Hard work finally paying off

Eulore said:
Yes you did, in bhaflau thickets. Ask Rsouljah. He was there too.
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Yet i only exped with windy or aly there or both.....
every where else was mire ^.^
unless you talking about lv 66-72 but why exp with a 75 at 72?
 
Kire said:
Yet i only exped with windy or aly there or both.....
every where else was mire ^.^
unless you talking about lv 66-72 but why exp with a 75 at 72?
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you were low, like 70 or something.
 
Stouter said:
The problem with most bards is that they get stuck in bad camps. Pulling for a stationairy cannon that is camped outside of aggro rarely leaves you enough time to pull and keep songs up. Most parties are too afraid to camp right in the middle of where the mobs spawn, and that's why your songs wear off.

And for the record, noob wars are much worse.
"I hit the mob".
"I hit the mob again".
"Tank just ate a shadow stripping move but I don't care, I'm hitting the mob".
"Brd just pulled 2 mobs and slept them next to me but I don't care, I'm still on this mob".
"I have TP rampage GO".
"that mob is dead, hitting the next mob".
"Other mob the bard pulled is awake and chasing him, but I don't care because I'm hitting this mob".
"Whm just pulled hate and is now taking a beating from curing that brd, I'm almost to 100 TP!".
etc
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FUCKING BRILLIANT. I Love you Loosy! That IS RIPPED FROM MY HEAD LETTER BY LEETER.

/Neosquall clink clink congrats bud. And You NEED to get back to joining us on our secret meetings you dipshit.
 
It takes a lot more for a bard to be intolerably bad than a warrior or most other jobs. Bard could be completely naked with 3 instruments(Attack, elegy and let's say march instruments, all NQ) and would still be more effective than most of the bandwagoning warriors out there. As long as they sing 5 songs a fight(2 melee, 2x ballad, elegy), and occasionally finale when needed most parties won't notice they suck. When a warrior apparently unlearned provoke after 70 levels of having the ability, that's far more noticable.
 
Bajaratt said:
It takes a lot more for a bard to be intolerably bad than a warrior or most other jobs. Bard could be completely naked with 3 instruments(Attack, elegy and let's say march instruments, all NQ) and would still be more effective than most of the bandwagoning warriors out there. As long as they sing 5 songs a fight(2 melee, 2x ballad, elegy), and occasionally finale when needed most parties won't notice they suck. When a warrior apparently unlearned provoke after 70 levels of having the ability, that's far more noticable.
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But it's not as annoying if you have another warrior that still knows provoke as opposed to a single bard sucking with no one to make up for it.
 
Congrats to Neosquall and Eulore on their rings=D
 
Eulore said:
But it's not as annoying if you have another warrior that still knows provoke as opposed to a single bard sucking with no one to make up for it.
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If your bard sucks roam instead of having them pull, you can still get 90% of the exp you would get with a good puller.
 
Bajaratt said:
It takes a lot more for a bard to be intolerably bad than a warrior or most other jobs. Bard could be completely naked with 3 instruments(Attack, elegy and let's say march instruments, all NQ) and would still be more effective than most of the bandwagoning warriors out there. As long as they sing 5 songs a fight(2 melee, 2x ballad, elegy), and occasionally finale when needed most parties won't notice they suck. When a warrior apparently unlearned provoke after 70 levels of having the ability, that's far more noticable.
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5 songs a fight? O_o

Pull> buff 1 > pull > Ballad 2 > pull > Buff 2 > pull > ballad 1
 
Kire said:
5 songs a fight? O_o

Pull> buff 1 > pull > Ballad 2 > pull > Buff 2 > pull > ballad 1
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Meh Baja is a noob Kire, don't listen to her.
Thats a cool tip, thanks pal. I'll have to try it out.
 
Kire said:
5 songs a fight? O_o

Pull> buff 1 > pull > Ballad 2 > pull > Buff 2 > pull > ballad 1
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For a traditional party, before you deal with cannon setups there's more than enough time to play 5 songs a fight before the mob is dead; unless the bard is retarded or asleep. This is also assuming that the bard isn't pulling, in which case they'd likely pull with elegy so that cuts it down to 4. Having been in a few cannon-like parties on my bard(nothing like at 75 though), I'd generally alternate the fights with different buffs, like this:

pull(elegy), melee buffs
pull(elegy), ballad x2
repeat until out of mobs

This only works for when you're killing mobs extremely fast though, for normal parties there's no reason to have to break up songs like that. Even for cannon parties, that's 2 songs a fight if the bard is pulling with elegy; so my point still stands. As long as the parties get their buffs it's a lot harder for them to notice a shitty bard than a shitty warrior.

And no eulore, just having one warrior who can provoke and 2-3 who can't doesn't make up for the 2-3 shitty players.
 
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I think the difference between the two is that having an amazing melee member or two will make a good pt become great, but having an amazing brd with make a good pt become spectacular.

Edit: Used the word amazing too many times.
 
Bajaratt said:
For a traditional party, before you deal with cannon setups there's more than enough time to play 5 songs a fight before the mob is dead; unless the bard is retarded or asleep. This is also assuming that the bard isn't pulling, in which case they'd likely pull with elegy so that cuts it down to 4. Having been in a few cannon-like parties on my bard(nothing like at 75 though), I'd generally alternate the fights with different buffs, like this:

pull(elegy), melee buffs
pull(elegy), ballad x2
repeat until out of mobs

This only works for when you're killing mobs extremely fast though, for normal parties there's no reason to have to break up songs like that. Even for cannon parties, that's 2 songs a fight if the bard is pulling with elegy; so my point still stands. As long as the parties get their buffs it's a lot harder for them to notice a shitty bard than a shitty warrior.

And no eulore, just having one warrior who can provoke and 2-3 who can't doesn't make up for the 2-3 shitty players.
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Well I'm a nin so if at least one warrior can provoke I don't notice the other wars lack of provokes >.>
 
It's been very noticable for me. I'm not allowed to go monk/war in aht urghan, but when I pull hate even as a monk/nin(only a little less often than monk/war), dumbass bandwagon war's don't voke it off me even after shadows are down and I'm taking a bunch of hits. With two people who have the IQ over a rock and can voke, it's not a big deal if only two people are smart enough to voke, but when it's only one person it's very wrong.
 
I plan on getting Ranger to 75. Almost have enough for an E-bow and I'm only 25!

Post Patch.

Bandwagon -1 :)


Ohmm...

/popcorn
 
Zethren said:
Meh Baja is a noob Kire, don't listen to her.
Thats a cool tip, thanks pal. I'll have to try it out.
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Did anyone else lol at this statement? I know i sure did.
 
I bandwagoned Drk.
 
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