"Friends"

Actually...Rones, I hafto disagree. Maybe in a God or HNM LS, a Hello may be shrug-offable because it's a "business" sortof setting. But when it comes to friends and social LS, I would very much appreciate a returned hello. If someone says it to you in staight /tell, you'd more likely than not say hello back, right? I don't see why someone saying it in LS is any different asides the fact that it may not be directed straight towards you, and not welcoming them simply because of that is sortof selfish.
 
souj- your post was really pointless on the affinity boards, "why don't we thinkg about our feelings? maybe if we hope hard enough things will work out" it had absolutely no content and offered no way of fixing problems all while venting anger to payge and andreas. passive aggressive 4tw

the clique's in the ls, you are just as guilty as anyone. the sumer souj phishn love triangle was rediculous.

ekin's osode/gear- after proclaiming blm as his main job literally less than a week after getting haidate and osode. yeah he earned it, but if you are going to be playing a job that can't use the shit why did you accept it? that was what the leaders were asking about. it makes no sense to get gear for people if they won't use it and just let it decorate their mannequins. there was no strongarming him out of the shell. the way i see it people are looking for reasons to leave, and this case facts are getting twisted around horribly.

your osode- no one is asking about getting it. honestly how the hell did you come up with that idea?

you and sumer in general- you bitched about policies for things you weren't even involved in. for fucks sake you ran limbus with a different HNM shell altogether.

as far as the airship fight, yeah i was being a prick that week. keep in mind i was blatently left behind by the group i was doing missions with, the same group who i would redo missions to keep people up to date on.

reya/reasvelg- from what i know of your very very short involvement with affinity. it was something like reas was let in and reya was in another shell, both of you have access to each others accounts, which brings up security issues on ToD and whatnot. one of the leaders asked if it was going to be a problem and it was said not, apparently the other logged in later that night and it was seen as a potential problem and you were removed. so please just stop talking about the affinity shit you really don't have a part in it.
 
Mishaela said:
Actually...Rones, I hafto disagree. Maybe in a God or HNM LS, a Hello may be shrug-offable because it's a "business" sortof setting. But when it comes to friends and social LS, I would very much appreciate a returned hello. If someone says it to you in staight /tell, you'd more likely than not say hello back, right? I don't see why someone saying it in LS is any different asides the fact that it may not be directed straight towards you, and not welcoming them simply because of that is sortof selfish.
But what's the point? The statement loses all meaning when you consider most large ls have someone logging in or out every 5mins. That's 12 hello/goodbye an hour. Considering most people stay on 4-5 hours, that's 48-60 hello/goodbyes everyday you play. That gets old fast. If you have something of content to say, go for it, but just walking in, saying hello, and then staring at each other...is silly. Heck, make a one liner joke, start a conversation, but don't spam with (|Hello!|) followed by 4-5 ls responses. I get enough of that spam from the party members who need a /p macro for every button press.
 
foofighter- as far as i'm concerned you are dead to me, i really wish i didn't make dusk gloves for you, you shafted the ls on the behemoth hide. from what i understand you only paid for half of it then left. must be why you didn't ask about your share from the bank. also please get the fuck out of the affinity forums for your dynamis ls. if it isn't affiliated with affinity anymore why are you using our boards still?

