Footwork

Footwork: essentially makes MNK a 2h melee without the ability to see the returns a 2h melee gets from haste. Stupid.
 
Wanna try something fun with this? Grab a bunch of weak mobs and have them attack you while fighting something in campaign lol...

Seems like you gain 5tp per hit taken. Is that normal? Meh, someone check that out.
 
Bajaratt said:
Did another test comparing Junrenshi Habaki(+kick rate) vs. Dune Boots(+kick damage) on lesser colbiri. It was only 1 mob each and my parser's broken again, but Dune boots came out on top. Since I didn't have a parser, I just threw the numbers into Excel for the math.

Dune boots did an average of 174.5 damage per kick.
Junrenshi did an average of 116.9444 damage per kick.

I'm going to have to do a lot more testing(and get a working parser), and probably get the highest level of the +kick rate boots for a proper comparison; but based on a my limited test, Dune's are still better overall.
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i think the new kick attack feet mean that you kick more often, not for more dmg. i tried them out and it seemed like i was kickin more with them on.
 
kicamo said:
i think the new kick attack feet mean that you kick more often, not for more dmg. i tried them out and it seemed like i was kickin more with them on.
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They do, that's what I said in the post you quoted.
 
Bajaratt said:
Did another test comparing Junrenshi Habaki(+kick rate) vs. Dune Boots(+kick damage) on lesser colbiri. It was only 1 mob each and my parser's broken again, but Dune boots came out on top. Since I didn't have a parser, I just threw the numbers into Excel for the math.

Dune boots did an average of 174.5 damage per kick.
Junrenshi did an average of 116.9444 damage per kick.
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Why would you measure damage per kick using one thing that increase damage and the other increases rate, but completely leave out the rate increase? Of course Dune boots are going to win in the test of damage per kick. You would have to measure total damage from kicks on a monster to get something closer to accurate.
 
Makelith said:
Why would you measure damage per kick using one thing that increase damage and the other increases rate, but completely leave out the rate increase? Of course Dune boots are going to win in the test of damage per kick. You would have to measure total damage from kicks on a monster to get something closer to accurate.
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Because I was curious about the damage difference between the two, and since I didn't have a working parser, I wasn't going to type up an hour's worth of numbers to try to figure that crap out. The damage difference was significant enough(+50% damage is pretty huge) that the +rate boots would have to have a good bonus to them to overcome the damage.
 
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By my observations, it seems more so just something you'd: Footwork > Boost > WS > Cancel Footwork. TP Bonus, higher WS damage, possible a Ghetto "Barrage" for MNK? Eh, vetern MNKs been telling me its useless otherwise. \=
 
Genkaku said:
I only tested it on 2 mobs when I was messing around, *Note: I was watching my TP bar more than what I was doing* I landed an attack and got something ridiculous like 19%TP. The return on Asuran was pretty nice.

I liked it for the very small test I did. Need more parses.

Anyone noticed an increase in delay with footwork activated? or was I just imagining it.
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How much store TP do you have equiped, And how much store TP would be required to make it 20%. In a sense you could have a 5 hit setup.
 
Gohaan said:
How much store TP do you have equiped, And how much store TP would be required to make it 20%. In a sense you could have a 5 kick setup.
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From what I've been reading, Footwork is currently unaffected by any Haste or Store TP gear.
 
You can still counter; the usual Counter animation still applies.
You can Guard still; however, you do not Guard with feet.
Hundred Fists can still be used. During this time, you will use your fists.
As per regular fist attacks, when Kick Attacks activate, you will do your kick from Footwork, and then another kick from the Kick Attacks, resulting in two kicks.
Double Attack can also activate, resulting in three kicks in one round.
Base TP gained while Footwork is active is 13.1 TP per kick.
Zoning and KO causes Footwork to be lost.
TP bonus applies to initial two hits on Weaponskills as well.
TP return for weaponskills is 13.1 for the first two hits, and 3 for each consecutive hit.
Delay is modified by Haste spells and Haste equipment but Weapon delay has no impact on base delay.
Delay at level 75 with Martial Arts VI is 300, with the 60% slow penalty it turns to 480 delay which is 8 seconds. Haste gear and spell reduces the 60% penalty, full haste gear reduces penalty to 35% slow. Which is 405 delay -> 6.75 seconds.
A penalty will be imposed on magic, song, and ninjutsu casting while Footwork is in effect. This penalty is a 60% increase in casting time and recast time.
If you are moving and you are within attack range, you will throw one punch equal to the damage and TP as a normal footwork kick.
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Quoted from http://ffxi.wikia.com/wiki/Footwork

Haste does work, not sure about the store TP. I would assume it should
 
Gohaan said:
How much store TP do you have equiped, And how much store TP would be required to make it 20%. In a sense you could have a 5 hit setup.
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I dont wear Store TP on MNK....lol
 
And it was 19% tp return? Because if you add like 6 +store tp you can get 20% per kick making a true 5 hit setup... it would be insane
 
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Gohaan said:
And it was 19% tp return? Because if you add like 6 +store tp you can get 20% per kick making a true 5 hit setup... it would be insane
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I only took a quick look and thats what I saw it go up by. I cant prove it unless I do more testing. In my OP I posted I was watching the TP bar, so it could have been a dbl att or something.

Needs more testing.
 
I took a bigger look at it. Wikkia says its a base 13.1 % just off of the delay, But SE said that it gets a TP bonus. My guess would be like 5% so your 19% wouldnt be to far off.
 
Hmmm. Could explain why I thought my TP gain was through the roof.

I'll dick around with it some more. This has my interests.
 
Yes please do lol. I would myself but ya. Cant use my account.
 
Gohaan said:
And it was 19% tp return? Because if you add like 6 +store tp you can get 20% per kick making a true 5 hit setup... it would be insane
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Too bad MNK weaponskills blow ><
 
Also, Staff MNKs who know they are are doing are awesome. I think i was with Eormanric and i saw him beating the shit out of things with a staff while on MNK. Would be cool to see MNK/SAM and all the new abilitys
 
Kelyon said:
Also, Staff MNKs who know they are are doing are awesome. I think i was with Eormanric and i saw him beating the shit out of things with a staff while on MNK. Would be cool to see MNK/SAM and all the new abilitys
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In exchange for a penalty to attack delay and to spell timers, the monk receives an increase to damage and attack power, as well as a bonus to the amount of TP gained per kick. The monk must have a hand-to-hand weapon equipped to receive these bonuses.
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The new ability will make a staff MNK pre update the same as staff MNK post update
 
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