Fleist

[Lanien]

The thing is, your leader did choose 2 of Absolutes zones. Jeuno from the run you went 30 over in, and Windurst which audino posted. It may not be an intentional thing, however it would be a dick move if you guys carried over into Absolute's time frame.

I am seriously getting sick and tired of your bullshit in every thread.

 

[FleistLoC]

To Absolute:

To further support my case that the schedule I set was not intentional so as to deprive your group of a delayed start time, your schedule was posted via the QCDN public forum on December 28th, 2007, 01:00 PM.

The schedule I provided to my linkshell, tentatively, was posted almost two days before yours, "Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:00 pm" which you can confirm with Supahkhronic, who I believe is still a friend of yours, a former leader of Absolute, and now a member supporting the goals of LoC and Dreams.

 

[jamal]

Don't see me going around saying everyone in AG has a thumb up their ass, or Encore needs to work on their tanking when they don't have a certain awesome Galka on the front line who actually knows what he's doing or that some moron needs to stop trying to tank things on his own because shit's going too slow for him and his pussy's bleeding.

I'd really love to hear who gave you that synopsis of me.

 

[Audino]

I'd really love to hear who gave you that synopsis of me.

Seconded. -.^

Don't know though Jam, he didn't have the balls to say your name, so maybe he won't say this one either.

 

[Rappa]

What's up with pussies talking about people behind their back? The whole point of the flameboard is to be a man and call people out on their shit, not to be some kind of pansy that talks behind people's backs and spreads ignorant rumors. I swear our server has more pussies than a Catminster competition.

 

[Zaus]

I am seriously getting sick and tired of your bullshit in every thread.

Then GTFO.

 

[Sirelrohir]

This thread delivers!

 

[Isollde]

That condescending "welcome to FFXI" BS like I've never done anything in the game gets real old and doesn't do much more than make you look pretentious.

In sky, if someone's fighting Genbu you can move to Suzy and then come back. If someone's fighting Kirin you can go farm something and then come back. If someone's in Jueno I can't just go do another zone and come back. It's not really the same thing and it's not fair to ask 20 other people to sacrifice more of their night for the thoughtlessness of a former shellmate.

Post from first page i'm replying to because I just got home from work.

Not trying to be pretentious, shit I wasn't even being sarcastic. It's just how this game is. There is lot of waiting around for others to get something done. Yes you can go do other things in sky. But saying a zone was stolen because they ran over expected time is a bit far fetched. Sorry your shit got moved back but again it happens.

 

[Lucki]

 

[Feiid]

Lec,

This isn't a matter of the company I keep, my "quip" was more or less at Feiid in regard to being a "character reference" when friend defenses don't really hold much water here.

Damn you and your rules!!! I was GOING to use the character reference defense in your case, but that just got shot to hell!!!

I guess "character defense" doesn't proc. on QCDN?

/em fails at life

feiid

 

[Xalioniaf]

The thing is, your leader did choose 2 of Absolutes zones. Jeuno from the run you went 30 over in, and Windurst which audino posted. It may not be an intentional thing, however it would be a dick move if you guys carried over into Absolute's time frame.

That's two. Hardly anything to write home about. Conflicts do happen, especially since it's a Saturday. Fuck, two more runs are kinda conflicting with Invictus, so it's not like Fleist is doing this on purpose.

 

[Achates]

Achates, please stop trying to manipulate the actions of that evening into some sort of vendetta against your shell. I (We, Fleist & Co.) could care less about Absolute as, it's in the past. This is about the evenings surrounding Saturday night. If you want to bring up the past, we should do so in a different flame. We could do a thread poll titled "Fleist or Achates" and see who gets the most support, but honestly you would eat dust. I have so much ammunition on you I could basically end the war in the middle east if I had to.

I never said in anything is was a vendetta against my shell. I also posted in response to Kimaara saying the same. I'm simply saying you could give two shits about this, and the words "I'm sorry" are beyond you.

I could give a flying fuck if you hate me or my friends.

Thanks for the heads up at least that there MAYBE another overlap. I'll set my shell up to be ready so you dont have to leave early. This is all I asked for from the beginning. A little courtesy...

 

[Dani]

I'm sorry your shell was disbanded and that you had to wait a little bit to enter but I feel that if we were any other shell, we wouldnt have been flamed.

Kimaara

Our shell didn't disband and neither your nor your shell were flamed. I flamed Fleist. Your name was brought up merely to mention that Fleist and his friends were once part of Absolute.