Bdf not sure what I did to you but I'm sorry you don't know the whole story. I sent Ols a pm regarding this situation and getting my cursed togi uncursed and never got a response. One of your leaders has access to my account and if gil was that big of an issue Orestes can always get on my account and apay back Affinity.
The reasons I left Affinity are much different then most of these peoples. I gave 100% to you guys including telling everyone to give you wyvern skins we happened to get in the rivernes. I let people borrow my Osode for weeks at a time I gave people money and gear. Did CoP missions for every single one of you guys. Kept sky farming alive during CoP pushes.
I noticed low moral right away because I was so active and for awhile people looked to me to lead most of the time.
I would make the schedule on the webiste and would ask Pauk or Payge to review it and got no response. I asked for a discussion with the leaders in the administrative forum and Orestes was the only one to respond. I asked many questions on the direction of the shell only to be ignored by everyone. I asked about raising the amount of given to uncurse stuff only to be ignored. Hell, I could have taken over Affinity. Scheduled anything I wanted and people would have followed. No way in hell I wanted to do that and no way in hell did I want to lead a shell. I even turn down any leadership or responsibilty in Seashell. I was told by a few people that left Affinity and went to Seashell that I should sign on and talk to everyone for moral.
If anything I was and still am loyal to Affinity. 1/2 the shell wanted me to just leave and make a new sky/hnm shell and for me to lead and I said I couldn't do that to Affinity.
I would have stayed with Affinity if it wasn't for the actions of 1 person who is labeled a leader but has no freaking idea on how to lead or to want people to follow. When we are threatened with a linkshell break when moral is low that is enough for me to put me over the edge. If one of the leaders would have responded to me and told me to get Affinity right again I would have been able to I think, but I got no support. When the question comes up "Who leads this shell?" and more than 1 person says Foofighter then I was overstepping my bounds and actually I prefer to be in FlyingFish over any shell right now, but will help Duff with Sea as best I can.
I apologize to anyone in Affinity, including you Bdf whom I have a ton of respect for, but I needed to leave.
~Foofighter
 
bigdumbface said:
reya/reasvelg- from what i know of your very very short involvement with affinity. it was something like reas was let in and reya was in another shell, both of you have access to each others accounts, which brings up security issues on ToD and whatnot. one of the leaders asked if it was going to be a problem and it was said not, apparently the other logged in later that night and it was seen as a potential problem and you were removed. so please just stop talking about the affinity shit you really don't have a part in it.

I wasn't going to post on this, but you dragged me into it.

What actually happened was this: When I was accepted to Affinity, Pauk brought up the fact that Reya was at the time in NH. He asked if that was going to be an issue, I said no.

The next day, Reya happened to come over when I was logging in, and she borrowed my keyboard for a second to say Hi to the people she knew in Affinity. And 30 seconds later, Pauk kicked me.

Reya can't log into my account. I can't log into hers. We don't share that info. At no time were we discussing ToDs when she decided to say hi, I made sure of that before I let her use the keyboard. Hence, it was not an issue.

What truly irritated me about the whole situation wasn't that I was kicked, although that upset Reya greatly, but that Pauk's response was "It's not that we don't trust you." Bull-fucking-shit. It's PRECISELY that you didn't trust me, and that's offensive. I've sat on ToDs and kept my mouth shut with my friends for crying out loud, refusing to share them with people I spend every other day with IRL on the sole grounds that the ToD was given to me under the misconception that I was solo camping a mob. So don't talk to me about trust, and don't talk to me about how I got kicked, you didn't have a part in it.
 
bigdumbface said:
reya/reasvelg- from what i know of your very very short involvement with affinity. it was something like reas was let in and reya was in another shell, both of you have access to each others accounts, which brings up security issues on ToD and whatnot. one of the leaders asked if it was going to be a problem and it was said not, apparently the other logged in later that night and it was seen as a potential problem and you were removed. so please just stop talking about the affinity shit you really don't have a part in it.

Wrong Wrong Wrong

I don't have access to Raesvelg's account and he doesn't mine. We both take late game seriously and yes, Raesvelg helped out several times to camp HNMs with me in with NH and didn't once leak a ToD. Don't fucking label me before knowing who I am. You can ask any other person I have played with in this game on every aspect. Don't talk shit about us not knowing the whole story.
 
bigdumbface said:
where to start? i'm actually really happy that the people who left are gone. the ls is free of the tensions from what i can see. In fact i would say that the problems we had in shell are pretty cleared up now cause of the people leaving.

1st kirin- points system clearly payge deserved it, she traded all her points for it, no one else had enough to outlot her for it. end of story. oh wait i remember sumer throwing a shit fit because she felt more deserving. result ditching the point system, ols stepping down as leader and underlying drama between payge and sumer elevated.

