Back to leveling Ninja - lv 52

Lavi said:
We should all just play a game for the monotonous, unenjoyable tasks. We should all play exactly the same, equip the same gear and all be the same because there really only is one best and correct method. We should spend 800 hours obtaining beastmen seals or farm up moat carp for a month to obtain 1 piece of gear. And next month, we should repeat that same task for a SH+1 because anything less is unacceptable from the perfect standard.

It's a game. You realize that, but I don't think you fully understand. Do you play sports with friends? Perhaps golf? Let's say you are out in a round of golf and suddenly your friend pulls out a nine iron instead of a driver(I really don't have the slightest clue about golf, but it's a good example). You ask why and he says his driver broke and he hasn't replaced it. You immediately call him a gimp and tell him he shouldn't be playing golf at all until it's replaced. Would you do that? Or does your elitism only stretch to video games?
Click to expand...

If anyone pulled out a 9-iron instead of a driver, they'd never get an invite to play again from that person or any of his friends.
Why did you choose the most-elitist sport of any sport to use as your example...Golf has clubs that are strictly based on your income, you can't even use the course unless you meet the standards of money, fame and power.

Use a different example, like I explained earlier.
If someone is just coasting through class not studying and not doing homework while I bust my ass to get the best education I can to apply later, I'm sure as hell gonna respect others that are putting the same time and effort that I am into the class than those who do just enough to get by.
Can even take this to another level with the PCC comparison.
You know that getting a good grade in this class is pivotal for your success. You are presented with three options, two of which are acceptable in my eyes:
1. Bust your ass working and hire a tutor to help you succeed (ie purchasing the item after farming)
2. Study your ass off to get the grade yourself (ie, getting the pcc from the bc). Some people need to study more than others, just like some will need to attempt the bc more times. Luck and intelligence aren't related I know, but on a broader scale the concept remains the same.
3. Decide for yourself that even though people tell you over and over again that this class is pivotal for your development in said career path, you decide to skip over it for now, not gaining the full enhancement until you're 10 years into your career just barely getting by, and decide that you had better go back to school to make your life easier.
 
jamal said:
If anyone pulled out a 9-iron instead of a driver, they'd never get an invite to play again from that person or any of his friends.
Why did you choose the most-elitist sport of any sport to use as your example...Golf has clubs that are strictly based on your income, you can't even use the course unless you meet the standards of money, fame and power.

Use a different example, like I explained earlier.
If someone is just coasting through class not studying and not doing homework while I bust my ass to get the best education I can to apply later, I'm sure as hell gonna respect others that are putting the same time and effort that I am into the class than those who do just enough to get by.
Can even take this to another level with the PCC comparison.
You know that getting a good grade in this class is pivotal for your success. You are presented with three options, two of which are acceptable in my eyes:
1. Bust your ass working and hire a tutor to help you succeed (ie purchasing the item after farming)
2. Study your ass off to get the grade yourself (ie, getting the pcc from the bc). Some people need to study more than others, just like some will need to attempt the bc more times. Luck and intelligence aren't related I know, but on a broader scale the concept remains the same.
3. Decide for yourself that even though people tell you over and over again that this class is pivotal for your development in said career path, you decide to skip over it for now, not gaining the full enhancement until you're 10 years into your career just barely getting by, and decide that you had better go back to school to make your life easier.
Click to expand...
Your comparison is flawed. I need to strive in class to succeed in life which is everything if you take it seriously. This game isn't serious, it's a sidetrack for those who need a little enjoyment outside of that real life. Perhaps, to you this game is just that important and maybe that's the problem.

And last time I entered a country club for golf, I don't remember having to fill out my life story, I just had to have the 40 dollars to play. There are some resorts that do exclude, but not all are like that. There are games which are held on private servers for friends only and then there are public servers for anyone to join, there is no significant difference.
 
Lavi said:
Your comparison is flawed. I need to strive in class to succeed in life which is everything if you take it seriously. This game isn't serious, it's a sidetrack for those who need a little enjoyment outside of that real life. Perhaps, to you this game is just that important and maybe that's the problem.
Click to expand...

