LOL OH STEAL KIRIN FROM BOL!!!

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woulda been straight if maybe you guys woulda "split" the drops... maybe gave them the osode and ya'll keep the rest.
 
just letting deci know: Tuesdays and Thursdays (and maybe mondays..) are when NH is up there.. But I believe only Thursday is when we do Kirin and generally up in sky between 3pm-9pm PST. Tuesday and Monday are pop items or other gods I believe.. but it'd be best to send a /tell to Caerloc, Onaule, Genna, or of coarse.. Maseki ^^
 
the wallet, from your reference, has gone away if you never recover it; so figuratively, it has depopped.

If my wallet will never be found, I couldn't care less if someone took the cash out of it. If my wallet dropped in the subway, if it was not stolen, it would likely be returned to me. That is the nature of the law. Hence if an owner cannot be found the property reverts to the person who found it.

like the question i've posed to daveman, what wrong would have happened if OH went on to finish their D2's and let BoL finish wiping? sure, there were other choices available ranging from splitting items or helping them out, but obviously those were put on the backburner when greed came into play.

for the purpose of this argument, as admitted by your LS leader, by BoL, they did wipe. If we simply let Kirin depop, would that have gotten a pole or osode for BoL? No. BoL was out of the picture. They weren't coming back into this fight until we killed all their pops for them and then handed them Kirin over. All there was, was us, and a unclaimed NM. What you're saying is we should have let the unclaimed NM respawn, simply because.. we didn't cause it to pop. That is just wasteful.
 
woulda been straight if maybe you guys woulda "split" the drops... maybe gave them the osode and ya'll keep the rest.

I'm leading more towards the reverse, that everything but the Osode could have gone to BoL. But the body it is too late for, and none of their members who could have used it were even around at its death, The pole can be returned, and Daveman has offered his pole, so I really think you can just back off that argument.
 
Firestreak said:
the wallet, from your reference, has gone away if you never recover it; so figuratively, it has depopped.

If my wallet will never be found, I couldn't care less if someone took the cash out of it. If my wallet dropped in the subway, if it was not stolen, it would likely be returned to me. That is the nature of the law. Hence if an owner cannot be found the property reverts to the person who found it.

ok, so why were the contents of this kirin not given back to it's owner?

Firestreak said:
like the question i've posed to daveman, what wrong would have happened if OH went on to finish their D2's and let BoL finish wiping? sure, there were other choices available ranging from splitting items or helping them out, but obviously those were put on the backburner when greed came into play.

for the purpose of this argument, as admitted by your LS leader, by BoL, they did wipe. If we simply let Kirin depop, would that have gotten a pole or osode for BoL? No. BoL was out of the picture. They weren't coming back into this fight until we killed all their pops for them and then handed them Kirin over. All there was, was us, and a unclaimed NM. What you're saying is we should have let the unclaimed NM respawn, simply because.. we didn't cause it to pop. That is just wasteful.

lol, and what's wrong with helping them with it as stated above? of course that never crossed your mind...
 
This guy started talking to me when I logged on a second ago...

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Firestreak said:
the wallet, from your reference, has gone away if you never recover it; so figuratively, it has depopped.

If my wallet will never be found, I couldn't care less if someone took the cash out of it. If my wallet dropped in the subway, if it was not stolen, it would likely be returned to me. That is the nature of the law. Hence if an owner cannot be found the property reverts to the person who found it.

like the question i've posed to daveman, what wrong would have happened if OH went on to finish their D2's and let BoL finish wiping? sure, there were other choices available ranging from splitting items or helping them out, but obviously those were put on the backburner when greed came into play.

for the purpose of this argument, as admitted by your LS leader, by BoL, they did wipe. If we simply let Kirin depop, would that have gotten a pole or osode for BoL? No. BoL was out of the picture. They weren't coming back into this fight until we killed all their pops for them and then handed them Kirin over. All there was, was us, and a unclaimed NM. What you're saying is we should have let the unclaimed NM respawn, simply because.. we didn't cause it to pop. That is just wasteful.
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i believe it was Magicbear who was shouting telling us how to fight kirin when we were fighting our first one, telling us to gravity kirin. anyways, shortly after we claimed kirin and killed the pops, bol started to d2. except dowzer. word from bol was he were going to claim and CFH. he stayed behind and kirin went unclaimed and dowzer stunned it. but died 1/2 a second later. people really shouldnt argue about shit when they dont know the whole story. dowzer was on kirins back the rest of the fight. maybe we did think of giving them some items, but when u have confrontations with Lses, mainly bol at aspidcamp, and the little chat before bol popped kirin, things tend to catch up with you.
 
ok, so why were the contents of this kirin not given back to it's owner?