"long" periods of time with no HNM- bullshit we took down HNM frequently as long as i've been around in the shell (back in the TS days). there are periods of time where the ls focuses more on different things however and we don't get to HNM as much.

gods- we were a very successful shell we took down gods very regularly and multiple times a week this past summer and fall. it wasn't until there was a large part of the ls that wanted to get sea asap that we had a major slowdown in sky.

jedimind has it right on, the leaders have done as much as they can to please people who ultimately couldn't be pleased. we need more gods, so we focused on sky and did a few rounds of gods, people must have gotten bored cause it turned into lets do sea. in the process the people who don't have sea get left out (isn't that what you are bitching about lavi?), so they decide to focus in on missions for people.

limbus- i'd say we were successful here as well, lead by ishmaell who has done a fantastic job by the way. for the people who were bitching about the lack of sea content, isn't limbus enough for now? without the majority of the ls with sea access not a whole lot you can do anyways. too bad you left right as we had another big wave of people close to sea, we could have made a good dent in the sea gods.

lsbank- it got big a fat over the last few months. the people who left asked about it and asked for their share. WTF we have never paid people to do sky, why start now, especially since it was their choice to leave and it was clear they were leaving before even asking. for someone who bitches about changing the rules you seemed to have taken your share pretty quick lavi. oh and didn't we BUY you your nobles? oh yeah thats something that neophytal threw a shitfit over too. people worried about the bank and money from it, lame lame lame. i'm glad you left.

foofighter- as far as i'm concerned you are dead to me, i really wish i didn't make dusk gloves for you, you shafted the ls on the behemoth hide. from what i understand you only paid for half of it then left. must be why you didn't ask about your share from the bank. also please get the fuck out of the affinity forums for your dynamis ls. if it isn't affiliated with affinity anymore why are you using our boards still?

duffdeliveryguy- fuck you, grass is greener somewhere else so you are just going to shell hop around until you get what you want. this guy has a history of doing this. stuck around in ESP until he got his osode then outta there. i remember this cause he was buggin the shit out of me to get into affinity during this time. you also did something similar with dynamis ls's. i wish nothing but failure to you in the future.

sirelrohir- another example of the people better off gone. shitty pld, picky as hell and high maintenance. starts a KS30 run and asks anyone if they want to use orbs, i sent a tell to him saying i wanted in. then he realizes i don't have blm leveled, basically says you aren't welcome cause he thought i was blm. then when we get shafted by drops he sends me tells about distribution even though they totalled up to maybe 200k tops after we agreed it wasn't enough to really spread around the night before.

hronorigger- only person i know who will charge ls members to make money for him. gogo ks30 runs. just quit now i think your mom is about to pull the plug on you anyways.

there is more to say but i'm gonna hold off for now.

affinity is building again and we are heading in the right direction. people like lavi are gone now. you won't see bitching about not knowing whats going on because you weren't logged in the shell anymore. lavi seems to have a history of being a bitch anyways. there is also a rumor that lavi is really a dude pretending to be a woman too... hmmm

aww, bdf's pussy is sore..
 
Gagne said:
Wow souj, i never had anything against you.

who? what? You know it wasnt ols ; ;, payge never bought anything, pauk has 95 smithing or someshit like that, and atiba is never on. so who is getting this 60 mil in gear? At the time when everyone was wondering where the gil was i knew exactly where it was. If anyone would take some time to look, Payge's bazzar was loaded with Behemouth hides, Scorpoin Harnesses, and Dragon talons. They were all priced to sell. Its not like she planned on stealing it, You were all just too ignorant to look in front of you.


What you dont see is duff instigating like a ass hole, lavi conviently blurred out his /tells, and cut it short on his ls chat, and he was being one hellova dick in ls chat to those who didnt see it.


I NEVER said i didnt do it. Your bitch wife accused me of it, and i told her "Why would i want to see the ls go to shit when i just got fucked on W legs" or something along those lines. Yes i did rat phishn out, so fuckin what... when people start talking shit like that about my friends, im gonna let them know. they are friends. But i never told anyone i didnt do it. I used my words carefully and avoided answering her, but never said that.... I guess me telling payge was my way of trying to get rid of the headaches, drama, and tension that around. It definately worked.

Dude you are a fucking lier. I asked your ass why you told payge, and you told me that you didnt. I actually thought i had a ss of that conversation, but sadly i dont. You know what? Fuck you man. Ever since you tried to call me out for getting w. legs my opinion of you has been low.

