if you were a designer for SE....

hellstorm said:
which part? if about crimson and dalmica, While the damatica whould be better in party where rdm is main healer, the crimson body be better where rdm is the enfeb. also with someone like me where my mp and hp are so close together I can use more +hp gear then mp gear. I would like to have both but if I had to pick one I'd chpose crimson tabard.

If about secound part Id do belive they where meant for more then what rdm can do now. Giving rdm ws would not overpower them it will just give them a better chance at building good ws melee gear. Savage Blade 1.00 1.75 3.50 2x STR_30% MND_50%
Vorpal Blade 1.00 4 STR_30% Crit Rate

All they have to do is add crit hit to savage blade and it be a half way decent ws.

Mnk has jse it your belts no other job has belts that good.
I would imagine that rdm's AF body would be the best piece for enfeebling, with the +15 skill.

Skaw's already covered it somewhat, but the belts is not JSE you idiot. JSE is a set of gear unless you can wear more than one belt at a time, it's a single piece of gear that only monk can wear, just like some of the weapons. Every job has single pieces of gear only they can wear, and none of it is JSE. Oh, and before you give another retarded cop-out to monks not having JSE, Akido Koshita and Akido Gi don't apply either.
 
I would add:

For BLM:
1: Confuse spell
2. Reflect spell
3. Meteor spell

Status ailments
1. You act like an undead (If you get healed, you get dmg instead)

New jobs:
1. Geomancer , depending on the floor you stand, you get special abilities aswell as spells

For MNK:
1. Full Concentration(Gained by merits)- All your attacks are unavoidable.
lasts 20seconds, Recast 30mins.

New missions:
Zodiac story

New Items:
1. Defender(Sword) Latent effect: defense bonus (less hp, more defense added)

thats what I remember by now lol
 
hellstorm said:
well dalmatica is overrated. the 40 hp mp and 10 int mnd is much better then 50hp>mp refresh +1. Now if only crimson didn't intimidate you around demons and dragoons.

omg lawwwwwwwwwwl are you serious?

delsus said:
RDM do not need a big MP pool, they can get it up quick. WHM only cures? You most of been in a party with some shit WHMs, and some shit BLMs.
Whats the point of a big MP pool if you are on /heal most the time? Resson a BRD does not go into full MP gear till got all the possable refresh stuff, there is no need for a MP of 1000 etc. Just have a higher auto refresh and you can do more in the time then justbe on /heal also you forget RDM gets convert to much MP = a bad convert to little is wasted HP

/sigh.. these two posts just really depressed me XD
 
Mistra said:
Hey Neo, I'm pretty sure if we worked for Squenix, we'd become some twisted ass GM's. ;D

yeah, like, i'd pop simurgh inside the crawlers nest, in the pit. :D

and then after i got bored with that, i would spawn hydra in the bhaflau thickets camp.
 
neophytal said:
omg lawwwwwwwwwwl are you serious?



/sigh.. these two posts just really depressed me XD

yes im serious and I agree with you on secound quote. Now I know what you going say you have errant which has sam stats. Errant dont have the 40 mp or hp. While af1 is better for hnm when it come to low resist mobs int and mind are better. Then you going say errant dont have mp/h. When last time rdm had to rest unless wasting him mp and have wlk tabard+1 so have that covered. The dalmatica has 10 mp -90hp and +1 refresh. If you have dulist chap you already getting a +1 and for 10 mil cheaper. +1 refresh is nice but with convert not really needed.

edit: also you going say af2 hat rare but not as rare as dalmatica.
 
Bajaratt said:
I would imagine that rdm's AF body would be the best piece for enfeebling, with the +15 skill.

Skaw's already covered it somewhat, but the belts is not JSE you idiot. JSE is a set of gear unless you can wear more than one belt at a time, it's a single piece of gear that only monk can wear, just like some of the weapons. Every job has single pieces of gear only they can wear, and none of it is JSE. Oh, and before you give another retarded cop-out to monks not having JSE, Akido Koshita and Akido Gi don't apply either.
mnk is different. They decide to give you belts instead of the 4-5 set jse(what do you know SE has contrast), Im sure that 95% of job would trade all there jse for black belt alone.
 
hellstorm said:
yes im serious and I agree with you on secound quote. Now I know what you going say you have errant which has sam stats. Errant dont have the 40 mp or hp. While af1 is better for hnm when it come to low resist mobs int and mind are better. Then you going say errant dont have mp/h. When last time rdm had to rest unless wasting him mp and have wlk tabard+1 so have that covered. The dalmatica has 10 mp -90hp and +1 refresh. If you have dulist chap you already getting a +1 and for 10 mil cheaper. +1 refresh is nice but with convert not really needed.

edit: also you going say af2 hat rare but not as rare as dalmatica.

