Do People Believe Things Into Existance?

It's a single blade of grass.

And it's purple.

=) It's always been purple, red, orange, green at the same time

The A and B chollorphyll(sp) in plants

The leaves dont change color they reflect their condition which seems like change but is not.

the green in plants is chollorphyll A which makes the plant appear green when there is an abscense of water chollophyll B becomes dominant the green is always there but the red-purple spectrum(can vary with water in the plant of course) shows itself more in the blade of grass than the green(chollophyll A) does.

Not a change but another side of reality

Using the green in the grass as normal and the purple that dwells in the same blade of grass to represent the oddities and depth of life.

in other words it's an extended metaphor, sorry I hope that makes sense, I'm sure you didnt refer to what I said by any means but I kinda used it as a metaphor.

Hope it makes sense
 
aliens does exist. The universe is extremely large, and there's over a million planets with similar conditions as earth, so odds are alien lifeforms do exist.

However, I doubt they'd ever reach earth, unless they have eternal life and can live without life and water for over 275,000 years.

Well, unless they can somehow invent a way to manually create a wormhole from anywhere to anywhere, whenever they want, and travel to it. Which I suppose is possible, but considering the ammount of planets that exists, the odds they'd visit ours is rather small.

The mind is a marvelous thing. We adjust our vision to what we know and what we believe. And we always look for a reason to justify what we've seen. For an example, Bloody Mary. She killed her staff and bathed in their blood, and threw them out on the cornfield. When the citizens found them, they thought the only logical thing was vampires.

If we see something we can't explain, we follow our own believes to make a conclusion about what it was. However, humans generally suck at noticing details, and especially remembering them. Additionally, most "weird" things happen during night time, and not during day time. This is the key point when explaining things. During daytime, our vision is at its peak. During moonlight, we actually only see in grayscale. However, we have our own assuptions about which colors things are, and the brain color them accordingly. This naturally leads to some things being colored wrong, and since our sense of details suck, and due to the bad lightning, stuff can appear to NOT be what they really are.

There are almost ALWAYS a logical explanation to things that happen, we just don't notice details etc. and also tend to not look for a real reason, and instead go by our own believes to justify what we say.

I'll make more responses later, in Dynamis atm xD
 
LOL

Oh nevermind, excuse me as I go to my basement and smoke a joint with Tupac, Biggie Smalls, Kurt Cobain and Elvis. Oh, maybe I should invite Jesus over while I'm at it.
 
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Oh nevermind, excuse me as I go to my basement and smoke a joint with Tupac, Biggie Smalls, Kurt Cobain and Elvis. Oh, maybe I should invite Jesus over while I'm at it.

*looks in the mirror* biggie smalls, biggie smalls...biggie smalls

fuck it didnt work
 
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However, I doubt they'd ever reach earth, unless they have eternal life and can live without life and water for over 275,000 years.

Who's to say they have to live on water? Just because the many species on earth need water to survive doesn't mean an alien race would have to live on water and food. Assuming theories of wormholes exist to, an alien race could control them and instantaneously warp anywhere.

I love and hate the thought that the universe is massive. I love it because of all the great possibilities and hate it because I will never be able to see all the other planets and their beauty.
 
Who's to say they have to live on water? Just because the many species on earth need water to survive doesn't mean an alien race would have to live on water and food. Assuming theories of wormholes exist to, an alien race could control them and instantaneously warp anywhere.

I love and hate the thought that the universe is massive. I love it because of all the great possibilities and hate it because I will never be able to see all the other planets and their beauty.

Who needs food and water when you have a giant spaceship. There could be aliens out there that are 50 feet tall, so miles to them are nothing, and when youre that big, youre going to be moving quite a bit faster, self and technology
 
Who's to say they have to live on water? Just because the many species on earth need water to survive doesn't mean an alien race would have to live on water and food. Assuming theories of wormholes exist to, an alien race could control them and instantaneously warp anywhere.

I love and hate the thought that the universe is massive. I love it because of all the great possibilities and hate it because I will never be able to see all the other planets and their beauty.
If they can live without water, they still need something else for their body. It is impossible for anything to live without any sort of food to turn in to energy, however. It would be impossible for anything to live an extended period of time without energy.

