Is it okay to MPK Gil-seller?
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Some people here are saying if we MPK gilsellers it will get worse. I'm not an expert on the situation but can it get worse? My understanding is that if they are there they will MPK you. Do the said gilsellers ever "allow" people to have claims without trying to take it?
If this is true then all thats happening is that they are shooting you and you just keep eating the bullet and not firing back, they are laughing at you. And because they think you'll do nothing it continues. How do you stop somebody from harassing you?
If this is true then all thats happening is that they are shooting you and you just keep eating the bullet and not firing back, they are laughing at you. And because they think you'll do nothing it continues. How do you stop somebody from harassing you?
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gil sellers deserve every MPK we can give 'em, wether they have wronged any of us personally is irrelivant, they affect every single one of us by monopolizing drops and selling gil.
but i still maintain that more attention needs be paid to gil buyers, they fuel the gil sellers by providing a purpose to sell gil.
gil sellers deserve every MPK we can give 'em, wether they have wronged any of us personally is irrelivant, they affect every single one of us by monopolizing drops and selling gil.
but i still maintain that more attention needs be paid to gil buyers, they fuel the gil sellers by providing a purpose to sell gil.
Oh I understand it now. My emperor's hairpin was why you tried to MPK me Konartist? Maybe I camped for it? Maybe I farmed for it? Maybe I bought it off my credit card :?: :?: :?:
It's obviously vigilante justice is what we need, hell it's even in the ToS... I mean, you all trust Konartist's judgement... right... right....?
It's obviously vigilante justice is what we need, hell it's even in the ToS... I mean, you all trust Konartist's judgement... right... right....?
Firestreak said:
Ok I wont get back into this arguement cause I have since gotten over it. However you confuse me with these different statements:
My emperor's hairpin was why you tried to MPK me Konartist
And then beneath your sig it reads:
Konartist proven MPK'er
I dont get it
Well apparently I take grudges to the grave. Had any trouble getting into any HNM LS lately Kon-buddy?
The point I'm trying to make is simple because as I can see you're easily confused. I've tried to 'fight the system' before in games like these and I always end up in one place, ban-land. What you are failing to realize is your actual options.
Option A: Go out in a blaze of MPK glory. A few hours of effort lost to a bunch of gilsellers who aren't worth the dirt on my shoes. Your account and hundreds of hours down the trash. Please take option A.
Option B: Try to fight them "inside the system." When you realize the system doesn't give a shit about you, you might resort to option C.
Option C: Quit FF. People will actually give a shit about this. Please take option C. If enough do... well, maybe S-E will put the grinder to them gil-sellers. Unfortunately looks like more people actually are buying gil than would quit as a result of nothing done. Hmmm... why is that? I'll call that Footnote A.
Option D: Accept there are gilsellers and buyers. Realize they don't really effect you unless they are MPKing you or Claim Stealing from you.(At which point you have my A-O-K to MPK the shit out of them. Realize they are not the cause of the problem.... we'll discuss that in foot note A.
Footnote A(rather large footnote): The problem is like a wart, and gilsellers are the scab above the surface. Forget the gilbuyer and seller's names and reputation for a moment, and imagine simply a person wanting an item... and paying someone in real life to log on their PC and while they're sleeping get it for them. Would this seem strange to you... or would this be "wronging" you?
I, myself, do not see the enjoyment in this. Someone playing the game for you, and part of the game, to me, is affording to do the things I do.
To others, some I know, the game is merely having fun. As many of you people comment, this game seems like a job to you sometimes. They buy gil. I know people who do, and I don't hate them for it. I dislike the system... NMs that place people in competition with each other... a ridiculous crafting system... essentially a huge barrier. I do not see gilsellers or buyers as making the game harder for me. I don't hoarde my gil and inflation usually in fact benefits me by making intelligent purchases. I see competitors as making the game harder for me. They are usually not gilsellers. If all NMs could be forcibly popped, if all guild shops were unaffected by campers... if S-E made enough actualy monsters for everyone, the game would simply put... be more fun. But as long as there's an unneeded challenge that forces the game to be all about PvP competition then there will be people who opt out of that part of the game and want to enjoy exp and quests and missions...
I don't like it but I accept the problem is deeper.
The point I'm trying to make is simple because as I can see you're easily confused. I've tried to 'fight the system' before in games like these and I always end up in one place, ban-land. What you are failing to realize is your actual options.
Option A: Go out in a blaze of MPK glory. A few hours of effort lost to a bunch of gilsellers who aren't worth the dirt on my shoes. Your account and hundreds of hours down the trash. Please take option A.
Option B: Try to fight them "inside the system." When you realize the system doesn't give a shit about you, you might resort to option C.
Option C: Quit FF. People will actually give a shit about this. Please take option C. If enough do... well, maybe S-E will put the grinder to them gil-sellers. Unfortunately looks like more people actually are buying gil than would quit as a result of nothing done. Hmmm... why is that? I'll call that Footnote A.
Option D: Accept there are gilsellers and buyers. Realize they don't really effect you unless they are MPKing you or Claim Stealing from you.(At which point you have my A-O-K to MPK the shit out of them. Realize they are not the cause of the problem.... we'll discuss that in foot note A.
Footnote A(rather large footnote): The problem is like a wart, and gilsellers are the scab above the surface. Forget the gilbuyer and seller's names and reputation for a moment, and imagine simply a person wanting an item... and paying someone in real life to log on their PC and while they're sleeping get it for them. Would this seem strange to you... or would this be "wronging" you?
I, myself, do not see the enjoyment in this. Someone playing the game for you, and part of the game, to me, is affording to do the things I do.
To others, some I know, the game is merely having fun. As many of you people comment, this game seems like a job to you sometimes. They buy gil. I know people who do, and I don't hate them for it. I dislike the system... NMs that place people in competition with each other... a ridiculous crafting system... essentially a huge barrier. I do not see gilsellers or buyers as making the game harder for me. I don't hoarde my gil and inflation usually in fact benefits me by making intelligent purchases. I see competitors as making the game harder for me. They are usually not gilsellers. If all NMs could be forcibly popped, if all guild shops were unaffected by campers... if S-E made enough actualy monsters for everyone, the game would simply put... be more fun. But as long as there's an unneeded challenge that forces the game to be all about PvP competition then there will be people who opt out of that part of the game and want to enjoy exp and quests and missions...
I don't like it but I accept the problem is deeper.
Name em please. =p
I'm just curious what you consider a "very good" HNM LS. If you were so satisfied why were you trying to join mine? 
Oh boy..........
Here we go again.
Here we go again.
I believe I asked you first.
Firestreak said:
Well I'll put it to you this way. The most recent one I joined is very well known and lead by a great person/player who happens to be taru. (not hard to figure that one out)
The one I have been in for a while now would be hard for you to guess however it has a certain thief in it that is one of the best HNM and NM hunters I have ever had the pleasure of camping with, and also an incredible friend. Not to mention its lead by one of the most helpful Warriors in vana'diel who cares more about his LS than his own gear.
By the way, is it wrong to MPK someone who plays FF all day long during the summer and spends the entire time camping VE then jacks up the prices and then outbids you on stuff you want rising the price out of your reach? If by being in a position to outbid you in a way you can't possibly compete "effects" you in a bad way isn't that the only solution?
*cough* why someone else's game shouldn't affect mine... down with timer popped NMS!!!
*cough* why someone else's game shouldn't affect mine... down with timer popped NMS!!!