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I'm sorry, but you're both wrong.
The actual birthday of Jesus was forgotten. So they originally celebrated it on Najuary 6th, April 21st and May 1st. However, during the 4th centurary, the church chose to celebrate it at the winter solastice, though, which occurs on December 21st. Astrologists had discovered that on December 25th, daytime had become noticable longer. Thus, this date is the one most pagan religions use to celebrate the rebirth of the sun.
Yes, they did chose it from pagan sources. So far you're right. It is not, however, only there to celebreate Mithra. Mithra also isn't a Roman goddess.
in Roman pagan religion, you celebrate Attis. His birthday were on December 25th, and he was sacrificed in order to bring salvation to mankind. On March 22, after havng been cruicified on a tree, he died and descended for three days to Underworld. His image were then tied to a tree on "Black Friday", and were carried to the temple, where his folowers would eat him in the form of bread. Oh, the irony.
in Greek pagan religion, Dionysus were also born on December 25th. He were the son of Zeus, the king of gods, and were mainly celebrated in Jerusalem. He, too, were worshipped by symbolically eating his flesh and blood.
In Egyptian pagan religion, Osiris is known as the sun god. All of the Egyptian kings were considered Osiris sun, untill later when they got demoted. But that's another topic. Anyway, three wise men would announce his rebirth, and his followers would eat cakes which symbolized his body.
In Persian pagan religion, Mithra were a persian saviour. While yes, they did worship her throughout the roman empire, they also did that with Osiris and several other religions. The romans were, opposed to popular belief, rather split in their beliefs. Mithraism were a strong competitor to Christianity untill 3rd century. Anyway, Mithra were, originally a persian religion. Their god were born on Dec 25th, and his birth were witnessed by sheepheards and gift-carying magicians. He's also thought to be born from a virgin, and during his life, he's said to have performed many miracles. Some examples are; curing illnesses, and bring out devils which possessed people. He celebrated a last supper with his 12 disciples, and ascended to heaven during the spring equinox March 21st.
Can anyone else see why I don't think the bible is trustworthy?
The actual birthday of Jesus was forgotten. So they originally celebrated it on Najuary 6th, April 21st and May 1st. However, during the 4th centurary, the church chose to celebrate it at the winter solastice, though, which occurs on December 21st. Astrologists had discovered that on December 25th, daytime had become noticable longer. Thus, this date is the one most pagan religions use to celebrate the rebirth of the sun.
Yes, they did chose it from pagan sources. So far you're right. It is not, however, only there to celebreate Mithra. Mithra also isn't a Roman goddess.
in Roman pagan religion, you celebrate Attis. His birthday were on December 25th, and he was sacrificed in order to bring salvation to mankind. On March 22, after havng been cruicified on a tree, he died and descended for three days to Underworld. His image were then tied to a tree on "Black Friday", and were carried to the temple, where his folowers would eat him in the form of bread. Oh, the irony.
in Greek pagan religion, Dionysus were also born on December 25th. He were the son of Zeus, the king of gods, and were mainly celebrated in Jerusalem. He, too, were worshipped by symbolically eating his flesh and blood.
In Egyptian pagan religion, Osiris is known as the sun god. All of the Egyptian kings were considered Osiris sun, untill later when they got demoted. But that's another topic. Anyway, three wise men would announce his rebirth, and his followers would eat cakes which symbolized his body.
In Persian pagan religion, Mithra were a persian saviour. While yes, they did worship her throughout the roman empire, they also did that with Osiris and several other religions. The romans were, opposed to popular belief, rather split in their beliefs. Mithraism were a strong competitor to Christianity untill 3rd century. Anyway, Mithra were, originally a persian religion. Their god were born on Dec 25th, and his birth were witnessed by sheepheards and gift-carying magicians. He's also thought to be born from a virgin, and during his life, he's said to have performed many miracles. Some examples are; curing illnesses, and bring out devils which possessed people. He celebrated a last supper with his 12 disciples, and ascended to heaven during the spring equinox March 21st.
Can anyone else see why I don't think the bible is trustworthy?
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