I'LL GIVE YOU YOUR @#$%! GREATAXE, RIGHT UP YOUR @#$%ING @$$

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I'll be switching to mnk/sam at thirty, so you won't have to worry about after level 50.

and do I ask you to invite me to your party? no. i sit there with my flag up. if you don't like it, kick me! I don't mind sitting there for a while. just don't tell me what to do with my char. i knew of weakness vs. crabs, and thats why I had sword leveled. I respect your desire to have a perfect party, but if I'm in there, leave me the hell alone, especially after I ask you to stop, and demonstrate my desire not to change.
 
hmmmm....a touchy subject.....i too go with a rather odd job choice sometimes, but i also realize that a party may not like the subjob choice, so if they bitch so be it. However, constant bitching from the party, even after you have explained to them why you chose what you chose, is annoying, and uncalled for.

Sometimes i go into pt's as a drg/rdm. Yes, i know, i don't have my damage potential that i could be having if i subbed thf or war or something. But, i also know how easily a party can turn into a shitfest, and that healing breath II that i can perform for 5 MP can really save the parties ass when i spam it. Usually though, i go into parties with thf subbed, because i can really rip a mob a new one with SA + Double Thrust (providing it isn't a damn crab or something). It really comes down to this, if you are going to go into a party with an odd subjob choice/weapon then expect to get shit, and don't complain when you do. The best way to get by is to see if your job/subjob/weapon choice would be appreciated before you get the invite, when someone sends you a /tell you ask them "is it okay i'm using polearm?" or "Do you need me to change my sub?"

At least that way you are somewhat justified when you tell them to shut the fuck up if they start bitching about your subjob/weapon. I really don't believe weapon/subjob choice is super incredibly important, i really think it boils down to the skill of the player in using their abilities to the fullest.
 
Rones said:
And just one final note I found this post by Desini in another thread:
/slap all teh l337

you have a right to type how you like, but if you want to waste your time figuring out how to type 1337 to me, don't expect me to treat you like anything other than a total dipshit. the end.

that goes for all you who use 'u' instead of 'you' as well
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This comes across as such hypocracy. You get mad when people criticize you for being different, yet here you are doing it as well. You say you will treat them like 'total dipshits' so does that mean we should treat you the same?
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you make a good point, acctaully. thinking this over, i guess you can type your l337 if you want, but when I see things like 'u,' it projects, sub-conciously and otherwise, a lack of inteligence from the person writing it. what I should have said there is that if you do type things like that, you are going to come off as less inteligent to some people. also, I piss about it here, but the only time i ever mention it to someone whos doing it iin game is if they're a newbie, and I (at least I attempt to) calmly explain that there are people who will look down on them for that. I do know some people who type 'u's, and are still rather intelligent, but it still makes me cringe when I see it.

that's all off topic. on topic, thats another reason I'm leveling war, to have that availible. some of the time I do ask if its okay if I'm mnk/rdm, though up till now I couldn't do anything about it if i was except leave (which I did a couple of times). also, in that particular party in the dunes, I asked the party which weapon they wanted me to use and was using a sword + sheild, despite my love for polearms. but I already have a number of options, and it would take alot of room to fill out all the possibilities. maybe one day I'll give in and level my great axe skill to make it an option. but for now, I'll start asking if its okay every time, if I can remember.
 
Most everything I'd say has been said anyway...
I would just say that, in a party scenario, do it the tried and true way.
Because there is more than just YOUR 13 bucks a month riding on it.
Be an individual with your own individual time.

I've never had issues with WARs that wielded a GA. But I have had issues with WARs wielding a polearm. It's just not ideal in a party situation.

I have a bigger problem with losers who don't eat food, or wear updated gear, and don't know their jobs. But that's a separate issue.
In party formation, when 6 people are working together towards a common goal, and every little bit of ass whooping is worth something, I don't see that as the time to be an individual.

