Gear Question

Xzerper said:
I would say most of this is great, with a few modifications added to it.

As I know, currently the entire Yigit set is one of -thee- best HMP gearsets you can find. Not to mention it is free.

I do not have the information on me currently so I'll try to make an estimate.
Just be reminded, BLM is not a job like SMN, where you stack massive MP to compensate for your MP if you require/wish more MP on your overall character.

Thats why you invest in a HMP Gearset, to provide the fastest MP regeneration possible, when you're close, or completely out of MP(Should hopefully never happen.)

Here is a list of what I currently use. Provides you with a +26 HMP Gearset, not including the 1mp/tic Auto Refresh you obtain from the entire set, which converts to roughly +5~+6 HMP a tic(per 10 sec after the initial 20 tic starter which provides you no MP regen).

This is not including Melon Pie +1(+2? or 3? HMP), however I prefer Cream Puffs over Melon Pie, which is a straight +7INT over a +20~30MP and 2 HMP and 5 INT..I may be wrong on the stats.

Pluto's Staff +10
Yigit Gomleck +5
Yigit Turban +1
Yigit Gages +0
Yigit Seraweels +2
Yigit Crackows +0
Quqirin Sash +1 +3
Relaxing Earring +2
Insomnia Earring +1
Beak Necklace+1 +2

Jet Seraweels are the alternative choice for people who are biased against having -stats equipment, so if you wish +1INT more over no negitive -VIT(Main factor on Mahatma), then by all means do it. If you want to have the best, then Mahatma is the better alternative, and seems cheaper than Jet at times.

Of course Morrigains will beat any of these, with a whopping 10 MND and INT with MP and HP? Possibly -emnity as well, with no sacrifice to -stats at all.
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Expecting SOMEONE to appear and paste the whole Hmp chart again. *wait for omniyoji to appear*

Personally, I do not see what wrong with negatives stats for BLM. BLM need only INT and MND when they are nuking, why would you even bother if your - VIT or - STR or - AGI. Personally a good BLM should nuke and not get hate and even if they get hate, this litte -VIT is not going to help them survive or - AGI will help them parry. However MND gear for stoneskin is VERY IMPORTANT. If I did not remember wrongly, it capped at 114 MND for BLM but i got a 116 for it though.

Xzerper said:
I know alot of people who play jobs such as SAM who prefer AF1+1 Hands, and other items, over Alky Bracelets, even tho the Alky is 'considerably' better - comments of some SAMs.
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Hi I am the SAM. Please check under the SAM pages has there is a Big hoo haa going on a few days. The people who advocate Sam AF hands +1 wanted the xtra 7 acc and the increase chance of critical hit. On the other side of the arguement, they argued that SAM YGK cannot critical AT ALL which meant the af+1 only give the effect of acc.

Personally even if it does critical, I will still go for Alky because I am a firm believer for constant damage > spike damage and SAM dont need that 7 accuracy during ws. Possibly I am a tarutaru too which is why i want higher STR too.
 
Over short periods of time, refresh wins over HMP, not if you are resting for a full pool though right?
 
Hach said:
Expecting SOMEONE to appear and paste the whole Hmp chart again. *wait for omniyoji to appear*

Personally, I do not see what wrong with negatives stats for BLM. BLM need only INT and MND when they are nuking, why would you even bother if your - VIT or - STR or - AGI. Personally a good BLM should nuke and not get hate and even if they get hate, this litte -VIT is not going to help them survive or - AGI will help them parry. However MND gear for stoneskin is VERY IMPORTANT. If I did not remember wrongly, it capped at 114 MND for BLM but i got a 116 for it though.

Hi I am the SAM. Please check under the SAM pages has there is a Big hoo haa going on a few days. The people who advocate Sam AF hands +1 wanted the xtra 7 acc and the increase chance of critical hit. On the other side of the arguement, they argued that SAM YGK cannot critical AT ALL which meant the af+1 only give the effect of acc.

Personally even if it does critical, I will still go for Alky because I am a firm believer for constant damage > spike damage and SAM dont need that 7 accuracy during ws. Possibly I am a tarutaru too which is why i want higher STR too.
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I agree, just stated what a few select people say, as I have Mahatma myself.

Relating to Hmk's post about auto-refresh or refrehs winning over HMP over short periods, this is true, and there is a discussion thread relating to this fact by Shefki here: http://killingifrit.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=132426 - Ignore the fact its' KI and read, it a good thread.

Based off the SMN forums tho, however the statement of HMP relates to all mage jobs and applies to them all.

EDIT: BLM need all the Boxer's Mantles and AGI they can get. I've seen some uber BLMs evade HNM attacks. NEEDZ MOAR AGI.
 
Hmkiroko said:
Over short periods of time, refresh wins over HMP, not if you are resting for a full pool though right?
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Depends on your entire set. First tic of MP takes 20 seconds, each following tic takes 10 seconds so after it obviously works out better for hMP over auto refresh because there is less time for auto refresh to take effect.

Now, the only auto refresh that matters for the most part(see below) is from Yigit because anything else forces you to lose the 5hMP from the body and that will hurt the return. Looking at the best set vs yigit, we have Goliard Chapeau (2hMP), Oracle's Robe (6), Oracle's Gloves (2), Yigit Seraweels (2), and Goliard Clogs (3) would give a total of 15 hMP. Yigit set has a total of 8 hMP and auto refresh, 1 from head, 5 from body and 2 from legs with the set effect. The first tic from Yigit gives 8 MP from resting and ~7 from Auto refresh for a total of 15 while the best hMP set gives 15.