Competitive people are more succesful in all facets of life.
Michael Jordan won 6 NBA Championships because of his competitiveness. He also takes a game-face to every facet of life, including golf. He strives for success.
Don't give me the damn 'this is a game, its a sidetrack to life'
What other game do you have that you have put this many hours into. If you have other games that consume this much of your life, than there is no real life to compare it to.
No matter what I do, I take it seriously, and put forth my best effort. But seriously, this is way off task. For god's sakes, this is freaking 2M gil. I'm not saying get a speed belt or you suck, I'm saying to take pride in what you do here. A PCC can be used for ANY melee job at lvl 33. Once you buy it, you are in effect 'set' for any melee job's neck piece for tp gear. How many other slots can boast this kind of versatility, worthwhileness, and irreplacibility for the extremely low price of 2M
 
Ok, let's take an alternative path. Is Rappa gimping himself because he lacks a kraken club? He can spam BCNM 60's for it now and it litterally is one of the best pieces for an end game DRK to use with souleater. Regardless of the price tag, he can still do the BCNM unlimited times and has the ability to farm up endless seals, he did say so himself if I do recall not to mention the BCNM is cake, a solo RDM can do it.
 
Lavi said:
Ok, let's take an alternative path. Is Rappa gimping himself because he lacks a kraken club? He can spam BCNM 60's for it now and it litterally is one of the best pieces for an end game DRK to use with souleater. Regardless of the price tag, he can still do the BCNM unlimited times and has the ability to farm up endless seals, he did say so himself if I do recall not to mention the BCNM is cake, a solo RDM can do it.
Click to expand...

But Rappa would have to be doing endgame to "need" a K. Club. He has said it himself in other threads, multiple times, that he doesn't even do endgame anymore except for helping out occasionally.

Peace,
Shmed
 
lets just throw in a few things, then...

These 1337 WAR's out there... I can bet almost none of them actually use Ridill in offhand. Are those WAR's gimp? Umm...

Again, I bet the WAR's dont have a full, or even half a set of each, Adaman and Hecatomb... Does... this make them gimp?

What about you not having Aegis, or Hauteclaire... Or even Excalibur...? Does this make YOU gimp, Jamal?

2m is apparently pocket change for you, so wheres that shield and/or sword? Id be willing to ask most of the '1337s' the same question. Wheres their relic weapon?

Ive met people that did have relic equipment, and were actually '1337,' and take it from me, who is one of the quickest to be despised on QCDN because of the 1337 machines on here, but they were some of the nicest and understanding people Ive met in-game.
 
Ruffyreborn said:
lets just throw in a few things, then...

These 1337 WAR's out there... I can bet almost none of them actually use Ridill in offhand. Are those WAR's gimp? Umm...

Again, I bet the WAR's dont have a full, or even half a set of each, Adaman and Hecatomb... Does... this make them gimp?

What about you not having Aegis, or Hauteclaire... Or even Excalibur...? Does this make YOU gimp, Jamal?

2m is apparently pocket change for you, so wheres that shield and/or sword? Id be willing to ask most of the '1337s' the same question. Wheres their relic weapon?

Ive met people that did have relic equipment, and were actually '1337,' and take it from me, who is one of the quickest to be despised on QCDN because of the 1337 machines on here, but they were some of the nicest and understanding people Ive met in-game.
Click to expand...

This isn't about endgame gear, its about a fucking PCC. If you think PCC is on the same level as a Ridill, god help you.
Thanks Schmed for the reply to Lavi. K-club is useful in one situation...a 2-hour ability to take down HNM from <10%. Rappa has no use for this. And I'm personally known for hating the k-club...

And...just for clarification. I am a nice person, assuming you're not a dumb-ass throwing pcc in the same boat as Ridill, Aegis, Hauteclaire.

If Rappa put PCC on his current pole in end-game discussion, do you really think it would score with the likes of Aegis, Hauteclaire, and Ridill? I would rank it a 4 or a 5, because its EXTREMELY useful, but also extremely common.

Second edit...go take your reasoning outside of these boards. Tell people you're comparing a PCC to Ridill, Aegis, Hauteclaire, and Excalibur. I'd really be interested to see the responses.
 
Last edited:
jamal said:
This isn't about endgame gear, its about a fucking PCC. If you think PCC is on the same level as a Ridill, god help you.
Thanks Schmed for the reply to Lavi. K-club is useful in one situation...a 2-hour ability to take down HNM from <10%. Rappa has no use for this.
Click to expand...

It stopped being about PCC onry when someone brought sky/god gear and cop rewards into the thread, which didnt seem to change your ideas
 
Ruffyreborn said:
It stopped being about PCC onry when someone brought sky/god gear and cop rewards into the thread, which didnt seem to change your ideas
Click to expand...