This bitch posts on the affinity site something to the extent of 'why did sire get w. legs when he's always on blm'. Heres the thing, outside of ls events, I am always on blm b/c it is easier for me to travel. I can tele and warp as needed. Contrary to what bdf said (and ill go more in depth in a few) I am a damn fine pld. When it came to ls events, i would go as what the leaders wanted me to go as, whether it was pld or blm. If you dont believe me, ask payge or pauk (this assuming they dont become vindictive and lie).

As for bdf.. dude, go fuck yourself. I never had a problem w/ you, but now i do. He left out alot of things tryin to make me look bad. Things such as that the orb i asked him to split was his second orb of the nite, and we let him keep everything from the first orb. He also left out the fact that a non ls person was helping and i thought it would be a good idea to give her somethin for her time. If he didnt want to use his second orb he didnt have to. He actually said somethin like: well, the seals are just gonna sit there so i might as well. And if i'm such a greedy asshole, how come i helped you w/ the pots for CoP (free of charge, i might add).

I could care less about the gil from the ls bank. However, I didnt want certain leaders to pull an enron on us. When leaders start acting all shady, and it looks like shit is about to hit the fan, then damn right i am going to question what is goin on.

This is the type of thing that happened pertaining to payges leadership skills. We had a full alliance up at MG one day. No one around, nothing going on. instead of fighting it, payge said to wait. so we waited and waited... finally, perservance starts showing up. people are like, they are coming we need to pull.. payge says 'wait'. next thing u know, perserverance pulls mg and kills it.

My advice to people, dont let your gf/bf be leader just b/c of their personal relation to you. Make sure you get people that are qualified.
 
Finally we get down to the nitty-gritty parts, the farewell fuck you's. Had Affinity been the shell it wanted to be, it would have worked passed this point and moved on. I can say with clear conscience and sound mind that they have not. I presented you with the problems of the LS more than a month ago and where did that get the shell? Turmoil. It's easy to place the blame of the problems on a few members who openly speak of them instead of shouldering the responsibility and working passed them. No one person was to blame for the breakdown of the shell and I can say whole heartedly that I am also partly to blame, but I will be damned if you pass of the problems of the shell entirely on my shoulders.

I can honestly say my work in posting this has done more for that shell than any so-called leader. You ignored your members, good people who have been with the shell for over a year, and chose to pass the blame onto them. This I cannot ignore. You tell me your shell is fine and dandy, but it seems like some people are leaving and quitting, so how can you tell me straight faced that everything is fine? A simple Flame board thread shouldn’t make a person leave unless there is simply more to it.

Leadership makes a shell stronger. Leadership can strengthen good players and make them better, it can even make bad players good, but Affinity just didn’t have that. It’s true we had sound tactics and skilled players, but there is more to the game than that. You have to have leaders willing to work for the greater good and we didn’t have that anymore. There were maybe 1-2 people in there trying work to improve the shell that I could consider leaders, but all their effort is in vain when the “real” leadership of the shell is out to sabotage what’s left of it.

<Payge> I’m about to start some shit though

You can honestly tell me this is the type of leader you want? I am telling you it’s not what you want, need nor should ever have to put up with. She had the ill intentions of kicking and forcing members out of the shell with solid proof of it provided by Payge herself and yet you still refuse to believe the truth. This isn’t the shell anyone signed up for especially not me. When I joined Atiba made the decisions and although I cannot say he was an exceptional leader, he was still a decent guy. I can safely say neither about Payge, I have lost all respect for her as a person. She has no leadership qualities beyond possessing a pearlsack and when it came down to it, instead trying to come to a resolution about the shell, she chose to start her little quarrels. She knew what she was doing as I know what I am doing with this thread. If you haven’t guessed it by now, my intentions are the same as hers were then; I intend to destroy what’s left of the shell and make myself a little bit happier. Well not entirely, I just want Payge gone as she deserves nothing less.

Now, where do you go from here as a shell? I’m going start with the members who have posted here and pointed the fingers. You are all looking in the wrong places. You want this to go away and quickly? I suggest you start looking inward and not outward. The insults and the attacks, they do nothing to make your shell any better, so why then? Granted I have thrown some insults, but those people have earned my contempt and deserve far worse. For once, I suggest you actually look at what I posted and consider it. Stop trying to ignore the members of the shell and do what needs to be done for the greater good of the shell and not just for you.

