Level your #*($@#($& subjobs!

Sorry for the double post. I just wanted to reiterate what I had already posted.

Kat said:
Agreed. You people saying that /smn is not a good sj for whm are obviously not in endgame yet and have no clue what is good and what is not.

There are several sj's for rdm in endgame. Drk being a very important one.



As far as blm goes /whm is the best sub NOT /rdm. But you should level both to at least 37.
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Kat said:
Odon liking it, and it being the best sub for the job are not the same thing MO.
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he likes it for a legit reason. not just because its a change of pace
 
Ok....like i posted earlier....Someone please give me some good reasons that it is better. Back up an arguement better then... "well so and so likes it better" or "It is the bestest sub !!!!"

I can be wrong... if im wrong give me reasons. Im not a mage type player. But in black and white comparing job abilities/spells. /RDM has nothing to offer.
 
Well if a BLM wanted to maybe solo a bit more it would prove very beneficial. Some examples of why Phalanx....oh and that one special dark spell BLM doesn't get but everyone loves Dispel. This one alone can prove as a better sub if your in a burn party especially. Everyone is so quick to think that RDM has no benefits just because it isn't the norm doesn't mean it can not be a viable /sub for any of the mage jobs out there.
 
Also MO, you do need to read the thread. It's not only talking about in experience type situations, but also has several posts about endgame situations.

Furthermore the original post is not about what subjobs go with what main, but to level them so they are EVEN with their main job, ie. to not be gimped with as a 30 Nin/05 War.

The thread has evolved from that point. Personally I feel you should always at least scan a thread before posting^^. It does help.
 
etchdog2000 said:
Ok....like i posted earlier....Someone please give me some good reasons that it is better. Back up an arguement better then... "well so and so likes it better" or "It is the bestest sub !!!!"

I can be wrong... if im wrong give me reasons. Im not a mage type player. But in black and white comparing job abilities/spells. /RDM has nothing to offer.
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fast cast, as already stated-phalanx, dispel, debuffing, more ancient magic dmg(according to odon)
 
One other thing I forgot to add, forgive the double post. RDM also gives a small boost to INT and since so many look down on a BLM/SMN (which is why some like this job) it still gives you the option to help back up cure where on SMN you can not unless you use a BloodPact....which in some cases is not the best back up cure plan.
 
Again, to reiterate also, I feel a person should level all viable subs for their main. Hence why I am leveling rdm to at least 37 at this point in time. I'm not saying /rdm isn't a good sub, but I am saying that /whm is the best sub for blm main.
 
RDM PROS

Fast Cast
Phalanx
Dispel
single Bar spells
Gravity

White Mage Pros
-aga spells
Divine Seal
-na spells
party bar spells


The person who said the first statement.....

RDM is proven to be the best sub for BLM.

In almost all party situations all the WHM pros apply with the exception of the bar spells.

How many of the RDM ones would apply in the majority of your play...maybe dispel? But in most play you have a RDM or BRD in party play. Even on end-game no RDM stuff applies however /WHM helps more end-game.

The statement made was blatantly false...
 
Kat said:
Also MO, you do need to read the thread. It's not only talking about in experience type situations, but also has several posts about endgame situations.

Furthermore the original post is not about what subjobs go with what main, but to level them so they are EVEN with their main job, ie. to not be gimped with as a 30 Nin/05 War.

The thread has evolved from that point. Personally I feel you should always at least scan a thread before posting^^. It does help.
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i know what the original post was. i can read. i did read it a week ago. but as we all know, people that havent been on the boards as long as others, mention topics that are years old and are beaten into the ground as it is. furthermore, if people dont want to invite people with gimp subs, DONT. quit your moaning and complaining. people are tired of it. i know i am. all you hear anymore is "omgz, so and so has a gimp sub, imz going crazy...whats this world coming to"

same old stories over and over. just as much as the gil seller topic. wonder how many more times that will be brought up. or as of recently the "the gil seller "whoever" admitted they sell gil".

