Ballista League:Concept

What caps would you like to see?

  • uncapped

    Votes: 22 29.3%

  • 60

    Votes: 15 20.0%

  • 50

    Votes: 2 2.7%

  • Multiple leagues?

    Votes: 32 42.7%

  • Other (please post)

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
Kirayamato said:
hell i am never afraid of blms if my poison is up.
chances are i can sprint and be too far for blm to cast or interrupt his casting through melee-ing
it will get far if melees are unprepared but i don't think ballista veterans will fall to this.
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It's not hard to interrupt a BLM, seeing as how lolDRG is completely overpowered when jumps are available :P

If you want this thing to be entirely skill based, you're going to have to mandate some rules. Like MUST have AF on, and a specific weapon based off the job. Otherwise, no matter the cap, it's still in favor of those with the best equipment.
 
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If they go BLM/NIN then your meleeing won't do crap if their shadows are up, most usually have stoneskin up as well. If there's 5 blm's then all they have to do is cast whatever their most powerfull -ga spell is all at once and it'll wipe everyone out. For example some of the people that work together in the 40 caps plan this out to and do like 3 or 4 blm's that just stonega II all at once whenever there's a clump of people. The ones with the spell interuption -% gear are really hard to take down as well because you can hit them like 3 or 4 times and they'll still cast. However if they're not very prepared for PvP it's usually easy to take em down.
 
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Botosai said:
If they go BLM/NIN then your meleeing won't do crap if their shadows are up, most usually have stoneskin up as well.
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How can they have Stoneskin without a WHM sub or SMN with Titan?
 
that was supposed to read like it was two different parts, my bad lol, I'll sum it up. shadows if /nin, stoneskin if /whm
 
I'm not very experiance in ballista...but from what I've seen, shadows are crap most of the time ;x
 
lol for a blm/nin it's enough to get a pretty nasty -ga spell on ya. I just thought of a couple ways to beat it, requires a bit of teamwork though :D
 
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lol@blm/nin

diaga
stone/poisonga
dual wield
=
no shadows

and a blm who can only cure themself via drain is left as the remainder.

free gate breach.
 
Sandria said:
I won't lie, I can most likely count on my hands how many times I have done Ballista so my opinion may or may not matter. (Also, this coming as a White Mage experience... uncapped and in the Ghelsba zone)

Things that turned me off to Ballista:

Off balanced teams. You were either winning or you were losing to the extreme. There was no real in between with the exception of a few times (those being the times that were the most enjoyable).

Getting up and dying again over and over again. I guess this being the down-side of being on the losing team but still a waste of 30 mins or however long the match is. With this in mind-- teams for the league will most likely create this result anyway. Your veterans will stomp over any novice teams regardless of gear or jobs. Maybe suggest making a list of those who want to do a QCDN sponcered league and pair up vets with rookies like myself.

You have two types of players (well 3).. Those who have never done Ballista and those who do Ballista all of the time. The third type being those who do it occassionally but usually would lean to one extreme or the other. For those with minimal to no experience with Ballista it can be a turn-off at the start. (Refer back to the comment on raising and dying over and over again.)

What I liked:

The team sport of it. Setting up strats and implimenting them. Randomly throwing off people's shadows and silencing them and tossing in a Cure V from out of no where and completely changing the odds of the fight. Fun stuff. Usually only seemed to find this enjoyment when the teams were balanced. Though, that's my two cents others I am sure find more enjoyment on simply adding more kills under the belt.

Uncapped seems to appeal to me more due to the fact I don't want to get a whole new set of gear to participate and I'm sure others feel the same.

I think Marienkind was trying to set something like this up at one time. I'd recommend talking with her about this idea. Though, if you are looking into widening your player base I'd greatly advice not to put all your all-stars on one team and your rookies on other teams or you're just going to have a lot of hack'n'slash but that really depends on what you're aiming for.

And setting up a code of ethics/sportsmanship would be a good idea.

Anyhoo that's my two cents.
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Hi it's Marien^^/. I wasnt trying to really make a league, great idea though^^; I was trying to make a JP/NA Ballista LS, which didnt work out so well since I also decided to take a break from FF at about the same time XD. My only advice for this league is: Be careful of egos, they tend to rip apart LSs without the help of ballista, so having that many people in one LS with I'm sure more pride than they'd like to admit may cause some friction eventually.
 
