Anal People about armor

[Bumblebetuna]

Nice!!! <Run Away>

 

[Quieren]

Isnt Centurion's Gear better than Eisen if you're gonna DD as war?
not the full cent set of course, some races RSE is better and whatnot, but yeah...and who is "Him"!!! NAMES! NAMES! GIMME GIMME!!

ARE YOU NUTS, CENTURION'S SET COSTS MORE THEN 100 GIL!!! I'LL HAVE TO STOP LVLING AND GO ACTUALLY FARM!! Its official, I'm uniting all pld's, and we're changing from sword and shield and switching to Greatswords as our main weapons with a nice bst sub. No offense, but being lvl 30ish for the first time is like being 16 years old, you think you know everything but you don't know shit. Take these people's advice cause they know what works. If you can't handle 100k for gear, you're completely fucked when you get to the 50-60 range then. Also got bad news for when it comes to great swords, they suck till mid 60's and you finally get spinning slash. Then again, I'm just being a "Elitist Asshole", or maybe I just know what works.

 

[Tyrath]

he obviously doesn't want to DD if he's using a great sword though.

I think hes using it BECAUSE he wants to DD. I just think he doesnt understand why it wont work and how his dmg will be gimped in the long run.

 

[Tagrineth]

Actually, at 30, you should probably be wearing Royal Squire's Mufflers or Battle Gloves for hands, and Republic Subligar for legs. For body, there aren't many choices, but the Eisen body gives AGI, if I'm not mistaken... while Centurion's Scale has about the same def but adds VIT instead.

I can't recall any other head/foot options at that level. For a Mithra, the RSE feet are hands down the best melee feet at that level (and for a couple dozen levels after that), and Emp Pin and Leaping/Bounding/Winged boots are always a safe bet.

 

[Excalibur]

Tagrineth and Baja, I commend you on your self-control. This Shaunessy guy is being a complete and utter asshole, and on top of that he's just plain stupid. You've managed yourselves calmly and rationally. If it were me I would have to told him to GO FUCKING DIE IN A HOLE YOU MOTHER FUCKING COCK SLURPING WASTE OF LIFE, but that's just me. That's also why I don't flame too many people, I fail at it =/ ...anyways, good job.

 

[Alerith]

Ok, been gone for a few days but this is how it is:

I dont plan on taking warrior all the way to 75. GS is my choice weapon until I get to 37, from which I will be able to sub it with my NIN and never have to level it again.

As for DRK, I will be getting that soon enough, and when I do, my GS level will be well enough. I wont use axes because I just dont like them, and also because later in the game, I will have no use for them. Why would I level a skill im not going to use?

My plan ends up like this:

Level warrior to 37 to sub with Ninja.
Level Ninja until I either reach 75, or get bored.
Level Dark Knight with my superb GS skill.
Level Dark Knight until I reach 75 or get bored.

From there? Not sure. But unless I decide to pick up WAR again (which I dont), I probably won't ever have a need for axe skills.

(Unless all my other jobs are 75 and WAR is the only one left.)

 

[Alerith]

No edit button sorry. >_<

At least this way, warrior can be my sub for both Ninja or Dark Knight, and since I have used a GS, it will be easier with DRK. Katana is a completely different story.

 

[Omniscientx]

Ok, been gone for a few days but this is how it is:

I dont plan on taking warrior all the way to 75. GS is my choice weapon until I get to 37, from which I will be able to sub it with my NIN and never have to level it again.

As for DRK, I will be getting that soon enough, and when I do, my GS level will be well enough. I wont use axes because I just dont like them, and also because later in the game, I will have no use for them. Why would I level a skill im not going to use?

My plan ends up like this:

Level warrior to 37 to sub with Ninja.
Level Ninja until I either reach 75, or get bored.
Level Dark Knight with my superb GS skill.
Level Dark Knight until I reach 75 or get bored.

From there? Not sure. But unless I decide to pick up WAR again (which I dont), I probably won't ever have a need for axe skills.

(Unless all my other jobs are 75 and WAR is the only one left.)

Theres still a problem with that. You're basically saying you don't want to use an axe or great axe because you're only leveling WAR for a sub job. Not many people care what you're leveling it for, the fact is that you're making yourself less effective than if you used a Great Axe. Not to mention that as an end game DRK you would want axes capped too. Plus the whole, Scythe being better than Greatsword until 66 thing for DRK you know.

 

[Tagrineth]

Pre-capping a weapon skill makes very little difference while leveling a job.

 

[Calv/Godofdeath]

Ok, been gone for a few days but this is how it is:

I dont plan on taking warrior all the way to 75. GS is my choice weapon until I get to 37, from which I will be able to sub it with my NIN and never have to level it again.

As for DRK, I will be getting that soon enough, and when I do, my GS level will be well enough. I wont use axes because I just dont like them, and also because later in the game, I will have no use for them. Why would I level a skill im not going to use?

My plan ends up like this:

Level warrior to 37 to sub with Ninja.
Level Ninja until I either reach 75, or get bored.
Level Dark Knight with my superb GS skill.
Level Dark Knight until I reach 75 or get bored.

From there? Not sure. But unless I decide to pick up WAR again (which I dont), I probably won't ever have a need for axe skills.

(Unless all my other jobs are 75 and WAR is the only one left.)

LOL you wanna play NIN and are worried about money and equip as a WAR?!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHA JUST STOP NOW HAHAHA. As far as Weapons skill levels... I was a fucking RDM and had both Dagger and Sword capped and we don't even fight... your just fucking lazy.

 

[Makelith]

Pre-capping a weapon skill makes very little difference while leveling a job.

