Im going straight off what the bible says
You're going straight off what someone's translation of the bible says.....
Im going straight off what the bible says
chpal said:I think that most ppl that hate homosexuals dont hate them because of religion but becasue its disgusting in their eyes.
Tyrion said:chpal said:I think that most ppl that hate homosexuals dont hate them because of religion but becasue its disgusting in their eyes.
That always bothered me. If it's illegal because it's disgusting, why isn't it illegal for fat people, ugly people, and old people to have sex too?
(BTW, I fit into two of those categories.)
Porum said:hmmm....I wasn't aware that America was a "Gay Haven" Chpal. I'm Canadian myself and there are many places in NA where I could feel comfortable holding another man's hand if I wanted to. I was in Montreal about a month ago and it was a wonderful and liberating experience. They have a gay village where about 80 of the establishments and people are GLBT...it was great. Now I'm not saying that it's necessarily a good idea to e segregated in such a way, but it's nice to know there are places in the world where I can truly be myelf without fear of getting the shit kicked out of me. Also, i'm not sure how to take your "even the sickest pervert can live to be rich and wealthy" comment. Are you grouping gay men/women (not "gays" hehe) into that "pervert" group? I also think there are much more pressing and relavent reasons for countries to hate america than "Homosexuality is allowed to ramp[ant]" Cpal, but that is an entirely different can of worms.
The most accurate I believe is the 1611 King James.
chpal said:Tyrion said:chpal said:I think that most ppl that hate homosexuals dont hate them because of religion but becasue its disgusting in their eyes.
That always bothered me. If it's illegal because it's disgusting, why isn't it illegal for fat people, ugly people, and old people to have sex too?
(BTW, I fit into two of those categories.)
no, but how about necrophilia? thats illegal and disgusting. So is bestiality and child pornography.
chpal said:I think its sweet and I have read gravitation (gay anime) but what I dont like and find, (this is entirely MY opinion and is not meant to be offensive to anyone) sort of disgustiong is the actual sexually Homosexual act. I dont mind them marrying or adopting kids, I just hate thinking about what they do ><
Kelsilv said:The most accurate I believe is the 1611 King James.
What's so accurate about a translation that was commissioned by a King with an agenda?
chpal said:well, not entirily true actually. Some ppl that used to paricipate in Necrophilia sometimes sing a will stating that who they ellected can do "whatever" to the body, thus granting consent.
chpal said:About the child pornography, you and I both know that now adays its kind of hard to find a 20 year old virgin >< Kids are having intercourse earlier and earlier. In 8th grade i remembered that about 6 girls in my class had "done it". Child pornography is sick and perverted but it does involve some consent from the child. I know that in places like asia and europe there is a lot of chilc abuse and kidnapping, but, considering the downfall of American youth now a days (im 17 so i belong to that category) i'm not surprised if most children are doing that willingly.
Dictionary.com said:Main Entry: statutory rape
Function: noun
: rape consisting of sexual intercourse with a person beneath an age (as 14 years) specified by statute
NOTE: Many state statutes also specify a minimum age of the perpetrator or an age differential (as at least four years) between the perpetrator and the victim. Consent of the victim and belief that the victim is of the age of consent are usually considered immaterial. Statutory rape is now codified under various names, such as rape in the second degree rape in the third degree unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, and criminal sexual conduct in the second degree.
chpal said:Im not even goingt to comment on beastlity because u are right. There is no way the animals ahve any say in what is happening.
Porum said:I agree with Tyrion in that if it bothers you, don't think about it.
Background:
Dr. Laura Schlessinger is a North American radio talk-show personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. Paramount Television Group is currently producing a "Dr. Laura" television show, despite widespread protest. She has made some biblically fundamentalist statements about homosexuals that have caused the Canadian anti-hate laws to censure her. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura which was posted on the internet ...
Dear Dr. Laura,
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific biblical laws and how to best follow them. In particular:
1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some flexibility here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev. 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14).
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.