On your own time, I am all for it. Good for you for trying something new or just doing what you like. If you are ok LFG with a strange combination of jobs, then I am ok just passing you over and leaving you be. It's your business, and not mine to tell you how to play.
 
Sneaky, I truly hope to have the pleasure of partying with you sometime.
 
Desini said:
I'll be switching to mnk/sam at thirty, so you won't have to worry about after level 50.
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I must say, Sam is a LOUSY subjob pre-60, and even then, it's not great. You shouldn't ever need TP as a monk. Not ever. You get TP boost 1 from a sam subjob at level 30. Whoopdeedoo. It really makes you feel like a nonconformist because you have a lousy subjob? Think about that one for a while, then get back to me on it.

You know of the weakness of polearms to crabs, so you have sword leveled huh? Where's tyrion's pic that says "Your post makes me want to masturbate to homeless amputees" 1h-sword using warriors, please, stop. now. PLEASE. *searches SE and kills whoever made the first Gaxe level 5 and warriors start with a 1h sword*
 
Songi_ said:
Where's tyrion's pic that says "Your post makes me want to masturbate to homeless amputees"
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amputees.jpg


Reporting for duty, sir!

PS: I didn't make that.
 
Songi_ said:
Desini said:
I'll be switching to mnk/sam at thirty, so you won't have to worry about after level 50.
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I must say, Sam is a LOUSY subjob pre-60, and even then, it's not great. You shouldn't ever need TP as a monk. Not ever. You get TP boost 1 from a sam subjob at level 30. Whoopdeedoo. It really makes you feel like a nonconformist because you have a lousy subjob? Think about that one for a while, then get back to me on it.

You know of the weakness of polearms to crabs, so you have sword leveled huh? Where's tyrion's pic that says "Your post makes me want to masturbate to homeless amputees" 1h-sword using warriors, please, stop. now. PLEASE. *searches SE and kills whoever made the first Gaxe level 5 and warriors start with a 1h sword*
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Actually, if she subbed SAM, she would get TP Boost 1 at 20, Third Eye at 30...

Anyways, Desini, just to shut everyone up, when leveling WAR, sub MNK, and use a H2H weapon..they might say something about Great Axe, but WAR/MNK using H2H is a bit better than pole-arm using, IMHO.

You know what, just in spite of the Subjob Nazi's i'm going to make a party in Kazham sometime, and invite you ^^;
 
Sneakypants said:
On your own time, I am all for it. Good for you for trying something new or just doing what you like. If you are ok LFG with a strange combination of jobs, then I am ok just passing you over and leaving you be. It's your business, and not mine to tell you how to play.
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Yeah, what Sneaky said. I would like to add though, I do wish SE had made it so you could play jobs in more than just one or two ways, or that you could have weird job combinations and not be useless in the context of XP parties. :?

(If anyone starts bitching you out while not in party with you *cough*vang*cough*, give them an extra slap from me 8))
 
:? This subject seems to have turned into something beyond the original poster's intent. War has an extreme versatility with wpns, and while I have not used anything but GAxe for ages,
(yea, I neglected my axe, but I customize most my PTs to not need Mistral Axe, although with the impending dependence on ppl outside my circle I am seriously going to consider lvling it, although doing so come with that terrible Nin SJ :roll: )
,I have been invited to PTs post 60 and asked to use other wpns beyond axe or Gaxe for renkei purpose, i.e., A polearm or GSw to allow the thf to end Distortion with Dancing Edge. And for all you Japanese admirers :wink: it was from a JP PT. Ultimately they ended up doing a lvl1 renkei with the war/nin tank, while I got to spam Rush all PT long. :twisted:

Now then, would I recommend using anything but an Axe/GAxe as a warrior? No. Why did I post? Because I like trying to sound like I am the authority on something.
 
Not sure how lacking the War sub for beserk will effect the damage... Especialy as a mithra it will hurt...alot... Not to mention the loss of the STR bonus.