-Observing said schedule, Absolute knew who would enter Dynamis-San d’Oria and when. (Using In-game communication hours before another shell’s run, in comparison to posting in advance on QCDN, as an attempt at justification, or putting forth effort, is as messed up as Hogan’s goat. Do not use it.)
-Absolute acknowledges it deviated from the posted schedule that they requested. The reason is not pertinent. Internal conflicts belong to that shell, not the FFXI community.
-Changing to another zone at the last moment results in a later entrance/exit time than what was scheduled.
-Absolute(Dani) acknowledges infringing upon another LS’s scheduled time is unjust.

By your own accord, if Absolute had stayed in a zone that they were not scheduled for in the first place, and encroached upon another LinkShell’s scheduled time, Absolute would have been in the wrong. Again, thank you for exiting before RidersOfRohan was to enter. But in the future, please adhere to the requests you are asking of other linkshells and reconsider Absolute’s options when making last minute changes.

RidersOfRohan respects the posted schedule and other shells’ time. It only asks for the same in return.

Not once did I say I have issues issue with schedule deviations. My issue was that no one checked the posted schedule to see that by continuing they'd be infringing on our time.

When we entered Sandy before RoR we were well aware of when you'd be entering and made every effort (successfully) to leave before you got in. If we'd have been in there at your start time I'd have been happy asking my people to drop their glasses. It's not your shells fault that we had to change. I told you we had the opportunity for another extention. You asked me not to because your shell was waiting. I said not to worry because we weren't. I saved that conversation if you'd like to see it. I apologized profusely for entering a zone we were not scheduled for even though I really didn't have to. We didn't keep you from entering on time at all. So, I'm glad you respect the posted schedule. We do too, which is why we checked it before making a change.

First off, if you are going to name names, Please get your facts straight. Rari is an officer of Riders of Rohan LS. He has been a member of RoR, formerly Spiftastic Adventures, since June 11, 2007. The only reason he was in absolute stems from RoR only doing one run a week. He tried out your shell around Oct. 14, 2007 for his second weekly run and it didn't fit his style. He didn't leave to go start a new shell.

And what Rari said is right on the nail, we appreciate you guys exiting in a timely fashion, but just remember that you set the standard for which you judge everyone else.

Reread. I said Rari was part of Absolute. I said Fleist started a new shell. I never said Rari started a new shell.

Again, I had no issue with them being there at that zone. My issue was that they were still there when we were supposed to enter.

Agreed, but then some people never seem to get much satisfaction out of this game unless they are hollaring bloody murder from the rooftops over the least little thing.

Fuck. Off. Jeska.

It's anything for attention isn't it? I can't even take anything you say seriously. You of all people to talk about some people never getting satisfaction unless they're "hollaring bloody murder from the rooftops over the least little thing" is laughable. You complain about EVERYTHING. Do I need to remind you of the HOURS of your bitching I listened to because I was too nice and felt bad for you because no one could stand your ass? Then when I finally stand up for myself and stop wasting my time helping you, pl'ing you, listening to you, being there for you, you continue your martyr act, oh poor pitiful Jeska someone else has wronged him/her. I'm so tired of you and your act. Do the people you spend your time with now know of all the shit you used to talk about them? Or do you just talk shit to them about the next people you're going to hang out with once these people drop you?

Dani, we've been nothing but nice to you. Tanth's words in the screen shot mean no disrespect, nor did my mobile AIM responses to your texts. In fact, Tanth apologized and said he'll make sure it doesn't happen again. I even said it was not intentional. What more can we do? I'm not going to step away from my meal (1 hour from my laptop) and drive home to deal with FF drama. I'm not going to excuse myself from the table for you or anyone else if FF as it's just rude to my brother and my family.

You're right. My apologies for bothering you while you were with family. It was rude.

I just hope we can keep this from happening again

 

[Davion]

-sighs-

...people wonder why I don't really care about end-game all that much....

 

[Lucki]

-sighs-

...people wonder why I don't really care about end-game all that much....

is it because you can't save 15% or more on car insurance?

 

[Davion]

is it because you can't save 15% or more on car insurance?

I cause I can live without that added drama over a few .DAT files

 

[Lanien]

Then GTFO.

Oh, aren't you a clever little shit.

 

[Blazeoffury]

Except you can tell everything you need to know about someone's character by the company he keeps. He's JDA, so he's scum. Were he at the incident, the outcomes would have been exactly the same. You don't join GayDA for reasons other than this...so yes, Audino was correct to point this out...Just like Ewhoremanwich was laughed out of here for complaining about a shell MPKing.

Except that JeanneDaArc did not have anything to do with the past incident. Way to lump people into a group again. You don't like JeannaDaArc because Serise is the most notorious MPKer on the server, big whoop. So hate Serise, leave the ones who weren't involved with it or anything of that nature alone.

I love how you base everyone in a group around your opinion of one person, shows the type of person you really are. I'm also wondering what "reasons" he joined "GayDA" (nice wordplay) for since he has never participated in a stealing of a mob, or in a MPK attempt. Keep being a stereotypical prick, at least you're having fun doing something.

