Just a couple tips for all the retard melee classes

[Shai' tan]

Ok, i've been playing this game for about a year now and my highest class level is 30 (yeah, i know pretty damn lame but i work alot) But, even I know that you always have powders and oils handy. Just because i can run a lvl 1 char from Bastok to Jeuno and then to Windy without gaining aggro doesn't mean that i will always avoid it.

Moral: Even this level 30 NOOB knows to use the above stated items. If you don't then your pretty fucking lame. Stop bitching and just make it fucking easier on everyone else and use them!


P.S. Vang, bring it (just not in the face)

 

[Direwolf]

Hmmm correct me if I am wrong but I thought it was assumed that you would autamaticaly have prism powders and silent oils on you at all times. I have echo dros on me. Periode end of story. If you want the mage to help you out to save you some gil, thats cool, I can live with that.
When the mellee gets lost, dies and bitches me out because I was not there to save his ass when he wanders off and dies. If I am not being distracted by real life things, IE the mother, I will be one of the first persons to the camp, I damn well do not want to have to run back because they are slow and have lost sneak.

 

[vang]

Hmmm correct me if I am wrong but I thought it was assumed that you would autamaticaly have prism powders and silent oils on you at all times. I have echo dros on me. Periode end of story. If you want the mage to help you out to save you some gil, thats cool, I can live with that.
When the mellee gets lost, dies and bitches me out because I was not there to save his ass when he wanders off and dies. If I am not being distracted by real life things, IE the mother, I will be one of the first persons to the camp, I damn well do not want to have to run back because they are slow and have lost sneak.

Bah let it die, Duffs just a big dummy^^
He knows he has been had, and is doing his best to avoid this thread from now on in hopes that it sinks fast. So this was a shameless bump one last time to say:

Hi Duff!


XOXOX


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[Sanoske]

I think it's kind of sad that as the blm, in the majority of my past few parties, I have been the one to come up with the SC/MB. I would expect at least sometimes when I say, "Alright, anyone know a SC off the top of their head before I go look?" for someone to say "Yea I remember the one we used... blah blah" instead of "kk,,. u go find one, tha sounds gewd". Or, in the parties I have come into which have already been fighting, for there to.. *gasp*.. already be a SC?!? No.. of course not...

(No offense to anyone I've partied with recently, I'm not talking about everyone, just a few people)

/em smacks head on computer screen.

 

[Duffman]

I'm not avoiding the thread. I just can't believe you are still talking about
it. How many times do I have to say "oh yeah you're right. Sorry that
I am a liability to you holier-than-thou mages." I am brining oils and powders now. You've accomplished your goal.

I don't bitch out mages for not sneaking and invising me. Once again
you are making assumptions about me when you have never partied
with me. Contrary to how you see me here in these forums, I am really
polite and helpful in game.

I just haven't responed anymore because it's a dead issue now. THERE
IS NO MORE HORSE LEFT TO BEAT.

Still, Still, Still, (even though you have made your valid point) you are
making assumptions about how any melee who forgets these things are
terrible players once and if they ever make it to camp. Well I forgot
and I feel that I am an effective player once I make it there.

Even though you started the whole inflammatory fight with your blanket
statements, something got through. However, it might be more effective
and reach out to more melee if you weren't such an ass about it.
Therefore, not many melee have responded in any form; just mages
(some who play melee but refuse to comment on THAT SIDE of it)

So maybe you don't really want anything fixed. Maybe you just like to
bitch a lot. Well, that's why I haven't responded; nothing left to say.

 

[anesly]

How many times do I have to say "oh yeah you're right. Sorry that I am a liability to you holier-than-thou mages."

and

Therefore, not many melee have responded in any form; just mages (some who play melee but refuse to comment on THAT SIDE of it)

You keep trying to make this into a melee vs mage issue, and it's just simply not. When somebody brings unexpected aggro to a camp, it affects the whole party. When somebody dies on their way to camp, it delays and inconveniences the whole party. When someone takes a long-ass time to get to camp because they have to wait for mobs to move around so they can run past them while the rest of the party waits and twiddles their thumbs, it affects the whole party. And so on.