You can be whatever job combo you wish, and go around with the only equipment being an onion dagger. Your right it is your charachter and you pay for it. Just do not to expect the inivtes and expect more then a few nasty /tells. You will be made fun of I can assure you because there. is no way around it using polearm pre 30 as a War is excusable with DRG excuse (It aint a great reason but w/e) But post 30? and a MNK/RDM? You will not get exp party invites periode post 50, and probaly not much post 40 where parties start to form in jeuno.
 
Direwolf said:
Not sure how lacking the War sub for beserk will effect the damage... Especialy as a mithra it will hurt...alot... Not to mention the loss of the STR bonus.

You can be whatever job combo you wish, and go around with the only equipment being an onion dagger. Your right it is your charachter and you pay for it. Just do not to expect the inivtes and expect more then a few nasty /tells. You will be made fun of I can assure you because there. is no way around it using polearm pre 30 as a War is excusable with DRG excuse (It aint a great reason but w/e) But post 30? and a MNK/RDM? You will not get exp party invites periode post 50, and probaly not much post 40 where parties start to form in jeuno.
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I don't mean to be rude, but, READ

She said that post 30, she is going to get SAM, and level it, and go MNK/SAM...
 
For some reason I only thought there was one page... I blame it on having 5 hours of class and a 3 hour lab ahead of me....
 
zerk honestly doesn't affect my dmg a ton. yes, it allows me to hit up to 110 a hit if I get lucky, but I wear a ton of str+ equip. war sub gives maybe 2 str more? =/

GAX , i think, is pointless for most things until Sturmwind. then even that isn't great until 30. SA+sturm = 100minimum, 400~when DA goes off ^^

Most weapons don't take that A or C rating until post 40/50 anyways....
 
OniTatsujin said:
Actually, if she subbed SAM, she would get TP Boost 1 at 20, Third Eye at 30...
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What I meant was that she would only have TP boost 1, and not TP boost 2, meditate, blah blah. Third eye doesn't help in a party situation on a mnk/sam. At level 30, a mnk shouldn't be tanking, and won't be able to without war subbed.

Thanks Tyrion :D
 
Sure D, Go right ahead ^^. Glad you liked it
 
Songi_ said:
OniTatsujin said:
Actually, if she subbed SAM, she would get TP Boost 1 at 20, Third Eye at 30...
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What I meant was that she would only have TP boost 1, and not TP boost 2, meditate, blah blah. Third eye doesn't help in a party situation on a mnk/sam. At level 30, a mnk shouldn't be tanking, and won't be able to without war subbed.

Thanks Tyrion :D
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Well, when I usually play SAM, I sometimes steal hate from the tank, and so I throw up Third Eye, and also, it dodged an AoE for me once, so that's cool =P

Also, what if she pulled hate from the mob? Saves WHM MP..also, sometimes MNK's have to pull...

Just looking at options for MNK/SAM...
 
Hello I am a subjob nazi.

Let me explain the "Final solution". Yes, pun is intended.

Only two real options here.

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Reason why to sub thf
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1. Higher boost on DEX stats. 1 Dex = .5 ACC (Great for mithras)
2. SA @ Lv30
3. TA @ 60
4. @ Level 30... SA+ Combo 300 damage anyone?
5. Treasure hunter for more drops @ Lv30
6. Gil finder.
7. please add more if you can


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Reason why to sub warrior
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1. More STR +
2. Berserk @ Lv30
3. Warcry @ Lv50
4. OMG DOUBLE ATTACK @ LV50!!!
5. Raging fists for 600 damage anyone?

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Reason why NOT sub sam or rdm oranything else.
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1. Please read the above.



Ahem. And to point out. Not matter what pathetic excuse people have not matter how much they cliam that they are just having fun or its there right.... This is for you...

You DO have a responsiblity in the game. It is your job to use your class in the BEST way possible to benefit your PARTY.

There IS NO I IN TEAM. GET OVER YOURSELF.

DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND BURN YOUR BRADLEY GANES FFXI BOOK!!!!

/em dies.

God it's been a year now... shouldn't they have learned by now...

end of rant
 
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