Wouldn't cross my fingers on that....
Wouldn't cross my fingers on that....
Don't make up shit now, you specifically said in the thread you didn't want to buy a "harby", I'm not looking for stuff to "argo" with you about, just commenting about you claiming to take pride in your gear.
When you asked about that EQ it had already been out almost a year, if it was superior to "harby" it would have been well documented by now.
Well documented through the use of cheating parses!!!! OMG da hax!
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Why would you spend 30 minutes on the dragons alone?
The only reason why I would think you would need 2hr ability or barrage to make sure that the stone dies quick is because you're sac pulling the first extention.
If we sac the first extention that would save even more time, so no, the 2hr ability would not be back up. In general we kill the mobs at the first extention for more af chance. We don't have to use any quick ability to kill the stone like chainspell or barrage because we deal with the pops from the eyes.
If you waste your 2hr at the start, and then its not ready at DL, you're just wasting time you could be farming AF waiting for recast. If all other conditions remain the same, and you aren't sac pulling the first extention, then there's no reason to use your 2hr at the start; firstly because there is no need to worry about a train, and secondly because of the chance that you may clear the way up to DL in less than 2hrs. This is even more obvious when you take into the account that you can do much more farming up to DL if you don't sac everything on the way and still make it up to DL in less than 2hrs.
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It's a waste because Barrage can be used and ready again in a few moments. If an alternate situation pops up where Chainspell would've saved the shell, but it's now on a cooldown because it was used on something as dumb as a statue...then your shell wipes.
Many 2h abilities are for -emergencies-. You shouldn't use them just because they're up because then you're prone to disaster for the next 2 hours, and it will in fact be one of the main things a person can blame if the situation arises.
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id hit it
Because there are 10 drg + Ying-Yang + preparation for DL fight.
Scenario 1 : Your dumb rdm uses 2H in the first minutes, then it is ready for DL, unless your shell is the ubber coolish shell that kills DL with 2H left.
Scenario 2 : Your clever rdm keeps his 2H and does CS raise (only way to save LS with 2H) because all but this rdm wiped. 2H not ready for DL.
Choose.
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Yes, you could be farming AF instead of waiting. So why don't you? Yo usay you reach Dynamis Lord within 2 hours, which leaves you 1 horu 30 min to kill Dynamis. So you could easily farm before going to Dynamis Lord, waiting for the RDM's 2-hour to recharge.
Both of you are still assuming all shells have a RNG. My shell doesn't, hence why we chainspell nuke it.
Why are we arguing about Dynamis in a Morrigan Robe thread?
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As uzor said we dont have ranger so rdm 2h or sac pull are the only way to get this ext fast. and rdm 2H is the fastest. Also why would you farm these mobs from the first extension when there is a lot more easy spots where to farm? if i remember this ext pop BST and wyverns, hard to kill, and pets don't drop anything if i recall well (at least no AF). you cant possibly pull here withought aggroing everything I think, so unless your shell have tons of members (uzor's ls has 25-30 on xarcabard runs), you skip them. The eyes near tele-vahzl and relic shield and wall of eyes are easier to farm. We use rdm 2H on first extension, it takes us roughly 2hours to farm the 8 eyes in tele-vahzl area, the 15 NMs and to clear the wall of eye. After that we have 1:30 to either farm more or DL attempt.
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Isn't this what Villurum said? And yet Pchan continued to state that it was stupid to use an ability such as barrage with a shorter recast if it was available, or to not even have to use 2hr to kill it if you have enough to take care of the surrounding mobs if you don't sac the stone? This is more about Pchan being an idiot than it is about the "right" strat for how to go about doing dynamis or extentions.
The pull itself is not so difficult to deal with if you have blms help with sleep instead of damaging and melee deal with the eyes.
As for taking 30 minutes on the Shadow Dragons, it's not necessary to kill all of them, and even then, should only take about 2 volleys of tier 4s, which is only about 1 min and a half of resting mp without any sort of refresh. And Y&Y can be taken down very fast as well...
While it would also be possible to farm until 2hrs are ready, generally we prioritize DL and that's why we do the majority of the farming afterwards.
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If your linkshell doesn't have a ranger Uzor, then that explains your strategy of using chain spell to get the extension. Pchan could have easily made himself not look like an idiot if he only said this, instead(while looking like an idiot) he carried on about how chain spell was just as good or an even better option than barrage for getting the extension.