P.S. about the "Ewhoremanwich" and his "lolmpkwarning" who cares. Eor wouldn't mpk, nor would he stay in the alliance if it were to MPK to this day (something you can't say of yourself).

As for myself, I won't deny I'll MPK for fun. Hell I remember MPKing a lot of integral @ Pallas when it first became a force pop. Not once did they bitch or complain or be ass-sore like you are from way back when. If Serise told me to MPK someone of another shell you better believe I'll be doing it (just like you allowed Godpoing to do). Keep on being a hypocritical little bitch, I'll admit what I'd do/have done in the past. I also won't condemn others for something I have done, too bad you can't say the same eh?

 

[Rari]

I am not posting to comment on the Dreams / Absolute situation. I am not involved. I am, however, involved in RidersOfRohan.

If they happened to run over when they were actually scheduled to be there at 5 that would be one thing. But they weren't. A few weeks ago Absolute moved a run to Sandy because we didn't have the numbers to do another zone. RoR was scheduled to enter at midnight but we could have gotten the time extension and run over into their time. Are you saying that would be ok? It's ok to be on someone else's time and they just have to deal with it? Why do we have a schedule at all if no one needs to adhere to posted times?

Dani/Absoulte,

While RidersOfRohan appreciates Absolute leaving in a timely manner, the above post implies several things. Those implications are:

-Absolute acknowledges the Dynamis schedule posted on QCDN.
-Observing said schedule, Absolute knew who would enter Dynamis-San d’Oria and when. (Using In-game communication hours before another shell’s run, in comparison to posting in advance on QCDN, as an attempt at justification, or putting forth effort, is as messed up as Hogan’s goat. Do not use it.)
-Absolute acknowledges it deviated from the posted schedule that they requested. The reason is not pertinent. Internal conflicts belong to that shell, not the FFXI community.
-Changing to another zone at the last moment results in a later entrance/exit time than what was scheduled.
-Absolute(Dani) acknowledges infringing upon another LS’s scheduled time is unjust.

By your own accord, if Absolute had stayed in a zone that they were not scheduled for in the first place, and encroached upon another LinkShell’s scheduled time, Absolute would have been in the wrong. Again, thank you for exiting before RidersOfRohan was to enter. But in the future, please adhere to the requests you are asking of other linkshells and reconsider Absolute’s options when making last minute changes.

RidersOfRohan respects the posted schedule and other shells’ time. It only asks for the same in return.

Not once did I say I have issues issue with schedule deviations. My issue was that no one checked the posted schedule to see that by continuing they'd be infringing on our time.

When we entered Sandy before RoR we were well aware of when you'd be entering and made every effort (successfully) to leave before you got in. If we'd have been in there at your start time I'd have been happy asking my people to drop their glasses. It's not your shells fault that we had to change. I told you we had the opportunity for another extention. You asked me not to because your shell was waiting. I said not to worry because we weren't. I saved that conversation if you'd like to see it. I apologized profusely for entering a zone we were not scheduled for even though I really didn't have to. We didn't keep you from entering on time at all. So, I'm glad you respect the posted schedule. We do too, which is why we checked it before making a change.

I have my own screen shots of that conversation too. Post yours if you wish. It matters not. I only asked to be polite and avoid conflict. You have brought this negative attention upon yourself.

You appear to be setting a double standard, Dani, and people here are not buying it. While I will not argue for or against your case against Dreams, Absolute’s presence in a zone that they did not sign up for is just as disrespectful of the schedule as you are accusing Dreams of being, if not more! And, just I wrote above, sending a tell hours before another shell is scheduled to enter a zone that Absolute decides to enter on a last minute whim, pales in comparison to posting weeks in advance on the forum. If you want others to give you the courtesy of notification through QCDN, then you need to do the same and stick to it. Wasn’t it you that questioned:

Why do we have a schedule at all if no one needs to adhere to posted times?

If you do not wish to play this discussion out again, I would suggest that next time Absolute changes their plan that they either pick a zone that a shell is about to leave or that will not be occupied at all later that evening. Or, even, just give your members the night off. (Being that you were lacking in numbers in the first place.)

I just hope we can keep this from happening again

Agreed. And coherent communication only helps expedite and strengthen the process. Run spell and grammar check before your next post.

 

[Jeska]

Hormiga or Dani or whatever guise you wannabe this week, relax and cool down and stick to the topic at hand please, your pitiful little outbursts only make yourself look more of a whiner and less of a reliable source for any kind of information here. I can play the hurt person of yesteryear if you wanna go that route but it has nothing to do with this topic at hand so grow up and stick to the facts please.