Well using the "thats just how she is so its ok" approach doesn't leave any room for improvement now does it? You, Tag, seem to be ignoring the part where she claimed to not have the information and then passed his items back with a guilt trip attatched of continually saying "these are mine" repeatedly in some way, until ADMITTING TO LYING that took them. Thats not wrong? Wierd...
Kari, you completely whiffed on my meaning when I say that's how Mish is.
I was referring to the way she responded to the topic, NOT what she did. Aka people saying that her angry response made her more guilty, etc. Mish is fairly hot headed and there's no way she'd keep a level head after reading an OP like that.
Mish took a couple items, because she was under the impression Neo gave her permission to do so (which he actually, as far as I've noted, has yet to deny) on the pretense that she would tell him about it as soon as she was able to. In this case, he logged on, saw some items were missing, and he immediately freaked; the first thing he said to her was "I've been robbed", basically, and with no explanation. She didn't want him to freak so she was planning, originally, on slipping the handful of items back because she
panicked (something a person like her is liable to do - i know, i'd probably do about the same thing). I'm not saying it was the
right thing to do, but that's her side of the story. Then Neo went into accusations mode and she caved, because she
isn't a bad person and couldn't keep up the ruse while being attacked by someone she thought was a close friend. I know I didn't quite word that right but that's the best I can do right now
So while your busy defending a friend learn that people will realize you are a friend first and looking at facts second. ---Which is completely understandable as having a friend by your side through good times and bad are very noble things to do and everyone should have someone like that.--- But those facts you are looking at secondly will be her version. Then, maybe, you'll take in a little of the other story but completely disregard points made that you can't hold argument to.
I've heard both sides and taken in both. Where have I disregarded points made from Neo's side? Point them out to me and I'll counter them. If I missed any, it was oversight.
To Mish, pure and simple, you say you valued the friendship and then pass down a guilt sentence to make him feel bad accusing him of not doing so. But he obviously did to trust you with the information. And you obviously didn't to lie to him. Whether you gave it back or not, you still did indeed lie to him.
She panicked because he immediately jumped into "I've been robbed" with no further explanation. She just wanted to fix the immediate concern (items = gone). While I agree she definitely didn't handle the situation well at all, that doesn't make her a thief.
I'm sure he did say borrow an item if you like but please tell me. I don't doubt that at all. But if that is so why pretend like you didn't have them? If you loaned them out without asking to someone else, that was wrong. If you had planned on keeping them and then had a strike of moral grief and returned them, thats very noble, but still wrong in the first place. I'm just trying to figure out not his side, not your side, as sides are pointless. The only thing that matters is what really happened. But its usually one person that has to twist and turn things until they aren't in the wrong anymore, and both people look like liars.
The person who usually has to twist and turn things is the second person to speak, because everyone hears the first person's story first and is most inclined to believe that story.
Even moreso when the first person to speak is very popular and the second... not so much so. Add to that Mish's characteristic hot-headed response...
Rappa: I'm here because I consider Mish a friend and I see her in distress, with the first thing I see in this thread being two pages of "oh god I knew she was such a devious bitch!" and posts to that effect. What do you expect me to do? Pick up a pitchfork? Mish is NOT a thief. She didn't do the right thing, but neither did Neo. I'm going to defend my friend, and I'm sorry that you think I'm wrong to do so, especially when nobody else seems willing to do so and would rather assault her without even considering an opinion other than "she's a lying, cheating whore & thief".
edit: lol, after Zyn's post I might as well delete this one, she put it much better than I did. I don't usually delete what I post though so I'll leave it anyway.