Why would they be, if you believe that by wiping and being unable to recover, you believe that your fight it over, what was taken from BoL except for their pride?

lol, and what's wrong with helping them with it as stated above? of course that never crossed your mind...

Failing to help someone in need makes you merely indifferent. It is not good or bad. We are not posting here saying what we did was great and we deserve medals. We are posting here defending ourselves as not thieves. As such the burden is on the accusser to prove we are in fact thieves, not us to prove we are saints.
 
We told Magic to shut the fuck up so many times... so i dunno. Like I said, if you expect people to act like shit is fine and dandy after your leader lied about the amount of Kirins being popped, then go for it. I myself would not have been surprised if that shit went orange, but whatever is whatever dude. Grats on the drops and lets hope shit like this never happens again.
 
Anyways.. aside from all this arguement.. Deci, you think you have a time you know BoL can do Kirin without people around? just incase you didn't see

I'll put it in EST time since most people are EST from my experience >.>

Valkrys - 7pm-? on Sunday
OH - 1-7pm on Saturday
NH - 6pm-midnight on Thursday
RevESP - I dunno x.x
Kaizen - no idea :\
Affinity - ya got me there :\

so ya.. atleast 3 of the God LS times you know for kirin. The others you'll have to ask their respected leaders. Just one note though.. look at what cohibu posted, Firestreak.. that's my problem.. he never wanted to act like the bigger person and settle past problems and even petty stupid things said and atleast give them something for their troubles. Oh well. Time to browse more x.x
 
Elemmire said:
I'll put it in EST time since most people are EST from my experience >.>

Valkrys - 7pm-? on Sunday
OH - 1-7pm on Saturday
NH - 6pm-midnight on Thursday
RevESP - I dunno x.x
Kaizen - no idea :\
Affinity - ya got me there :\

affinity usually does kirin on monday nights, however, we will be there at least 3 weeknight days this week i believe.
 
Well there ya go :D anyways... throw in SoraNoHi to the list. I am a bit tired so I forgot them x.x and I'm sure I forgot others. We should really have a thread stickied where the LS that do gods can post when they atleast do kirin so we can stay outta the way for that.
 
Firestreak said:
ok, so why were the contents of this kirin not given back to it's owner?

Why would they be, if you believe that by wiping and being unable to recover, you believe that your fight it over, what was taken from BoL except for their pride?

you already established that losing a wallet can be like losing kirin. at the time you have may or may not have any control to recover it. that doesn't give a bystander the right to pilfer it while it is not in the control of the owner.

Firestreak said:
lol, and what's wrong with helping them with it as stated above? of course that never crossed your mind...

Failing to help someone in need makes you merely indifferent. It is not good or bad. We are not posting here saying what we did was great and we deserve medals. We are posting here defending ourselves as not thieves. As such the burden is on the accusser to prove we are in fact thieves, not us to prove we are saints.

read the goodtimes forums.
 
Decidence said:


If I was there, I woulda called the crap outa Kirin. That's my bad :?


I actually read the entire thread, that is a test of endurance.

Let it drop, I don't think my eyes can take another 29pages of people jibber jabbering.
 
i told daveman and moev to edit their posts. moev has yet to do so, must be asleep.
 
Those were two posts, from two members of a shell that has quite a few members. Me and moeve don't represent the ls as a whole, and I've apoligized for the post, yes it was in bad taste and I shouldn't of done that, I'm sorry.
 
Anyways.. who's up for making a thread stickied in the linkshell's section or something.. Or maybe a new forum section down in the linkshells area that includes all Sky LSs or any LS involved in sky. This way we could atleast set up times where we all get a shot at kirin. Let's learn from past mistakes atleast.. work something out.. eh?
 
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