Now, if you just compare any auto refresh body to an hMP body, you do win out with auto refresh by 1-2 MP, but this is only for the first tic. Every tic after you're losing 2-3 MP. So really, you could get the best benefit with the best hMP set and switching body after the first tic.
 
Lavi said:
Depends on your entire set. First tic of MP takes 20 seconds, each following tic takes 10 seconds so after it obviously works out better for hMP over auto refresh because there is less time for auto refresh to take effect.

Now, the only auto refresh that matters for the most part(see below) is from Yigit because anything else forces you to lose the 5hMP from the body and that will hurt the return. Looking at the best set vs yigit, we have Goliard Chapeau (2hMP), Oracle's Robe (6), Oracle's Gloves (2), Yigit Seraweels (2), and Goliard Clogs (3) would give a total of 15 hMP. Yigit set has a total of 8 hMP and auto refresh, 1 from head, 5 from body and 2 from legs with the set effect. The first tic from Yigit gives 8 MP from resting and ~7 from Auto refresh for a total of 15 while the best hMP set gives 15.

Now, if you just compare any auto refresh body to an hMP body, you do win out with auto refresh by 1-2 MP, but this is only for the first tic. Every tic after you're losing 2-3 MP. So really, you could get the best benefit with the best hMP set and switching body after the first tic.
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Just more supporting information in addition to Lavi and Hmk.
I never did go out of my way to swap my Black Cloak for Errant Body in exp duo. I can say from watching Rece he recovered MP faster in Errant. If you're in exp -- you can get away with it, but for other fights, that extra 50 MP can make a difference (for full cycle resting).
 
I want to say I remember that swapping in a Refresh body piece would improve your MPh for the first 5(?) tics, and that after that you should swap into MPh body piece. Which is really only useful if you're healing from empty. I, personally, never bothered to switch on my Demon Cloak while resting. Although my Resting gear leaves much to be desired.

Pluto's Staff
Beak Necklace +1
Oracle's Robe/Mahatma Body
Heirarch Belt
Oracle's Braconi
 
I used to have this program (from windower site i think?) that swapped in errant before the tick and AF2 body after; it was pretty great, but I looked ridiculous blinking out like that, so I quit using it ;(
 
So much work for one mp!
 
If we are going to talk about completely "free" sets (minus the time investment to get), I think the following should be reviewed.

Oracles Robe Set = 14hMP / 120 MP / 121 Def

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Yigit Set = 11.33hMP / 25 MP / 119 Def

I know they are harder to attain, but are free and a topic of discussion w/i this thread. Even if you get 4/5 from the easier NMs, and put in a yigit body / AF+1 / Mahatma.
 
Soooo this

[Lv 40]Magic Slacks

Intelligence +2
Mind +2
Enchantment: Restore MP
<Max Charges: 50 / Equip Delay: 30s / Reuse Timer: 36s>


OR

[Lv 64]Druid's Slops

Healing Magic Skill +5
Elemental Magic Skill +5
 
Gohaan said:
Soooo this

[Lv 40]Magic Slacks

Intelligence +2
Mind +2
Enchantment: Restore MP
<Max Charges: 50 / Equip Delay: 30s / Reuse Timer: 36s>


OR

[Lv 64]Druid's Slops

Healing Magic Skill +5
Elemental Magic Skill +5
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Really just depends how much you want to spend on that slot for a piece you will sell once you get higher. But the Magic Slacks will give you more damage, the Druid Slops will just enhance your resist rate.
 
Gohaan said:
Soooo this

[Lv 40]Magic Slacks

Intelligence +2
Mind +2
Enchantment: Restore MP
<Max Charges: 50 / Equip Delay: 30s / Reuse Timer: 36s>


OR

[Lv 64]Druid's Slops

Healing Magic Skill +5
Elemental Magic Skill +5
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Just go out and see if you get a lot of resists (please note the game day) and if you do get Druid's, if not, use Magic. I'm 70 and still using Magic Slacks until Mahatma at 72.
 
I have the magic slacks already and my INT is ummm Elvaan so resists and dmg are high and low respectively. The druids are only like 30k was curious.
 
What is the rest of your gear like, Gohaan? Your Elvaan, so INT is pretty important, but it just depends on what the rest of your stats are.

In any case, you won't be wearing either of those at 75. Either is appropriate, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
 
@Lv 60

Currently is

NQ staves HQ Ice.
The +1 Int grip

Head is AF
Body is Black Cotehardie
Back is Red Cape +1
Neck is Cant remember the name but +3 int +2 mnd
Hands is AF
Waste is Pentent's rope
Ears Moldy and morion
Ranged is Tanthlum
Rings are the HQ +4 rings
Pants is the Magic slacks.
Feet is Elvaan RSE +2 int 20 mp

I think total without food I have +31 or 32 int. My Base int is 56 with 1 Int merit
 
I used Shamans Cloak instead of AF hat + Black Cote. I preferred to have the +5 Elemental skill over the +2 INT. Other then that, that's pretty much what my BLM looked like at 60 too
 
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