Melees did post in agreement. I don't know if you're just missing it or trying to ignore it, but the thread was about 50/50 melee to non-melee (with a big detour into SC stuff). And all the melees agreed that you should fucking carry oils/prisms/tonko. Don't believe me? It's 3 in the morning and work is slow, so here's some names. Non-melee responding: Cubswoo, Eni, Repsisa, Direwolf, Tiya, Neche, Alanon. Melee who responded: Ultraseven, Ezikiel, Krono, Flaruwuru, Sneakypants, Kelsilv, me. Plus Kat and Firestreak, who both have a 75 mage but also melee jobs (50 WAR and 73 PLD, respectively).

Good for you if you're good at avoiding aggro without them. But shit happens--and I'm not talking about super high level places. I'm about the same level as you are. I don't care if you're melee or mage; you should have these on you. Forgetting them or running out is one thing--no one's perfect. But making the conscious choice to not get them because there'll be mages there, or because the party might be not worth it (and I think that was the comment that got you all the heat), or whatever reason, is just boneheaded.

 

[Kat]

Friggin' kickass response Anesley!!!!

 

[Kat]

sorry added an extra "e" there ... Anesly

 

[Duffman]

melee vs mage? sorry but I didn't start that.
That was from the point of view from Vang, in the spirit of
"Hey mages don't you hate it when..."
Then goes on to make blanket statements about melee.

nope I didn't make it out to be that way. Oh and vang once again
is the one who planted the seed of the sam/sc thing. not me.

Sorry you wasted your time on your analysis of the thread.

 

[Duffman]

yeah people with melee jobs posted, but their responses were
from the point of view of mages.

"oh I can't be bothered to argue on the defense of melee. I'll
take the easy way out and forget the melee is in my sig."

 

[Kat]

yeah people with melee jobs posted, but their responses were
from the point of view of mages.

"oh I can't be bothered to argue on the defense of melee. I'll
take the easy way out and forget the melee is in my sig."

oh WTF????? please reread my post ...

As most of you know I'm a lvl 75 whm among other jobs. I NEVER "leave home" without my echo drops, prism powders, silent oils and food. These are a MUST, even for mages.

As far as melee's go, when you're in an xp party situation, we always had a system where a mage would sneak/invis one other person, (ie. a buddy system). It really helps when trying to get to the camp spot. But, if you melee's keep oils and powders on you, (cuz people do get separated) then you won't have to totally depend on your mage, and hence it may be the difference between life and death.

If you are doin' a mission or quest and have an alliance then by GOD you melee's better have your own powders and oils. It's just too friggin' hard to try and sneak/invis 12-18 people!!! And, you better have at least 2 stacks of each. If you're a mage, keep echo drops on you at ALL times. At least 1 stack. This also really makes a difference.

And that's my 2 gil on that subject. [\quote]

 

[Kat]

ugh Dammit :lol:!!! ... well you can still read the points in bold.

Sometimes I really hate that you can't edit .

 

[Camryn]

a Sam who didnt know any SC's?......

Lv60 PLD: "HOW DO I MACRO VKE!!!?!?!?111/!?11/1?1iamadipshit"

Dude.... a Sam who didnt know and SC'S?

Kill me now.

I've seen several :/

And today, I had the pleasure of partying with a PLD who didn't know how to participate in SATA (after giving up trying to get him to understand [and only getting him to stop provoking] we started trying to spring it on him, but he kept circling the mob... I got a lot of Evasion skill levels today!), didn't cure himself for hate.
We also had the worst DRK (scratch that - worst player) I have ever seen. It takes some effort to screw a party over as a DRK (whee, auto-attack all day long~~), but he graduated with flying colors.
Both were level 48.
I earned 150 exp in 3½ hours. Time of my life.

 

[vang]

melee vs mage? sorry but I didn't start that.
That was from the point of view from Vang, in the spirit of
"Hey mages don't you hate it when..."
Then goes on to make blanket statements about melee.

nope I didn't make it out to be that way. Oh and vang once again
is the one who planted the seed of the sam/sc thing. not me.

Sorry you wasted your time on your analysis of the thread.

All you keep doing is assuming I wanted to make this a mage vs melee thread so just drop your "assume" arguement please.

Oh and btw, you don't bring these items to xp partys.

So i guess my "assumptions" were right on a few huh?

If it makes you feel any better I wish I could just party with Rangers and Ninjas all day... 8)

 

[Duffman]

melee vs mage? sorry but I didn't start that.
That was from the point of view from Vang, in the spirit of
"Hey mages don't you hate it when..."
Then goes on to make blanket statements about melee.

nope I didn't make it out to be that way. Oh and vang once again
is the one who planted the seed of the sam/sc thing. not me.