Already having great sword capped to a point makes it that much easier for Spinning Slash when you have to get it. I still dont see how some Drks get to 70+ w/out it. But untill 66, when you get spinning slash, scythe is the more used weapon for Drk.

 

[Omniscientx]

Already having great sword capped to a point makes it that much easier for Spinning Slash when you have to get it. I still dont see how some Drks get to 70+ w/out it. But untill 66, when you get spinning slash, scythe is the more used weapon for Drk.

O rly?
Anyway, like some dude said, this guy is just lazy.

 

[Tagrineth]

Already having great sword capped to a point makes it that much easier for Spinning Slash when you have to get it. I still dont see how some Drks get to 70+ w/out it. But untill 66, when you get spinning slash, scythe is the more used weapon for Drk.

Level Dark Knight with my superb GS skill.

and since I have used a GS, it will be easier with DRK.

Sounds like he's talking about actually using GS and benefitting from a pre-capped skill somehow to me...

 

[Eulore]

Already having great sword capped to a point makes it that much easier for Spinning Slash when you have to get it. I still dont see how some Drks get to 70+ w/out it. But untill 66, when you get spinning slash, scythe is the more used weapon for Drk.

It takes me about 2 hours to get a skill to 100 in qufim. From 0.

 

[Bret]

Ok, been gone for a few days but this is how it is:

I dont plan on taking warrior all the way to 75. GS is my choice weapon until I get to 37, from which I will be able to sub it with my NIN and never have to level it again.

As for DRK, I will be getting that soon enough, and when I do, my GS level will be well enough. I wont use axes because I just dont like them, and also because later in the game, I will have no use for them. Why would I level a skill im not going to use?

My plan ends up like this:

Level warrior to 37 to sub with Ninja.
Level Ninja until I either reach 75, or get bored.
Level Dark Knight with my superb GS skill.
Level Dark Knight until I reach 75 or get bored.

From there? Not sure. But unless I decide to pick up WAR again (which I dont), I probably won't ever have a need for axe skills.

(Unless all my other jobs are 75 and WAR is the only one left.)

Problem i see is you not wanting to be effective in an experience points pt,
i would suggest leveling Great axe axe Great sword and sword that way you can take part in skillchains and help the pt and not just yourself.

 

[Makelith]

It takes me about 2 hours to get a skill to 100 in qufim. From 0.

The first 110 skill levels only took me a couple hrs. 150 - 200 was a couple days. 200-220 took like a week. Not saying its a BIG help, but thats several levels you wont have to deal with later.

 

[Moatwog]

Er... oh, and another thing. You may not care about the weapon ranking system, but the game's internal mechanics sure do. Great Sword being a B+ weapon for Warrior vs. Great Axe being A+ and Axe being A; these are not rankings thought up by players, they are internal measurements that represent your skill cap growth as your level increases.

Skill cap determines your baseline Attack and Accuracy for a weapon at all levels. Having a lower skill means your Attack and Accuracy both go down. Compared to a Great Axe, at level 30, the difference is four skill. That's one point more than one level off, and the difference expands greatly over time - at 40, 5 points; at 50, 6 points; at 60, 7 points; finally culminating in a 20 point variance at 75.

Not only that, but most Great Sword WS aren't very powerful without SATA - they are all single hit except Sickle Moon which a DRK gets at 60 (WAR gets the skill for it a whole two levels later). Sickle Moon is a very good WS, but unfortunately, Warrior is actually incapable of using it, on top of everything else, and the strongest Great Sword WS Spinning Slash is also totally unavailable to Warrior.

Everyone benefits when people stick with their A weapons in exp parties... at least until 75 when people forsake IT++ mobs anyway, and gear options become so powerful that skill variance gives way to raw weapon power (gogo Ridill Warriors!); however, Great Swords definitely do not fall under this category.

good point(s)

 

[Blackmagik]

go away u fucking stupid fag, you stop necroing posts

 

[Moatwog]

Ok, I was leveling my WAR/NIN (29/14) in Yhoator Jungle the other day, and I get an /tell asking me what armor and weapon I had. I told him I was using full Chainmail and an Inferno Sword. (Great Sword).

The next thing I know he starts going off on me for not haveing Eisen gear and for not using two axes. I personally do not like using axes at all. Swords are my thing, always will be. And I cant really afford the Eisenschaller and the rest of the set. Not to mention the AH in Kazham was sold out.

So this is how it ended up: (This guy is level 30 WAR with his own Eisen gear)

Him: Damn noob, you need to get Eisen/Kamph gear and get two axes.
Me: I dont use axes. I hate them. {Great Sword} is my primary weapon.
Me: And I can't afford the Eisen gear.
Him: Well then you have no right leveling here.
Me: Whatever.
Him: Dont expect to find a good party noob.

So a few hours go by. I reach 33 and im about to pack up for the day. On my way out, I see him, level 28! and dead. Apparently he had d'lvld TWICE in the four hours that we had been fighting. And after all the shit he said to me earlier, he has the balls to ask me to find him a raise.

Him: Hey, find me a raise please would you?
Me: ....no.
Him: wtf? why are you being an asshole?
Me: Maybe you should get a reraise item. You'll never succeed without one. <sarcsasm>
Him: FUCKING NOOB
Me: Buh-bye /blacklist

I felt so good after that, but it just goes to show you that some of the most anal people cant handle their jobs, even with good gear. Someone said on another topic "The armor does not make the player" and this is true in most cases. If your within a reasonable level gap, you can still succeed. I had been using that chainmail since quifm and it has never failed me. This guy obviously needs help.

Someone else said it best:

Having a skilled player with lesser gear is much better than having an idiot with the best gear.

(I know its not word for word but I dont feel like finding it right now.)

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