Metal Gear Solid 4 - Official Thread

MGS4 is definitely is the best looking game to date. I don't know what game you are looking at Osyris

Dude i know how this works... What ever the new cool game is... Thats the best looking game to date eh? There are alot of flaws in the game visualy if we want to get picky. Not as much as CoD4 but still... First we can talk about how its not even in true HD. The image is stretched to fit screen... Then we can talk about how there is no AA and an unstable frame rate. They should have just locked the game at 30FPS if the PS3 could not handle 60 consistantly, instead it bounces all over from 30-60... Majority in 30s.

I am not saying this game looks bad because we can see it does not for sure. Just dont go claiming the new hot game is the best visual game you have ever seen. Makes you seem so silly. Again... I think this game looks fine, there are some good visuals. Yet i am no fanboy and wont go making false claims. This is not the best looking game to date.
 
So tell me what game out there runs at "True HD"? Not sure what you mean by that.

MGS4 is done at 768P which is one of the best vertical resolutions to upscale to 1080P from. Sure, no AA, but it still looks better and doesn't need to use the ghosting effects you see in games like DMC4. Sure, the framerate drops down to the 30s sometimes in high action sequences, but nothing visually is lost.

I am no PS3 or MGS fanboy, but I know a great looking game when I see one. MGS4 is the best looking console game I have played. (Not counting PC btw)
 
Oh, and after a little research, i.e. like a minute, it turns out instead of normal AA, it uses an affect called intelligent temporal AA or what they simply call themselves "Jaggle reduction" What it does (from my understanding) is it takes half pixels around the edges of character models and objects, and sort of blurs it together so you won't get pops and stuff like that. During fast character and camera movements, it will actually turn this off so you don't get motion blur.
 
i agree with lanien here this best lookin console game ive played. i like to think RE5 looks a nicer though, but thats not out for a while so who knows o-o?
 
What do there dolls do? I never even touched octo with a tranq and i got the face camo deal.

NVM I tranq'd the raven bitch and now i see what you mean by the face camo. But still what do the dolls do?

Also is it just me or is (kinda spoiler)

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Act 3 pretty much all cutscenes? Follow the guy, CS, Do the bike part, CS, Fight the boos, LONG ASS CS. I mean, i don't mind the long cs's and i love the story, but some gameplay thrown in there would be nice too.
 
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Act 3 pretty much all cutscenes? Follow the guy, CS, Do the bike part, CS, Fight the boos, LONG ASS CS. I mean, i don't mind the long cs's and i love the story, but some gameplay thrown in there would be nice too.

Yeah, I agree. But the CS were worth it to find out....

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that the darpa chief was actually Sigint


Also, I still hate Eva.
 
Yeah, I agree. But the CS were worth it to find out....

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that the darpa chief was actually Sigint


Also, I still hate Eva.

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Dont forget that para-medic was Dr. Clark, who Gray Fox killed for performing experiments on him and etc
 
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Dont forget that para-medic was Dr. Clark, who Gray Fox killed for performing experiments on him and etc

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Yeah, although they kind of messed up a bit, since Dr. Clark in MGS1 was a man. At least that's how I remember it, I'm gonna do a Binge of MGS 1-4 once I finish MGS4

Also, Factoid: All of the Beauties have a dual-voice thing going in their suits. The voice of the actress (And the voice when they're outside of the suit,) And another voice overlayed ontop of it. The second voice is the actor/actress who played their counterparts in MGS1, (In the case of Raven, its the voice actor from Twin Snakes)

At least thats what it seems like, haven't had a chance to get 100% confirmation
 
We make look for different things visually. To me I look at smoothness, detail and scope. What a lot of games do that make people go "wow that looks great" is add a lot of unnatural special affects, mostly in the form of filters, and they pump up a lot of the camera stats above how they really would look. That's why you get "shiny" plastic like characters with lots of weird visual affects that look cool but if you were watching a movie instead of playing a game you might question.

Metal Gear Solid shows it can do all the visual affects, by displaying them... a little bit, when they're needed. If you look closely, you'll see specks of dust in the air, things of that nature. They're just not over pronounced to show off, rather put out when ACTUALLY needed. All the visuals in MGS4 are subtle, but upon careful inspection... there.

The level of detail is huge, so much so that you won't even realize it until you look closely at every set piece. There were no cut corners, you zoom in and the detail keeps getting better. You look at anything for long enough and it looks real.