Start with sky, it’s where we started and it’s where you should begin. Begin to farm on a regular basis; get everyone to be active and participate and not just the few who are really helpful, but everyone. Do gods when everyone can come and not just you. As of late Pauk had the tendency to pop gods when only a few people could make it which is unfair to EVERYONE no matter how you look at it. You may think it rewards those who came to farm, but a lot of those farmers had to leave just before you popped or could only come for a short periods of farming and you are wasting drops. Although I am very thankful for my E.Head and M.Hands, but it will be awhile before I can ever equip them and there are several people who deserved it as well as could have used it now. Quite ironic, you kick Ekin because he got an Osode he might not use often, but WILL use and yet you hand out items I cannot even use without even a thought of it being a waste.

Stop wasting people’s time. This was always the biggest pet-peeve of mine and I am sure it didn’t help the shell at all. When we did anything, leadership was extremely indecisive and 30 mins would pass by before anything would be done. Put that time to good use. I know people are still arriving and possibly more people are needed to farm, but as long as there is a tank, a DD and a healer, you can always farm something in sky. Get a water, it is the simplest thing and barely takes a party to get. Camp Ullikummi, a RDM can solo him (well not all RDM can, but he is that simple). Whatever, but don’t sit there and make sky into a guaranteed skill up party in the entrance like you have been doing. It’s a waste and that’s not what your members joined for.

Most of all just do it. The LS is failing because nothing ever happened. You’d invite new people to the shell because you all had great big plans, but once you realized you neither had the time, effort nor the patience to actually lead the shell to do something great, those that joined left after getting a few random items. Of course you bash those ex-members for leaving after they get those items, but how can you blame them? You lured them into a LS with promises and goals that really were never going to get accomplished so why the hell should they stay? So they can waste away in a shell that was supposed to provide them with everything and yet provides them with nothing? We were supposed to be doing at least 1 HNM per day, but we haven’t touched a HNM for a very long time. We did maybe a couple of Cemetary Cherries, but since we killed KB many months ago, the shell has been devoid of any action.

I am neither your leader nor your problem. I have since left Affinity because I like many others were no longer welcome so fixing your shell is entirely left in your own hands. Whether you can accomplish the task and work passed this is up to you if you chose to continue; however, as a member of the Quetzacoatl community, I cannot stand by while you treat people like shit and expect to gain new members when you cannot even take care of the members you currently have. They deserve some fair warning of what they are about to join and I am giving them that opportunity. If you really want me to stop this, then you must present me with at least some evidence of change, some evidence of improvement, but until then, I stand on my position that Affinity is a bad choice for an end game shell.
 
duff- end of your last post is innaproppriate and shows your character. leaving linkshells is suspect in my book, you have done it 3 times now so yes that does make you a shell hopper.

as for what you said on limbus, i can't say anything for payge or andreas but 1st earring and 1 af+1 left because of the bullshit you started with making a new shell, don't even try to make it sound like they were ditching on their friend ish, this was more because we can't stand doing shit with you and that group of people anymore.

the leaders were very busy dealing with shit in real life, people stepped up to fill the void, others chose to bombard them with bitchy tells. you of all people should talk about fucking friends over, i have known you for a hell of a long time. remember when we camped your jujitsu gi? yep i was gonna give that shit up if it ever dropped for us. i helped get you into affinity. and now you rip it apart, good job.

foo- i knew the story, don't start with that bs about me being out of the loop. gil is not the issue with the hide, it was more of what you promised and what you didn't do, very bad taste to assume you pay half and then leave and act like everything is cool.

you did give it 100% in sky but keep in mind you were compensated with all the gears you obtained. you have the most sky gear out of anyone i know.

you had a sack, you had a voice, you had respect. you even scheduled events on the website, how are you not a leader? in fact i remember you saying how you and pauk were stepping up to lead the ls. then at the drop of a hat you leave and move to seashell. a leader who quits on his people will not raise the morale, get off your horse.