Yes, I've used the very same energy that alien races doesn't neccesarily need water to live. They do, however, need something to take the place of water. The problem is, all planets have the same periodic table, since we're all built from atoms. So the list is somewhat short.

as all living things are organic, they're still limited by the same restrictions we are. That is, need of an energy source, and eventually death. There is no living creature that can live for over 100,000 years, and the odds are even less that there's a living creature that can live for over 100,000 years without an energy source.

Yes, I mentioned wormholes in my post. If they could find a way to manipulate the time and space fabric, then yes, they could probably get to us in a timely manner. It would, however, require a huge ammount of power to do, which would require them to have a gigantic mother ship with its own fission (or fusion, although that's a bit more dangerous) powerplant. Even if they do have this, the odds that they'd find and cose our planet out of all that exists would be less then finding a needle in a hay stack. That's not to say its impossible though, given enough time you will find that needle eventually. Either way, my point is, if it happened during the last years (and there's several hundred reports per year), we'd have more official proof of their existance.

And yes, antimatter is real There's also dark energy. The current theory about it, is that energy is what causes gravity, and dark energy is what causes, well, anti-gravity. During the universe's birth, antimatter and matter were at a balance, together with energy and dark energy, but eventually, dark energy took over, causing the universe to expand at a more rapid rate. Basically, energy pulls the universe inwards, while dark energy drags it outwards, somewhat like an inflated/deflated balloon.

Personally, I believe that way of thinking is way too simplified. I hope it is too, as the existance of wormholes would be pretty much impossible in such a universe.

A normal sphere have 2 dimensions. That's the sphere you see in a threedimensional room. A Hypershpere have three dimensions, and that's the sphere you see in a fourdimentional room. I'm sure you see where I'm going with this. This means that every section you leave, you enter in to one more dimension. We, as humans, are three-dimensional creatures. We have width, height, and depth. We live in, and experience, a four-dimensional room, and the fourth dimension is time. However, the room we live in, exists in a larger room, the universe, which would give the universe five dimensions. I would like to add, though, that all dimensions below the one you currently exist in, can be manipulated, while the ones above you can only be experienced. The fifth dimension would be somewhat weird, as it wouldn't have a real defined shape. Personally, I'd say its gravitation, or some sort of energy. Hence, the entire universe would be a room with gravitation and anti-gravitation. Hence, the fifth dimension would be able to fold itself and whatever is in it.

If you take a surface of water, placing a object in it would cause ripples (sp?) on the suface. In universe, the sun would sink a bit in to the surface of the fifth dimension. It is not just a flat surface though, its a surface within a surface, basically, the entire fifth dimension would be shaped as a giant surface, which drags things towards eachother (gravity). By taking the water surface, and fold it like a paper, by applying enough energy, you could cause the object to sink through the surface, and appear on the surface below it. This phenomenon would be worm holes, and a similar, albeit weaker phenomenon, would be black holes. The black hole would be like a stone which just keeps sinking towards the bottom. But as the entire fifth dimension is gravity, it keeps sinkng without refilling the surface, thus dragging new objects in to it, which also proceeds to sink. So in order to create a wormhole, you need a giant burst of energy, to fold the space and create a door to to through, and if done the wrong way, will cause you to just sink.

However, if you could somehow invent dark energy, you could possibly somehow create a burst of dark energy to expand the universe in front of you and cause a doorway, and perhaps that's all a wormhole is. A sudden creation of dark energy in universe.

The above is mainly my own theory though, so take it with a grain of salt.

Also, on the talk about antimatter, it is calculated that if a human, and antimatter human shakes hands, the explosion caused would be greater then that of an atomic bomb.

Edit: also, while you can argue that a sphere have three dimensions if you see it, and thus can argue that a hypersphere have three dimentions, it do actually have 2. Its because mathematichians see a sphere as only a two-dimentional object, with only an area, but no volume. Which is why you see a sphere as a twodimentional object in a threedimensional room. I realize now that I might have caused some confusions as I mentioned us being threedimensional, while the sphear is twodimentionals. That's because I somewhat changed what I was originally going to write, and instead decided to include depth, instead of only area.