Other games are good at looking good... as the play through them in motion. Hell, Ninja Gaiden 2, which just got all sorts of praises for visuals, is just really unnaturally smooth and unnaturally shiny. There's no level of detail at all, not on the characters or the environment. It's corner cutting. You move so fast you probably won't notice.... or you like shiny, smooth things and don't care.

I've noticed this with a LOT of games. They crank up the AA, increase the light reflection of the characters past realistic, throw on some cool looking visual effect filters and nobody notices their tons of flaws.

Metal Gear Solid 4 is trying to look realistic. And for the record, it's Halo 3 that's actually not HD, not MSG4. If you're expecting native 1080P, are probably unknowingly counting out pretty much every game you would consider top tier.

As for every new game of the moment getting hailed the best looking, it's because these games keep topping each other visually. I don't expect MGS4 to remain on top for long, by the end of the year it'll probably belong to Gears of War 2, but have to see these games on my own TV to judge, being played. Not videos.
 
I don't think even Osyris thinks Halo 3 is top tier in graphics :P most tend to agree it's nothing too impressive, graphicly
 
Kojima = a god. If I could I'd sacrifice a new born child to worship him, I would.
 
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Dude i know how this works... What ever the new cool game is... Thats the best looking game to date eh? There are alot of flaws in the game visualy if we want to get picky. Not as much as CoD4 but still... First we can talk about how its not even in true HD. The image is stretched to fit screen... Then we can talk about how there is no AA and an unstable frame rate. They should have just locked the game at 30FPS if the PS3 could not handle 60 consistantly, instead it bounces all over from 30-60... Majority in 30s.

I am not saying this game looks bad because we can see it does not for sure. Just dont go claiming the new hot game is the best visual game you have ever seen. Makes you seem so silly. Again... I think this game looks fine, there are some good visuals. Yet i am no fanboy and wont go making false claims. This is not the best looking game to date.

dude seriously, stop fucking shitting all over our parade, a couple of us may be fanboys, some of us maybe are hardcore fans of the series or what have you nevertheless we're all really excited playing this game,

stop trying to fucking sabotage our good time
 
I've just been skipping over Osy's posts. No reason to read em IMO. I enjoy the game. I love the game. Fuck, I lost the game. The graphics are truly amazing, the gameplay is godly(though, I always have trouble trying to crawl), storyline is super special awesome, and everything about it is fucking fantastic.

Just ignore him and let's continue to praise Kojima :D
 
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dude seriously, stop fucking shitting all over our parade, a couple of us may be fanboys, some of us maybe are hardcore fans of the series or what have you nevertheless we're all really excited playing this game,

stop trying to fucking sabotage our good time
It's an opinion as much as everyone else's posts in this thread are an opinion. He should be able to post his thoughts on a game, good or bad.
Only reason I don't say anything is because I haven't really touched the MGS series outside of 3.
 
I've just been skipping over Osy's posts. No reason to read em IMO. I enjoy the game. I love the game. Fuck, I lost the game. The graphics are truly amazing, the gameplay is godly(though, I always have trouble trying to crawl), storyline is super special awesome, and everything about it is fucking fantastic.

Just ignore him and let's continue to praise Kogima :D

Who the fuck is Kogima?

You can go worship him all you want. Me, I like KoJima...
 
Osy isn't shitting over the game. He said he actually enjoyed it. You can't disagree with someone's opinion of how fun something is. It's however fun it is to that specific person. I'm just saying I think he's overlooking all the subtle nuances to the MGS4 graphic's. The game is trying to look as much like real life as possible, and I don't think I've seen any games come as close as MGS4. Some games might look prettier, because that's the art direction they're going for, and they're trying to look flashy not realistic, but I think with a keen eye, if you look at MGS4 as just a piece of visual technology, it's the best so far. Saying it's just above par is just wrong. Doesn't mean he's trolling or any of that bullshit.

By the way, I beat it last night, and started the game on the hardest difficulty which got unlocked. It's crazy how much smarter the AI is. They're almost as smart as people... people with very short term memories.
 
No myrrh, you do NOT misspell the Kojima. And Act 3 was my least favorite so far, awesome story, but not enough gameplay. I'll play Act 4 and probably Act 5 tonight.
 
Act 5 > Act 4 > Act 2 > Act 1 > Act 3. But Act 3 was still great... just the first half was less action packed. I think it actually was good pacing though, you can't be in a warzone the entire game.
 
Anyone else's hate for Raiden grow even more with this game?
 
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