More Sony Mishaps

Elemmire said:
wait.. that's price cut for PS3 in Japan only it seems... or am I just reading wrong? do I need to take a reading comprehensive class? D:
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It shows the price in US Yen, but it doesnt make any sense to drop it in Japan and keep it the same here, since people would just Import.
 
The price drop was only for the core system, which has basically nothing in it; so they lowered the price on the unit that no one was going to buy.
 
there will definetely be people that will buy that core system now though :P but oh well.. I wonder if they will lower the units with more now if they can.. and if it will really be other markets than Japan's where it'll go down.. though it seems they say it's up to retailers in stores.. hmmm
 
They left the pricing of the larger unit to the sellers, so i doubt that it will remain at the current price range. Likely falling in relation to the core unit.
 
ah.. I see.. ya.. they prolly will lower the price tags a bit. They know it'd sell more if they did :P but still.. this is the japan market.. x.x
 
Marajade said:
4 million North American Units? Or Worldwide.
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United States, Europe, and Japan. Regardless of that, it's still Twenty times as much as the Worldwide Unit shipment of The Playstation 3, which remember, cut out the European Market from initial launch.


I'm suprised you still have faith in the PS3, seeing as how Sony has done every attempt to screw themselves. From starting production extremely late. Cutting down initial shipment size to both the United States and Japan. And removing an entire continent from their initial line up. I really doubt many Europeans are happy about that. To Europes defense, it gives them time to see how badly the system tanks due to popularity of the Wii and the 360, and which route developers decide to take their path on the PS3. Or perhaps a combination of both.

If more developers find the micropayment plan set forth in Gran Turismo HD, which is basically a glorified beta for Gran Turismo 5, to be a good idea, you will see it occuring frequently on the Playstation 3. Don't be suprised if Final Fantasy 14 requires $5 to allow a character to join your party. Thats not to say companies developing on the Wii or the 360 can't do the same thing, but consumer numbers are the ultimate power. If anyones happy about Sony, or the Gran Turismo plan, they're a select few. Any real gamer can, and should be, disgusted by Sony and their exclusive developers marketing right now.

Most people can only name 3 or 4 titles for the Playstation 3 that they're planning to buy. Few, if any, will be available during the launch window. I, and most likely others, can name and least twice as many titles for the Wii. And most, if not all, fall within the launch window.

I reiterate. I'm suprised you still have faith in the Playstation 3.

I see the price cut as more of an apology strictly to the Japanese, for giving them far less consoles. Theres still American and European Videogame Journalists attending the TGS, which would make one wonder exactly why it's not announced as a global reduction from the start.
 
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hehe... depends on the person I guess.. right now when it comes to Wii games and PS3 games it's about equal of games I'm interested in getting. But that's me, personally, hehe... and I dunno.. maybe they are thinking it might not sell well so rather than ship 4mil ship 2mil (or whatever numbers) and see if those sell rather than waste money on production or shipping costs and whatnot.. who knows.. we'll just have to see if there's actually a plan here >.> but it does seem like they might just be pushing the limits.. hmm
 
Elemmire said:
hehe... depends on the person I guess.. right now when it comes to Wii games and PS3 games it's about equal of games I'm interested in getting. But that's me, personally, hehe... and I dunno.. maybe they are thinking it might not sell well so rather than ship 4mil ship 2mil (or whatever numbers) and see if those sell rather than waste money on production or shipping costs and whatnot.. who knows.. we'll just have to see if there's actually a plan here >.> but it does seem like they might just be pushing the limits.. hmm
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That's called a retarded marketing strategy, and it's not what they're doing. Given that they sold around 50 million PS2's they can expect to see a couple million buying it just off brand recognition. They fucked up, there is no plan to wait and see how many they need to make in the future to sell them, no company that markets to the masses ever does that, only companies on a contract do. Sony dropped the ball and Nintendo's picking it up.
 
HA HA HA.

Oh geez, it hurts to laugh/be spot on this much.

If you're smart, you will not buy this machine, seeing as how Sony's fucking their fans even more every other day.
 
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just to think, at one point i had huge hopes for this machine, and now i have bigger hopes most games will come to 360 instead.
Its like everyday they do something dumber than the day before...
 
There are no plans to lower prices in the U.S. or other markets, Sony spokeswoman Nanako Kato said.
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LOL, so wait, what was that, meeze?
 
www.the-magicbox.com said:
Ken Kutaragi mentioned that Sony is planning to offer downloadable PSone and PS2 games, but price, titles and details are not yet available.
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www.the-magicbox.com said:
Ken Kutaragi also mentioned PlayStation 3 will be able to download and playback classic 16-bit Mega Drive (Genesis) and PC-Engine (Turbografx) titles, it is also possible to play a small fee to play certain time-limited game demos
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Yet another "original" idea by sony, they're really grasping for straws to get anyone to want to buy their console.
 
hehe... come on Baja.. it wasn't original of Nintendo to have that either :P Genesis channel ftw! (though it is amusing Sony seems to be having that option after Nintendo announced it)

and hmm.. maybe there was a trade quota change so they aren't allowed to ship that many PS3's next year? I really am confused with Sony's reasons.. hmmm
 