on and ending note, thanks for your help, thanks for the skins, but i still feel your actions outweigh your generosity.

reya/reas- my point still stands. it was promised it wouldn't be a problem, then you showed otherwise within 24 hours you showed otherwise. when we asked if it was going to be a problem it pretty much meant reya shouldn't be talking in lschat if she doesn't have a pearl. i really don't know you. i'm not talking shit, not judging your character as a person. i wasn't going to say anything about this either i just wanted to set you straight after reya's little comment at the start of the thread.

sirel- "aww, bdf's pussy is sore.." nice...

you were a shitty pld on everything i saw you do as pld, my comment still holds. ks30 run, it was 200k total from both runs thats a waste of time to distribute. i offered the non ls blm a tip which she declined, where's the problem?

pots bc, thanks for the help, its something that you do with and for ls members

lavi- why the smear campaign? do you want me to follow seashell around so i can trash you at every corner? i don't blame payge for reaching a breaking point, she took shit from so many people in tells for months.

you have had problems in this shell for as long as i can remember, you knew people didn't like you and yet you stuck around, you had problems with the way things were done yet you stuck around. thanks for leaving its nicer without you.

you were not logged into the shell for the better part of the last 6 months, why do you think you know everything that went on? i suggest anyone else to take her posts with a grain of salt.

ekin left on his own, he was not kicked.

i'm glad you didn't have the initiative to make things better for the linkshell, its much easier to stay around and then blow up and spread shit after the fact isn't it.

for you information payge atiba and olsmugla are no longer playing ffxi

cheers
-bdf
 
BDF, the problem is this. You are a liar. I did not tell you to divide both orbs. And both orbs were not worth a total of 200k. And if you had issues at the time, you certainly did not voice them. In fact, like i said, you were the one that volunteered your seals after u did one orb. Are u trying to say u wanted us to wait at your beck and call, when u already used an orb? and another thing, in your original post, you made it seem like i didnt want you to go at all. if that was the case, how did u end up going? yes, i was looking for blm. but guess what, i was setting up a manaburn. It was for people that were/are my friends. Thats why i didnt charge for your first orb. most people would agree you got a better deal other then settin up a run for yourself.

As for what your opinion of my pld skills, well, I could say the same about you. In fact I will. BDF is the shittiest pld i have ever seen. Doesnt really mean much does it? Except for one thing, you being the alcoholic you are, have had your judgement impaired while playing. It obviously shows b/c you percieve one of the better pld in the game as being the worst. What im tryin to say is that your whole perception of everything is most likely enveloped in a haze of drunken stupidity. Then again that stupidity might be genetic. Why dont you go to an AA meeting and get yourself some help.

As for helping out people in the ls, well, of course i do... go figure i try to help people... the horror. But ill tell you something, if i had known that you were this type of person, I would have let you rot. And im not the only one. You have flamed pretty much everyone that helped you w/ sea, yet the people that ignored you, your all over their cock.. no wonder your pussy is sore.
 
bigdumbface said:
lavi- why the smear campaign? do you want me to follow seashell around so i can trash you at every corner? i don't blame payge for reaching a breaking point, she took shit from so many people in tells for months.

you have had problems in this shell for as long as i can remember, you knew people didn't like you and yet you stuck around, you had problems with the way things were done yet you stuck around. thanks for leaving its nicer without you.

you were not logged into the shell for the better part of the last 6 months, why do you think you know everything that went on? i suggest anyone else to take her posts with a grain of salt.

So we've stooped to this level? Try to insult and drudge up any form of dirt to discredit me? Let's start at the very beginning, I made this very clear and stated multiple times: My goal is the same as Payge's. I wish to make her stay in Affinity uncormfortable to the point she is forced to leave solely for the shear pleasure it gives me. She felt the need to make Affinity uninhabitable by half it's members, so I will do the same.

She took shit from people for 6 months? She certainly didn't say anything about it or make any of it known, but if even if that's true, it's the burden of being a leader. She had every choice to step down as leader and even now, she still retains that choice. She refused to even though she is only leader by title and still retains it solely to abuse it. That's not a leader, that's an asshole.

