ixion has been killed

[Lanien]

Funny, I wrote two paragraphs, and it gets summarised into five words, which I didn't actually say.

Usually when you are wrong, no matter whose thread it is, you will get called out on it. I am pretty sure when you said, and I quote:

Contrary to the seemingly popular belief, it isn't very weak to mellee

Now, correct me if I am wrong, but does this not mean you are saying that Ixion is indeed strong vs. melee attack? Funny thing about this is that Ixion IS weak to melee attack, contrary to what you say and right in line with "popular belief". The current Ixion strategy is to melee surround mobs and use WS on Ixion. Does this not sound like a strategy that has existed in game for years now? It sure does take a brilliant strategist to figure that one out.

 

[Lanien]

I don't think an original strategy has been needed to kill an HNM in this game for a while now. Unless I guess you count switching from throwing more BLM at it to throwing more DD at it or visa versa.

 

[Crosis]

There are only two ways to deal damage to enemies in this game Lanien. Magic and melee. Nothing will ever change that.

Now how you keep these enemies claimed, kited, and/or tanked without wiping involves strategy and thinking.

 

[hellstorm]

There are only two ways to deal damage to enemies in this game Lanien. Magic and melee. Nothing will ever change that.

Now how you keep these enemies claimed, kited, and/or tanked without wiping involves strategy and thinking.

That is true but the problem is not how you dmg him but how to stop him from killing you. While yes in every mob you fight will either die to magic or melee some react differently to you fighting it. Example you would not go melee heavy on mob that spams nasty tp moves, while you would not nuke puke with wind. While alot of fights are simalar the way you get the mob to 0 is stilling needing some type of stratagy. If it is as easy as you make it seem why have you not killed av yet.
As to fights being easy that is because you have been fighting mobs for 4 years, if you keep shooting at a target for 4 years sooner or later you would be able to hit any target regardless if you have seen it before. One learns to anticapate whats to come. However that does not mean it easy per say just that your good and have been around awhile.

 

[Khajit]

I can count about 5 strats that are worth a damn and changed the way we fight hnm overall more than the rest.
1) nin/drk Noone expected that to come out of the woodwork.
2) pld/nin tanking
3)tpburning with rotating brds
4) elemental resist sets vs tiamat and other monsters.
5) kiting like it's genbu?
Everything else is generally just a neat little trick which isnt nearly as important as you think it is in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Genkaku]

Removed due to flamebait.

 

[jamal]

My post was really flamebait? I think you should read it again...it was posting of facts.

 

[Mattaru]

My post was really flamebait? I think you should read it again...it was posting of facts.

We all know that facts are often synonymous with flamebaiting!

 

[jamal]

We all know that facts are often synonymous with flamebaiting!

Caerloc listed the leaders of integral, and said people shouldn't be bashing them. I listed someone he forgot to mention, and also was pointing out it wasn't even Integral when these people were first fighting the HNMs.

I should have listed someone else, but anyone feel free to PM me for "The rest of the story" since giving our server's HNM history is flamebaiting.

 

[Neisan]

It wasn't flamebaiting... it was in response to possible bait. Gotta conceal all the evidence after all.

 

[Mattaru]

Caerloc listed the leaders of integral, and said people shouldn't be bashing them. I listed someone he forgot to mention, and also was pointing out it wasn't even Integral when these people were first fighting the HNMs.

I should have listed someone else, but anyone feel free to PM me for "The rest of the story" since giving our server's HNM history is flamebaiting.

Yeah i read it when it was still up, I　just find it funny that stating facts is considered flamebaiting.

 

[Miros]

This thread is getting ugly pretty quickly. Keep it on track or it's closed and I start tossing out read onlys for a few days.

Don't push me.

 

[Falsey]

ill take one read only please.

/off topic post

 

[Mattaru]

Back to not reading this thread.

 

[Caerloc]

Caerloc listed the leaders of integral, and said people shouldn't be bashing them. I listed someone he forgot to mention, and also was pointing out it wasn't even Integral when these people were first fighting the HNMs.

I should have listed someone else, but anyone feel free to PM me for "The rest of the story" since giving our server's HNM history is flamebaiting.

I didnt get to read any responses, but what i said was that you can think what you want of them as persons, but you'd be crazy if you tried to deny their skills.

 

[Mattaru]

I laughed, but ill take it off.

 

[Phraust]

Usually when you are wrong, no matter whose thread it is, you will get called out on it. I am pretty sure when you said, and I quote:



Now, correct me if I am wrong, but does this not mean you are saying that Ixion is indeed strong vs. melee attack? Funny thing about this is that Ixion IS weak to melee attack, contrary to what you say and right in line with "popular belief". The current Ixion strategy is to melee surround mobs and use WS on Ixion. Does this not sound like a strategy that has existed in game for years now? It sure does take a brilliant strategist to figure that one out.

Actually what's being said is Ixion takes normal damage from melee. Weak would be taking greater than average damage, I.E. anything above a normal weaponskill, like 1500 - 2000. Where Stong to Melee would be in the 200-500 range. I do about 1,000 on your average(non-kaiten lol) Weaponskill to mobs of the level range Ixoin falls into. As well, I happen to do 1,000ish to Ixion as well.

Before one is to Knee-Jerk "Jump down the throat" Reacton on what someone says, one should read what they say, AND know what they are saying. No, Ixion is not weak to melee damage, however it doesn't have any higher defense to melee either. I.E. there appears to be no bonus damage given to melee damage.

Continue.

 

[Lanien]

Actually what's being said is Ixion takes normal damage from melee. Weak would be taking greater than average damage, I.E. anything above a normal weaponskill, like 1500 - 2000. Where Stong to Melee would be in the 200-500 range. I do about 1,000 on your average(non-kaiten lol) Weaponskill to mobs of the level range Ixoin falls into. As well, I happen to do 1,000ish to Ixion as well.

Before one is to Knee-Jerk "Jump down the throat" Reacton on what someone says, one should read what they say, AND know what they are saying. No, Ixion is not weak to melee damage, however it doesn't have any higher defense to melee either. I.E. there appears to be no bonus damage given to melee damage.

Continue.

Actually, Ixion has been taking above normal damage from weapon skills from what I have seen. Sure, I haven't fought him myself, but I have heard from many people who have their WS damage is higher on Ixion than in other cases. Several people have even said they have gotten their highest WS damage ever off Ixion compared to other mobs in his difficulty tier.

 

[Caerloc]

 

[Lanien]

Those weapon skill numbers seem to be a bit above normal, wouldn't you say?

Before one is to Knee-Jerk "Jump down the throat" Reacton on what someone says, one should read what they say, AND know what they are saying.

Continue.