Elemmire said:
hehe... come on Baja.. it wasn't original of Nintendo to have that either :P Genesis channel ftw! (though it is amusing Sony seems to be having that option after Nintendo announced it)

and hmm.. maybe there was a trade quota change so they aren't allowed to ship that many PS3's next year? I really am confused with Sony's reasons.. hmmm
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No, they FUCKED UP THEIR MANUFACTURING. Seriously, everyone else knows this and has said so in this thread but you're just not listening and you need to start. They didn't give enough time to make enough PS3's for a proper launch, so they're launching the small number of units they have so that they'll still meet their launch date. It's 100% sony's fault, they fucked up, no "marketing strategy," no international trade regulation changes, sony fucked up. If there were any international trade chanes, then Nintendo wouldn't be able to ship milions of units to America, so that's obviously not it.

As for the genesis channel, how did it let you download games from previous consoles, wasn't the genesis Sega's first console? Was it a method to download old games, or just a new distribution method, if it's distribution then it's a different idea.
 
Bajaratt said:
As for the genesis channel, how did it let you download games from previous consoles, wasn't the genesis Sega's first console? Was it a method to download old games, or just a new distribution method, if it's distribution then it's a different idea.
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Logicly, since there wasnt any older system by Sega, it could be considered the same idea, just with different applications.

And downloadable content is nothing new, PC has been doing it for years.

And I'm still going with the PS3, because Going from the games currently confirmed for it, I'll get my money's worth. Wii turned me off with its Name, fucked up controller, and no games i'd play for longer than a day.
 
lol xbox already has that feature with the marketplace, and its free to download the demos and try them out before you buy. Its one of my fave features, its even made me change my mind about some games i would have bought...like Ninety Nine Nights, Totally wasnt what i expected.
this week on the market place they have an event called Bringing It Home.
Where you can download video trailers, Game demos, picture packs, Map packs etc. all from TGS 2006, One week, over 100 downloads. I love it.
 
For the general public who doesnt follow every game newswebsite, or who is up to date with what Sony is doing, its still the PS3. THe PS2 is by far the most popular system, and it makes sense taht most ppl will still buy the PS3 on name alone. Most of my friends are going to get it, they dont care for the cost.
And while yeah 600 is alot straight up for a console, most ppl spent up to $3000 for a laptop JUST to play games. I live in a military base and I see taht alot. They take out a lone for like 2k to buy a laptop that has a "good video engine" just to play games. SO whats so bad about spending 600? And yes I know you can do alot more with a computer, but is $2000 worth the price of a machine you got *primarily* to play games?
 
Baja, that's what people say in this thread, I don't necessarily take it as fact.. I haven't read an article yet where sony said they fucked up with not making enough for launch so they are lowering the numbers (Then again, I haven't really been keeping up that much on news with the new systems for the last several months). I don't take things in forums as facts especially from anyone I've seen just slam other systems because it's not made by the company they like the most. (and before you start saying I do that, I don't.. I admit that Nintendo's gamecube is superior in technology than the PS2 but I just don't find most of the games fun.. and I don't like the PS2's sensativity, not as durable as Xbox or Gamecube, but I don't move it that much and it is a piece of electronic equipment so I understand it requires some padding, even if it's more work. If nintendo gets more games that will interest me I'll probably play the Wii far more than any other system).
 
Elemmire said:
Baja, that's what people say in this thread, I don't necessarily take it as fact.. I haven't read an article yet where sony said they fucked up with not making enough for launch so they are lowering the numbers (Then again, I haven't really been keeping up that much on news with the new systems for the last several months). I don't take things in forums as facts especially from anyone I've seen just slam other systems because it's not made by the company they like the most. (and before you start saying I do that, I don't.. I admit that Nintendo's gamecube is superior in technology than the PS2 but I just don't find most of the games fun.. and I don't like the PS2's sensativity, not as durable as Xbox or Gamecube, but I don't move it that much and it is a piece of electronic equipment so I understand it requires some padding, even if it's more work. If nintendo gets more games that will interest me I'll probably play the Wii far more than any other system).
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When the manufacturing thing came out, I believe there was an article attatched, which is why everyone believes it; and don't just say the article could be fake. Even if the manufacturing reason was a lie, your reasons for why Sony is shipping barely any units have no thought put into them and are obviously wrong as I've shown already.

You obviously haven't been paying atttention for months, because there has been hardly any "fuck XXX company because YYY company is the best for no reason other than they're YYY(ie. fanboyism)" going on for months, yet you're still under the impression that it's the only thing being said here. People are looking at the press releases, the facts, and are forming opinions based on those facts. Looking at the official press releases, sony is blatantly trying to rip-off anything from their competitors they can to make their console seem appealing because of the other press releases showing how fucked they are. When the people who a year ago were exteremely gung-ho about the PS3 are starting to say "fuck that" because of the information coming out about the PS3, then there's obviously something legitmately wrong with the console or the company.
 
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