Liefe said:
lol@blm/nin

diaga
stone/poisonga
dual wield
=
no shadows

and a blm who can only cure themself via drain is left as the remainder.

free gate breach.
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yeah that's basically how to do it, unless they're all spread out so they don't all get hit from AOE spells, then it just sucks. dual wield by itself won't work because by the time you attack them the second time they would have casted. Stoneskin is the real problem.
 
Botosai said:
yeah that's basically how to do it, unless they're all spread out so they don't all get hit from AOE spells, then it just sucks. dual wield by itself won't work because by the time you attack them the second time they would have casted. Stoneskin is the real problem.
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Stoneskin (As I have seen) can't be dispelled by Finale, or atleast, not on any mobs I have fought. But couldn't a RDM get the Stoneskin off of them? Or couldn't you sleep them and wait for it to wear?
 
Possibly does stoneskin count as having DEF+? If so a sidewinder/slugshot would pierce right through that.
 
Stoneskin negates a large portion of damage. Sometimes, even with Stoneskin on, you still recieve damage. Doesn't add defense (has used it plenty of times on WHM to realize that). So, even with it on, you're not invincible.
 
BLM/NIN wouldn't have stoneskin on for 1, unless it was from a torque, in which case you can just sleepga them and pick them off one by one.

In all honesty, black mage isn't really all that fantastic in ballista. Sleep caps at 45 seconds regardless of the I/II used, magic damage is reduced 33%.

A party with 5 low-mid tier jobs + a support job vs a balanced party containing top-tier frontline and support would be destroyed. It's pretty cut and dry.

I'm fairly certain I could duo a party setup like that in fact..lol
 
Liefe said:
BLM/NIN wouldn't have stoneskin on for 1, unless it was from a torque, in which case you can just sleepga them and pick them off one by one.

In all honesty, black mage isn't really all that fantastic in ballista. Sleep caps at 45 seconds regardless of the I/II used, magic damage is reduced 33%.

A party with 5 low-mid tier jobs + a support job vs a balanced party containing top-tier frontline and support would be destroyed. It's pretty cut and dry.

I'm fairly certain I could duo a party setup like that in fact..lol
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The cap of 45 seconds for sleep is still an awfully long time for the members, or member, to do some serious damage or buffs.
 
Botosai said:
I'd love to see it lol. and the stoneskin was for /whm.
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It would not be hard, in fact, it would be a joke lol. BLU FTW
 
Dua said:
It would not be hard, in fact, it would be a joke lol. BLU FTW
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lol Blu's are overated. I've trashed them in ballista as ninja, and I've watched the 60 caps and uncapped as they got owned 1 vs.1 against a mnk, war, sam, and pld. I haven't seen anything else go 1 vs.1 with blu but from what I've seen they're not so impressive. All blu's think they can own mage jobs cause they can silence them, yeah well there's these items most prepared people have in their inventory, they're called echo drops lol. Anyways, are we going to start to seriously making regulations or anything soon?
 
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Botosai said:
lol Blu's are overated. I've trashed them in ballista as ninja, and I've watched the 60 caps and uncapped as they got owned 1 vs.1 against a mnk, war, sam, and pld. I haven't seen anything else go 1 vs.1 with blu but from what I've seen they're not so impressive. All blu's think they can own mage jobs cause they can silence them, yeah well there's these items most prepared people have in their inventory, they're called echo drops lol. Anyways, are we going to start to seriously making regulations or anything soon?
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Regardless their silence is crappy, it's close ranged and I think it's based like a eye move, you need to be facing them. RDM 4tw. Bar silence and start the silence gun.

Undefeated one vs one on rdm so far, but then again, it's frikin rdm.


In full support of this league, I'd take place in it as part or leader of a team, but I'd prefer to help set it up and matain it.
 
Cythe said:
You called 3 mage, 3 melee ridiculous, and this is your counter to a better idea?

Heh, besides, 5 BLM and BRD would get wasted before they could do a single thing to anyone that used poison potions, as Kira said.
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I'm saying to choose whatever you want.
If I want 5 BLM and 1 BRD then I could get that.
If I wanted 1 BLM and 5 WARS then I could get that.
 
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