one word: MACROS!
 
also savage blade mod whould help pld as well. Hell even if they made it
1.50 2.75 3.50 it be decent
 
hellstorm said:
mnk is different. They decide to give you belts instead of the 4-5 set jse(what do you know SE has contrast), Im sure that 95% of job would trade all there jse for black belt alone.

thats a lame point. wars have ridill. wars still have jse. can i have a high DPS weapon that occasionally attacks 2-3 times? faith is low dps, so dont even bring that up.

hellstorm said:
what that got to do with tea or china?

because you dont need MND/INT unless you are casting a spell that uses these beneficially.

having refresh (dalmatica) or double refresh (dalmatica+af2 hat) is far better than using something like errant body or crimson body full time.

macros combine the best of both worlds-- have refresh and macro in whatever body piece you want to use for the enfeeble/spell.

its definitely not overrated. :) if you think it is, you dont do enough end game fights or your party setups are slow and so tame that it wouldnt matter, which, in that case, is gimp.
 
Darkseifer said:
I would add:

For BLM:
1: Confuse spell
2. Reflect spell
3. Meteor spell

Reflect would work better as a white magic spell, since it's more defensive.

Status ailments
1. You act like an undead (If you get healed, you get dmg instead)
It's possible to realistically have Zombify since Toad is in now. I can't see it lasting too long though, otherwise it would complicate things too much.

New jobs:
1. Geomancer , depending on the floor you stand, you get special abilities aswell as spells

I don't know why people keep requesting Geomancer. It just cannot work. Mobs are pretty related to their areas. Skeletons are largely found in Caves, Earth magic sucks on Skeletons. Crabs on islands/beaches. Suprise, resistant to water.

For MNK:
1. Full Concentration(Gained by merits)- All your attacks are unavoidable.
lasts 20seconds, Recast 30mins.
Focus pretty much accomplishes this as is, but for a longer time.
 
neophytal said:
because you dont need MND/INT unless you are casting a spell that uses these beneficially.

having refresh (dalmatica) or double refresh (dalmatica+af2 hat) is far better than using something like errant body or crimson body full time.

macros combine the best of both worlds-- have refresh and macro in whatever body piece you want to use for the enfeeble/spell.

its definitely not overrated. :) if you think it is, you dont do enough end game fights or your party setups are slow and so tame that it wouldnt matter, which, in that case, is gimp.
Agian though how many times have you found yourself in need of mp before convert. Dont get me wrong the dalmatica is a very nice peice and i'd love to have it, but crimsion tabard nice peice as well and widely under looked while dalmatica seen as untopable.
 
neophytal said:
thats a lame point. wars have ridill. wars still have jse. can i have a high DPS weapon that occasionally attacks 2-3 times? faith is low dps, so dont even bring that up.
How did a ridiill and faith come into this?
 
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hellstorm said:
Agian though how many times have you found yourself in need of mp before convert. Dont get me wrong the dalmatica is a very nice peice and i'd love to have it, but crimsion tabard nice peice as well and widely under looked while dalmatica seen as untopable.

But if you're using Crimson for MP, Dalmatica is far superior, and if you're using it for casting, a 10k Errant Body is superior...
 
Courtney said:
But if you're using Crimson for MP, Dalmatica is far superior, and if you're using it for casting, a 10k Errant Body is superior...
or you can have the crimsion for the price of 1 mil to dalmaticas 10 mil
 
Hellstorm has to be the only red mage to claim dalmatica, the only refresh body item they get that doesn't jack your head slot, sucks.
 
Skaw said:
Hellstorm has to be the only red mage to claim dalmatica, the only refresh body item they get that doesn't jack your head slot, sucks.
at what point did I say it sucks ive never said that not once. I said it overrated, as being omg best body ever. That in no way saying that body sucks.

edit: if I had a choice I have dalmatica- for rest and standing around, crimsion- for nukes, convert, enf(low resist mobs), wlk tabard +1- for enf(high residt mobs), mp/h
 
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hellstorm said:
or you can have the crimsion for the price of 1 mil to dalmaticas 10 mil

Or the Errant for 10k...

Which is completely irrelevant when the difficulty is in getting the piece of paper. If you can get the paper, and are balking at the price of the cursed item then you need your head examined...
 
Courtney said:
Or the Errant for 10k...

Which is completely irrelevant when the difficulty is in getting the piece of paper. If you can get the paper, and are balking at the price of the cursed item then you need your head examined...
crimson is better the errant take place of 3 armors and no - stats. you have to combine both the errant and the Dalmatia and you still don't get the value what you would of crimson, because you lose 90hp in the process. Best over all body for rdm is crimson you could get rid of every body piece you have for exp situation for that 1 body.
 
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