Originally Posted by Bajaratt View Post
I've never seen anyone pull hate with dispel, even when spamming it; where was this report on spell enmity?
Originally Posted by Skaw View Post
I didn't say it didn't either. I said it was stated by the person people were pulling the whole "RDMs can tank with dispel hate lol" livejournal posts from.
These 2 are just doubting rdm tanking period, endgame or exp.
Originally Posted by Bajaratt View Post
No, but you said they could be with the right changes; otherwise if they're not going to be nearly as good, there's no reason to actually give them tanking features. Your entire reasoning of why RDM might be a good tank is dependent on making big changes to the job; give it hate gaining abilities, give it hate gaining spells, give it better gear for tanking. If you have to make that many changes to make it a decent tank: the job can't tank. Get over it, RDM is not the uber-job that can do everything well; accept your role as a support job and stop trying to PUSH to move up to the front lines. The job change function is there for a reason, use it.
Warrior can tank just fine now; the only reason most people don't use them is because most warriors are retards who "unlearned" provoke. Their gear options are fine, since they get most of the gear that both PLD and NIN wears for tanking, on top of their relic/AF which has some nice enmity on it.
This one says rdm cant tank, while wars can do it with relic. So i have to assume this is about rdm tanking in endgame.
Originally Posted by Bajaratt View Post
Similar to red mage, spamming Dispel wouldn't be enough to hold hate when you have anyone doing damage on the mob. You still have nothing to effectively hold hate, if you rely on spells you'll blow through your MP really fast so you wouldn't last in a sustained fight.
Stop trying to make RDM the uber-job. They're worthless tanks right now due to their lack of effective hate tools(spamming dispel wouldn't work) and they have no effective gear for tanking that other jobs wouldn't put to 10x better use.
This is talking about sustained fights. Where except engame are the fights sustained?