Problems in Affinity? I don't ever remember having any problems besides the ones I stated. No one made any remarks to me and everyone for the most part was kind to me. It wasn't until after I left Affinity that I noticed people that were once "friends" become nothing more than spiteful at me, but why? Because I was the problem with Affinity? Somehow my leaving is going to make the shell more active? You are actually do gods and HNMs instead of pretending you actually do gods and HNMs?

I have been in the shell every single time I played. I have said "hi", I've asked what were were going to be doing if anything for the day, and I visited the forum often. I've contributed a lot of posts to make the shell more active. I made posts on how to do every single uncapped ENM, how to do all KS99 runs just so I could spark any sort of interest in the shell. Nothing. Most of the time I asked what we would be doing for the day, it was usually nothing. I mean nothing. Seriously, answer me this; why are you recruiting if you cannot even make good on your promises? You have no leadership. You have no direction. You have no organization. So how do you expect to be an end game LS if you cannot even function as an end game LS? What is Payge finally gonna do something besides going afk in Tavnazian Safehold?

Again, no one deserves to join a shell that will waste their time and effort (mostly really time because you won't be doing much of anything with Affinity). I am giving everyone fair warning as they deserve as much. You want to paint the picture Affinity is a great shell and perhaps from your perspective it is, but at that same token, they should know it from mine as well. They have every right to know what they are about to get into before they get into it.

So go ahead, if you wish to take what I said with a grain of salt and believe what bdf tells you, then fine, join Affinity. But make no mistake about it, I gave you fair warning that they have done nothing to improve themselves as an end game shell and I know this for a fact so don't expect any sympathy from me.
 
bigdumbface said:
for you information payge atiba and olsmugla are no longer playing ffxi

cheers
-bdf

lol @fishbotting
 
lavi you are not in the shell anymore, you do not know who the leaders are now, please stop it.

people heard you, all 10 times, affinity is going to waste your time, don't join, we got it, now please go on with your new LS our LS will rebuild with new leaders and we will go on, anyone who is doubtful of what potiential we have, /examine any old affinity member, hell lavi you got your nobles from that shell. and foo has full god set, souj has most of a set, w/e we did what we did, we will do what we do, i wish you the best of luck in what you do.

it has been stated several times payge is no longer with us so if your intent was to get her to quit, you won, you win, you are successful you can stop now.

Thank you, please let this shit die now. we are going on we are going forward we do have new members, new rules new things planned, stop being a bitch and trying to ruin that.
 
Affinity seems really bitter and almost suspiciously over anxious to silence people. Of course, their efforts are counter productive as the members like to respond, thus bumpng the topic, which in turn, causes others to respond, bumping the topic yet again. It's kinda fun to watch people dig their own graves.
 
Sirelrohir said:
As for what your opinion of my pld skills, well, I could say the same about you. In fact I will. BDF is the shittiest pld i have ever seen. Doesnt really mean much does it?

LOL

Son, BDF plays better drunk than you could ever hope to sober. I hate to swoop in on the friend defense, but it seems like you're the one with sand in his vagina, not the other way around. Maybe you should go douche.
 
My goal is the same as Payge's. I wish to make her stay in Affinity uncormfortable to the point she is forced to leave solely for the shear pleasure it gives me.
congrats, she quit the game the other day, are you happy now?
 
Ummmm isnt Sirelrohir one of if not the first NA Pld thru cop? From what I have heard he made it thru Cop with out a ninja to tank battles like airship for him. Didnt BDF do like 10 airship battles and with ninja tanking for him? BDF was probably not on when sirel did all that cause he doesnt really play much. Seems ppl left in Affinity are the ones that arent online as much and because of that they were not the ppl that helped out with stuff or did much cept show up to scheduled events. Wonder what the ppl who left are doing? Affinity still do sky or cop missions or hmn or emn for the ENTIRE LS? Cause if you do search looks like the ppl that left are the ones "doing what they do", they are moving on, I wonder how many ppl completed cop in the new shell just this last week, or how many missions got done for ppl...
Sucks to loose the ppl that actually helped everyone i bet you didnt realize that when u started to shit on ppl. All I have to say is this, what goes around comes around. Not all the ppl playing this game are under 16. If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...
 
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