Also felt like adding, I suppose its possible that antimatter is dark energy. Normal matter would logically have normal energy and gravitation. Following the same logic, antimatter would have dark energy and anti-gravitation. So perhaps by creating antimatter, you create dark energy. If you see it like this, combined with the fact that we've already created antimatter in laboratoriums, it might not be too far fetched to say that we might eventually be able to manipulate worm holes, albeit only in universe.
 
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Ahh, the Jersey Devil, more properly called Leeds' Devil. I'm from NJ and I live outside the pine barrens, so I'm quite familliar with the entire myth. A few years ago I went with some of my fellow classmates up into a camp for a 2 day experience. We had normal activities up in the pine barrens with our guides. We were all told the thrilling story of Leeds' devil over the campfire and I have to say, I barely slept that night. The cabins weren't very warm and that in addition to being in the freezing cold in October, it really had you on edge after hearing the story, since there wasn't anything for miles around.

I'm not a piney, but most people around here definitely believe in Leed's devil, though most don't believe he does harm. There have been though, quite a few newspaper articles in the past depicting horrible slaughters of animals, and it has been blamed on the Leed's devil. If you've ever been through the Pine Barrens, it can be especially frightening at night even while driving.
 
Oh yea, I know all that stuff, quite interesting to me for some odd reason. I'm just pointing out that they could live off of carbon or something instead of water. :biggrin:
 
Oh yea, I know all that stuff, quite interesting to me for some odd reason. I'm just pointing out that they could live off of carbon or something instead of water. :biggrin:
Well, it is possible, as evolution adjust to living conditions. Would be quite interresting to see, actually, as they couldn't have normal cells like we do. Their entire body would work in an entirely different way xD

However, I do believe most planets with life on them have water, as the universe have a whole lot of ice floating around. The water on earth most likely comes from comets etc. hitting earth when it was first created.
 
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Who needs food and water when you have a giant spaceship. There could be aliens out there that are 50 feet tall, so miles to them are nothing, and when youre that big, youre going to be moving quite a bit faster, self and technology

Great they're 50 foot tall they can cover a mile in seconds...that still doesn't change the fact that they would be in a spaceship where that size wouldn't really make any difference.

Not to mention i think you must underestimate the size of the universe as the speed of light is 300,000,000m/s. That is 300,000 kilometres a second. And even going at that speed - which is believed to be the maximum speed anything can go - it would take you something like 100,000 years to reach andromeda our adjacent galaxy.

Further you couldn't reach the edge of the universe since it appears to be travelling faster than the speed of light.

Of course i'm sure the last "Fact" will have changed in 10 years time.

On a sidenote Anti-matter is created at the same time as matter, as matter comes from energy, However it is believed that 1/10000 anti-matter atoms turn into normal matter, thus suggesting that when the big bang happened both were created and that the universe should actually be 20000 times larger. I seem to recall it was called the pion effect or something...was a leacture i attended at cambridge like a year and a half ago i'm afraid can't remember much of it. A google search would probably prove fruitful if you are interested.
 
I was just giving an example of 50 foot aliens, they could be bigger or smaller, and even travel much faster than we can, without harm or difficulty. 300,000 kilometres a second may be the fastest speed that humans believe anything can travel, but is very probable (if alien life exists) that they have technology that can far surpass this.

The big bang theory was that matter and antimatter began to mix, which caused the enormous explosion, but there was a bit more matter than antimatter, which is what the universe is as we know it.

On another note, lets think about what aliens look like! Are they intelligent creatures, do they have the appearance of humans, lizards, fish, or the typical alien look? Scientists believe that if alien life is found, that they will have the form of beetles, or beetle-like creatures...
 
Personally, I love thinking things like Nessie and Bigfoot exist.

I'm also convinced my condo is haunted. My brother thinks I'm crazy, because he's never seen the things I've seen, but I think it's because the ghost doesn't like him.

It isn't paranoia if they really are out to get you.
 
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