I brought Swift Belt into the equation with pcc, which is early in the CoP storyline, and very easily obtainable. Endgame gear is always a WIP, so you can't compare the two by any means.
 
Ridill is cool and all, but it's not exactly common, so you can still be a "1337" warrior without Ridill. I've seen Ridill too, it's cool, but I personally like Maneater/Juggernaut just because I like axes a little more. Maybe I just haven't seen a good Ridill warrior. But you by no means need to have a Ridill to be a top of the line warrior.

Adaman body and full Hecatomb and Ridill though don't have to do with a Peacock Charm. Peacock Charm, firstly, isn't even from end game, if you really work for it, you could have one at level 1.

Also, 2 million is pocket change for some people.

Swift Belt is, I think, 100x easier to get than Peacock Charm. For Peacock Charm you have to farm seals or camp Argus, who's window does suck and camping can be incredibly boring. Or you can farm the 2 million up to buy Peacock Charm. Swift Belt on the other hand requires you to do CoP missions up to Sacriarium (The missions can all be done easily in one night with 5 other friends, except I think a few CSs might make you wait till Japanese midnight, don't remember). Not to mention the fact that you can farm codex's for the belt and cap your hate in Phomw/e Aquaducts and be 100% ready to pop Swift Belt as soon as you get to Sacriarium. Swift Belts drop rate is also way better than Peacock Charms. Granted, i'm 0/5 on it now, I've seen plenty of people go 1/1 or 1/2 on it. 0/5 on Swift Belt is also better than 0/52 on Peacock Charm BCNM.
 
I sign on this game to help my sky LS because they helped me get my sky gear for Rng and Nin, and i'm gonna help them get theirs; and I sign on to do Limbus. Other than that I may sign on the weekend for few hours here and there. My days of farming for hours, crafting for hours, and being able to sign on an harvest flowers on the right days are over.

The money I have now has to pay for Limbus, tools, food, and ammo when I sign on to do these things, as well when I decide to sign on and do a BCNM, merit, or whatever I feel like doing when I'm on my own time, so spending 2 mill of that money on a PCC is out of the question. I don't see anything wrong with that, and I in no way see myself as gimp in any way for missing one piece of gear put against all my other gear.

These topics always kill me, because I've been playing since NA release and
NO ONE had anything at the right level including myself, so I'm not now or have ever been a hypocrite, but in these topics sometimes people wanna type what people need to have with their hands, while holding closed the closet door with their foot so their own bones won't fall out.
 
Aaleel said:
The money I have now has to pay for Limbus, tools, food, and ammo when I sign on to do these things, as well when I decide to sign on and do a BCNM, merit, or whatever I feel like doing when I'm on my own time, so spending 2 mill of that money on a PCC is out of the question. I don't see anything wrong with that, and I in no way see myself as gimp in any way for missing one piece of gear put against all my other gear.
Click to expand...
That's your prerogative, I'm not here to change your mind, but god please don't tell others to do the same.

Just glanced at your jobs list. PCC is even more important to you than someone with pure melee. Do yourself a favor and spend the time to get it. Then come back and tell me if its worth it. Until you've seen both sides of the fence, you can't say which side is greener.
 
If I still played the game full time fine. If I was still crafting, gardening, and all the other stuff I was doing to get my Haub, SH, Kreigs, and everything else fine. But I don't play enough anymore to warrant spending 2 mill of my gil on an item. My hardcore playing days are over.

I don't have the time to spend to get it. I do sky and Limbus. Then I play every now and then on Sat or Sun. I've been playing this game for years, and now I just wanna do what I want when I have time to play outside those things.

People change what they're playing for. I played basketball in college, and I demanded a lot from myself and my team and I had every right too because everyone should be there for the same thing, which I liken to an endgame LS. But if I go to a rec center, or playground, people could be there to get out the house, get exercise, blow off steam, whatever, and they have every right to do what they want. I could be telling them everything they need to be better players, or they could be former players, but if they have families, jobs or whatever and don't have time to practice everyday, shoot hundreds of shots, lift, or jump rope then they don't have to. Doesn't mean they're lazy, bad players, or anything, it just means that they don't want the same things out of basketball anymore.

Now I just did Kirin and Limbus today, and I more than pull my weight with the gear I have now, if they don't like my gear, they can ask me to leave, and I'll do it without argument, but my days of grinding are over.
 