for a while, my nin sub was gimped for rng. but you know, the few lvls it was down wasnt much different than using war sub.

so to all those that dont like unordinary subs in a party or underleveld subs....dont invite them if you wanna go with the trusty dusty party setup. but as for myself and a few others, leveling has come down to a grind and new things want to be tried. i want shit to be interesting. i will invite a person that uses a wierd combo as far as jobs. as far as underlvld sub goes, i could really care less. if they do their job and do it well, then kudos.

as far as this topic goes and people that want to argue it....STFU. its old news and its making my ears bleed
 
Most of the players that are above level 25 and have under-leveled subs are either lazy or careless. Those people should not be "carried" any further.

There are some that don't know any better. Then, the only way they find out is when someone /shouts: "Go level your subjob, you fucking noob!!" ...That's real nice to hear.

Here are a couple of stories that sort of relate...

A while back, I was soloing a bit in La Theine and there was a WAR soloing as well. He was level 20 and had no sub. I asked him, out of curiousity, why didn't he have his subjob yet?. He said he only partied once or twice and had a bad experience with the other players, each time. So he decided to just solo whenever he played. I told him that the jobs become much easier with a [properly leveled] subjob. I also offered to help get him the items needed and walk him through the quest. He declined and said he probably wasn't going to play the game much longer. I told him whenever he's on again, send me a /tell and I'll try to help him then. To which he replied, that he's not going to be playing at all any more and canceling his account. I haven't heard from him again.

On the other hand, one time I was getting ready to head out farming as a 50something DRG/15THF. While I was near the AH in Lower Jeuno, someone /checked me and said: "LOL... nobody is ever going to pick you for a party with that sub."

I replied: "Do you see my party flag up or a search comment that says I am looking for one?"

He says: "LOL.. No."

So I just said: "LOL then mind your fucking business!" and left it at that.

Anyways, I guess my "point" is... Ask, before you rip someone apart for being "gimp". Especially in the lower levels. Maybe they don't know the benefits or there may be a valid reason for it. Just yelling and humiliating them, won't help the matter.
 
masterorion said:
as far as this topic goes and people that want to argue it....STFU. its old news and its making my ears bleed
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<3 MO, you know this, but ...

stay outa the thread then^^.
 
When you have 15 Thf subbed Major they should've known then and there you were gonna be farming. I would've. He was just a stupid ass imho.
 
Kat said:
<3 MO, you know this, but ...

stay outa the thread then^^.
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it makes me twitch every time i come on qcdn and just see that the topic has new posts on it
 
Kat said:
When you have 15 Thf subbed Major they should've known then and there you were gonna be farming. I would've. He was just a stupid ass imho.
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I thought the same thing Kat. Which was why I didn't even bother to go /anon. The only thing I can give him credit for is doing it in /tell.
 
I get it. So it's okay to have an underleveled sub, but it's not okay to have an underleveled sub. Makes perfect sense to me. So people should use their remote server vision to know that just because your sub is underleveled your going to go farming. I say bullshit. From this point on everyone must use a fully leveled sub, even if all you're doing is bazaaring in Jeuno.
 
also, one other thing i thought of, if people complain about underlvld subs, why dont they complain about galka whm or taru pld?
 
Shaunessy said:
I get it. So it's okay to have an underleveled sub, but it's not okay to have an underleveled sub. Makes perfect sense to me. So people should use their remote server vision to know that just because your sub is underleveled your going to go farming. I say bullshit. From this point on everyone must use a fully leveled sub, even if all you're doing is bazaaring in Jeuno.
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Oh gg. Do you act stupid on purpose, or does it just come naturally? If you have /15 Thf subbed you are obviously goin' out to farm. Ya know, level Thf to 15 for TH1? Duhhhhhh.
 
masterorion said:
also, one other thing i thought of, if people complain about underlvld subs, why dont they complain about galka whm or taru pld?
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elf rdm... elf nin, elf rng, elf blm, elf smn, elf thf lol

why gimp the game by picking a job your RACE sucks at.
 
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