Sorry you wasted your time on your analysis of the thread.

All you keep doing is assuming I wanted to make this a mage vs melee thread so just drop your "assume" arguement please.

Oh and btw, you don't bring these items to xp partys.

So i guess my "assumptions" were right on a few huh?

If it makes you feel any better I wish I could just party with Rangers and Ninjas all day... 8)

damn man, can we bury the hatchet already? YES! I said you were right about people leaning on mages. I brought some today for mission 5.1 and
it helped a lot.

but you have to go back to the actual title of the thread; that starts the
whole idea of this. "...all retarded melee..." then talks about how hard
it is for mages to do this for us. (that's where i'm getting it from).

No, we full melees (ones without mage jobs) do not know what a burden
it is on you. You didn't exactly come across all butter and cream. It was
pretty abrasive and inflamatory.

 

[xKronox]

Thf uses SATA, thf pulls, sam vokes, pld lines up, THF Attacks, Blm and rdm debuff, Sam uses meditate then solos or chains with PLD, If so blm and rdm burst. Sam Again uses tachi enpi, THF uses SATA viper bite. BLM and RDM MB.

No no, that better not be how it goes, since Duffman switched to Sam cause he didn't like doing the "SATA dance" as he calls it. :twisted:

(Sorry for the double post, forgot about this till I posted)

He switched to SAM/WAR because he didnt want to SATA? -.- omfg

 

[Lanien]

Yes, I guess that is what I meant in a manner of speaking, to at least have it readily available....it was more a figure of speech...and Lanien, you're a DRG right? Just another reason why more and more people are really starting to dislike DRG as a whole...there are good ones out there yes, but your attitude is Valkrum Dunesish at best.


The whole "It's my game, I pay, I'll do what I want" attitude was supposed to be loooong gone at 30 bro, get your shitty attitude in check. I can tell already what type of player you are and the gear you wear, I have you pegged...I'm sure the 5 people that you were lucky enough to even get a fucking invite from share your selfish views of and enjoy that attitude of yours.

:roll:

My gear is as good as it can get. Go ahead and "peg" me. If I'm not allowed to use my weapon skills, then what point is it for me to memorize it.

And this is a leisure game, not something that I wait for every single day to get on and plan my whole life around it. I have more important things to do. So I think I'll "peg" you as "No life outside FFXI." I think we're even now.

 

[Lanien]

I think it's kind of sad that as the blm, in the majority of my past few parties, I have been the one to come up with the SC/MB. I would expect at least sometimes when I say, "Alright, anyone know a SC off the top of their head before I go look?" for someone to say "Yea I remember the one we used... blah blah" instead of "kk,,. u go find one, tha sounds gewd". Or, in the parties I have come into which have already been fighting, for there to.. *gasp*.. already be a SC?!? No.. of course not...

(No offense to anyone I've partied with recently, I'm not talking about everyone, just a few people)

/em smacks head on computer screen.

It doesn't matter if the BLM decides the skillchain. Most of the time they know best which element a mob is weak too because that's what they do, nuke. Plus, at my level, they always want to test out their AM, so they already have a line of skillchains that will allow them to use their AM.

 

[Summerbreeze]

AMEN to telling people to bring their own sneak oils and prisim powders. I don't mind sneaking you, but you shouldn't depend on me for it. And you really shouldn't get pissed if you die because I couldn't get to you in time or something. Bring oils and powders for emergencys like that. It's hard enough to keep sneak/invis on myself. And if you want me to sneak you stay with me. I'm sick of trying to get to someone whose sneak wore, having mine wear, not having a safe place to cancel it and recast; and dying because you had to be cool and run off.

Like I said. I will take care of you if I CAN. I know oils cost money. It sucks. But bring some for backup ok?

 

[Duffman]

Thf uses SATA, thf pulls, sam vokes, pld lines up, THF Attacks, Blm and rdm debuff, Sam uses meditate then solos or chains with PLD, If so blm and rdm burst. Sam Again uses tachi enpi, THF uses SATA viper bite. BLM and RDM MB.

No no, that better not be how it goes, since Duffman switched to Sam cause he didn't like doing the "SATA dance" as he calls it. :twisted:

(Sorry for the double post, forgot about this till I posted)

He switched to SAM/WAR because he didnt want to SATA? -.- omfg

lol, yeah it's true. However that is a whole 'nother issue. If you want open a new post about it and i'll reply. This thread has too many issues
already.