If I still played full time fine. If I still was crafting, gardening, and doing all the other stuff I did for Kote, Haub, SH, Kriegs of whatever than fine. But my hardcore playing days are over. I do Limbus, sky, and play a few hours on a Sat or Sun sometimes. I've been playing since the beginning, and I just want to do what I want to when I have time to play outside shell business.

I just did a Kirin and Limbus, and I do well for myself with what I have, but if they asked to leave due to gear I would go with no argument, but I doubt they would.

I liken this game to when I played basketball in college, lifted, shot hundreds of shots everyday, ran, jumped rope, everything. But now I don't have time to do all that, and I'll probably never be in that shape as a player again. Doesn't mean I was a lazy player, a bad player or anything else. I just don't play for the same things as the kids that play on the team now play for, and don't have time to play for them. I play basketball when I have time, but my days as a hardcore player much like my days as a hardcore FF player are over.
 
Wth keeps happening to my posts.

But whatever, the one thing I always see missing from lower lvl ninja threads is Shuriken. I found they were good for keeping hate. 52 may be a little high to be using them a lot, but they're good if your throwing is capped.
 
To use you Michael Jordan analogy because I played basketball in college. Do you think Michael Jordan still has the regimen he used to have. I used to lift, run, jump rope, plyometrics, shot hundreds of shots a day, but now I don't. I don't have time to pursue basketball like I used to, and now I play for fun when I can. But under your logic this means someone is a lazy player, a bad player, or whatever just because they aren't playing for the same things everyone else is anymore. Some people still want to do whatever takes to have the best of everything in every slot, and others just play to be around friends or just habe fun and hang out. My hardcore days are over just like the are in basketball.
 
Why won't my posts stay on here?
 
Aaleel said:
To use you Michael Jordan analogy because I played basketball in college. Do you think Michael Jordan still has the regimen he used to have. I used to lift, run, jump rope, plyometrics, shot hundreds of shots a day, but now I don't. I don't have time to pursue basketball like I used to, and now I play for fun when I can. But under your logic this means someone is a lazy player, a bad player, or whatever just because they aren't playing for the same things everyone else is anymore. Some people still want to do whatever takes to have the best of everything in every slot, and others just play to be around friends or just habe fun and hang out. My hardcore days are over just like the are in basketball.
Click to expand...

Then don't recommend to others to take the easy route and gimp themselves. You're already 75 at two jobs that you should have had PCC for LONG ago, you're a lost cause in my opinion.
The fact you try to justify yourself being a RNG without having the most popular RNG piece over the last 4 years is beyond me. That's your decision, its wrong, but I'm not gonna try to change your mind, because you've been riddled in mediocraty for so long you've been accustomed to it. What I do have a problem with is you telling others its ok to do so as well.

People like you created the Ruffy's of the world, getting advice just to get things when you can, until you reach a point when you can't spend the time to get things anymore. Everyone relaxes at some point in their career in this game, and if you start out not caring, then you're gonna be even worse when the grind actually does hit you.
 
Aaleel said:
To use you Michael Jordan analogy because I played basketball in college. Do you think Michael Jordan still has the regimen he used to have. I used to lift, run, jump rope, plyometrics, shot hundreds of shots a day, but now I don't. I don't have time to pursue basketball like I used to, and now I play for fun when I can. But under your logic this means someone is a lazy player, a bad player, or whatever just because they aren't playing for the same things everyone else is anymore. Some people still want to do whatever takes to have the best of everything in every slot, and others just play to be around friends or just habe fun and hang out. My hardcore days are over just like the are in basketball.
Click to expand...

I'm sure Jordan still puts on a pair of jordans to play, and not gimp it up with XJ-900s.
 
jamal said:
Then don't recommend to others to take the easy route and gimp themselves. You're already 75 at two jobs that you should have had PCC for LONG ago, you're a lost cause in my opinion.
The fact you try to justify yourself being a RNG without having the most popular RNG piece over the last 4 years is beyond me. That's your decision, its wrong, but I'm not gonna try to change your mind, because you've been riddled in mediocraty for so long you've been accustomed to it. What I do have a problem with is you telling others its ok to do so as well.

People like you created the Ruffy's of the world, getting advice just to get things when you can, until you reach a point when you can't spend the time to get things anymore. Everyone relaxes at some point in their career in this game, and if you start out not caring, then you're gonna be even worse when the grind actually does hit you.
Click to expand...

Lawl, I don't have PCC. C. Chain nukka!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top