So alcohol is not for you and you won't be using it.

Why not just let it go at that? Why even take the time to post in this thread?

Because I feel pretty strongly about the subject, decided to glance over the thread, and saw like half the replies go effectively "Yeah I've driven drunk and probably will again" which is disgusting, and when I posted my opinion people responded, and thus I responded back - thus is the nature of a web board?

 

[Stouter]

If a person is an asshole when they're drunk, but NOT an asshole when they are sober

I BLAME THE FUCKING ALCOHOL BECAUSE WITHOUT IT THEY'RE FINE.

How could you not?

Alcohol doesn't create that anger, it just puts them to the point where they vent it. Without venting it while drunk they would likely end up bottling it to the point they can snap at any moment and go on a shooting spree, or take it out by beating their wife/kids.

 

[Fellina]

The problem isn't with alcohol being socially acceptable, it's with the fact that being totally falling down piss-your-pants drunk is socially acceptable. Here in the US, alcohol use is nearly always considered as being an essential part of a party, where drinking alcohol is the entire focus of the night. (Just think of an average high school or college party without booze; what would fill that gap?) If you're brought up to believe that you can only enjoy alcohol by over-indulging, then you're going to over indulge.

Alcohol is the best social lubricant legally available. Acting as a relaxant, it can ease inhibitions and lower tensions; but lower your inhibitions too far and stupid shit happens, which people always blame on the alcohol instead of the dumbass who drank too much.

I agree that DUI is absolutely moronic. I've always felt that if you kill someone by driving drunk it should be considered first-degree murder; premeditated in the regard that you knew damn well that driving under the influence could lead to someone's death. I also know I said that I'd driven under the influence once myself, but to be honest I may have been under the legal limit when I did so. I feel that any amount of alcohol is too much to be driving under, so to me even just feeling in the warm and relaxed state while driving is too much (which is where I was at when I got behind the wheel, I'd actually stopped drinking a good hour or more before I had to drive; my buzz was totally gone about 15 minutes into my 45 minute drive).

 

[Pesmerga]

So alcohol is not for you and you won't be using it.

Why not just let it go at that? Why even take the time to post in this thread?

because hes apparently one of those people that like to push his believes on others.

 

[Excalibur]

Tag has a right to his opinion. This is what makes a good argument - both sides of the issue.

Just think of an average high school or college party without booze; what would fill that gap?

Me and my small handful of friends smoke pot. I think if more highschool/college partys were focused around pot instead of alcohol there would be alot less alcohol related deaths/pregnancies/etc. Of course there would probably be alot more people getting arrested and in jail too...this is why pot needs to be legal. I've never understood how cigarettes and alcohol, two things far worse for you than pot, could be legal and pot isn't.

Before I die I want to find Harry Anslinger's grave, smoke a bowl on it, and then piss on it.

 

[Tagrineth]

because hes apparently one of those people that like to push his believes on others.

Where the fuck am I pushing any beliefs on you? No, really, explain it to me because I don't see where I am doing that. I just posted my opinion and then explained it when I was questioned.

I'm not pushing shit, so don't say I am.

And if you think "DON'T FUCKING DRIVE DRUNK" is a bad belief to push on someone, you can fuck yourself even harder than the people who have posted that they have/will do it.

 

[pakomen]

The pakomen standard

On average, how often do you consume alcohol?
Two or three times a week. Usually Thursday, Saturday, and Monday. It's a habit. Thursday is my mid-week. Saturday is finally my weekend. Monday I want to have a few drinks before I call it a weekend.

How many units would you say it takes for you to start feeling the effects of alcohol in your body?
Four cans of beers, usually. That's when I start talking smack to the wife.

When was your first taste of alcohol?
I was probably six or seven. Uncle gave me a taste of his beer. I hated it.

Have you ever driven whilst over the legal limit of alcohol within your system?
Pretty sure I have. I remember having to drive with one eye covered a few times.

How likely would it be for you to try drive home after consuming just over the legal amount, if you thought you were up to doing it? (please give a rating out of 10)
0. I never drive if I'm going to be drinking anymore. Out here in Japan we have something called "daiko" which is a lot like a taxi except they'll drive you home in your own car. I'm not hurting for money, so I just do that if I can't go home first and just taxi to wherever it is I'm going to be drinking. Or I just make my wife drive (she can't drink right now).

What advantages do you feel you receive after drinking alcohol? Do you think there are any negative sides to the intoxicated you?
Pros: I can release. I can get all of that pent up stress out of me and just have a good time. I'm a lot more outgoing as well.
Cons: I become a bit of a showoff, and I get a little cocky. Nothing outrageous. Also, as of this weekend, fell down a flight of stairs and had to get stitches and am typing this with a pretty banged up hand... Also, waking up outside of bars at 8am and coming home to a pissed off wife always sucks.

At what age do you consider it acceptable to be able to consume alcohol?
20 sounds good. Depends on the individual's maturity level. I wouldn't drink with anyone under 24 probably.

Without alcohol, would a night out be worse than if you had consumed alcohol?
Depends on the situation and day of the week. If I'm really exhausted and I just want a drink and I can't have one, it doesn't piss me off too bad if I can have coffee instead, but I can appreciate the value of a good buzz.

If you're at a party, and there isn't enough alcohol, would you be tempted to go out and get more, or stay and make do with what you have?
Every party I'm at anymore is at a bar, danceclub, or at my house. If I'm going to be drinking at home, I tend to have enough. Bars and danceclubs do not run out of alcohol before I run out of money.