Knowing more about your linkshell, the idea seems more reasonable; however you might not want to let a moron speak for your group like he's the leader. It's a bad image, like Peregrine was for Invictus; only with him actually being the leader it made it worse.
Knowing more about your linkshell, the idea seems more reasonable; however you might not want to let a moron speak for your group like he's the leader. It's a bad image, like Peregrine was for Invictus; only with him actually being the leader it made it worse.
How did this discussion turn into a topic about Dynamis? lol derail
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It had something to do with Pchan thinking the only reason for chainspell is to chain nuke something down.
We all know the only reason for Chainspell is to spam Banish for Divine Magic skill.
I never said using rng is stupid, read what i say. Everyone else said using rdm 2H is stupid because .... You could use it for chainspell raise with made me LOL, because if u use it this way you won't get DL, and if u wipe in Xarc, your prolly can't take DL ..
Give argument instead of bullshittting like this. Why is this piece bad or worse than another one ? I repeat Chasuble is a good piece and i explained why earlier.
So say the guys that claimed that WAR > PUP in salvage (with wpn, ability, gears and DESTROYERS lol).
You too don't make me say that rdm's 2H > rng's barrage on first extension. Never said that. Hell this is the opposite, i've ben trying to explain why the use of rdm' s 2H is a good thing and yet everyone seem to disagree for stupid stuff like chainspell raise.
You know the fact other shell do in another way that you doesn't mean it's worse. What matters, is that this fucking extension is killed.
rdm noob 1 : wtf do rdm need nuke
rdm 2 : chainspell nuke does 10K dmg and this pisses off the monks
rdms noobs n, and non rdm : blabla chainspell Raise, keep your 2H in case your shell wipes (which still makes me LOL)
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Who said anything about Chainspell Raise on the way to Dynamis Lord? Last I checked, there were other Dynamis areas besides Xarcabard, and there was time in Xarcabard after DL (in case he keels over before all Chainspells are used). If you're going to use Chainspell in Xarcabard and still have it up for DL, then you pretty much have to use it *right* at the beginning, or you have to take your sweet time getting to DL (or both).
I'll acknowledge your point that *if* you have no RNG and *if* it takes you 2 hours after that first extension (which keep in mind, is like 5 or 10 minutes or so after hourglass trading and the timer actually starts, so be sure to factor that into the math when talking about hitting DL with such-and-such left on the clock) to actually get to DL himself, then yes, it's quite viable to Chainspell nuke that first extension.
If, however, your shell is speedier than that and/or has a RNG, then you don't want to do that. No, it's not because you'll be using Chainspell some other time between then and DL (because then you'll *really* be waiting for its recast), but because in *case* you get to DL reasonably quickly, you don't want to have to wait for the recast in the first place. (Though I suppose if there were a Besieged going on, you could D2 someone out there and make them munch a Revitalizer and then have them come back to Dynamis.)
I'll acknowledge your point that *if* you have no RNG and *if* it takes you 2 hours after that first extension (which keep in mind, is like 5 or 10 minutes or so after hourglass trading and the timer actually starts, so be sure to factor that into the math when talking about hitting DL with such-and-such left on the clock) to actually get to DL himself, then yes, it's quite viable to Chainspell nuke that first extension.
If, however, your shell is speedier than that and/or has a RNG, then you don't want to do that. No, it's not because you'll be using Chainspell some other time between then and DL (because then you'll *really* be waiting for its recast), but because in *case* you get to DL reasonably quickly, you don't want to have to wait for the recast in the first place. (Though I suppose if there were a Besieged going on, you could D2 someone out there and make them munch a Revitalizer and then have them come back to Dynamis.)
Ppl keep telling me it's stupid to use 2H at start because it could be used in case of "danger". Why is it it stupid if you don't want to use it in the next 2 hours ..
Did you follow the discussion ? I'm talking about first extension. Enter, run, chainspell , Nuke. 3 minutes have passed top. As i said earlier, i want to see a shell wiping dynamis lord 1H30 after dynamis start ...
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What confuses me, is Chainspell kills it fast, but it fact not instantly like Barrage or perhaps an AM2 would. Wouldn't this mean the RDM agros and winds up dying? Just curious.
Also, Errant Houppelande gives the same Magic Accuracy overall as a Chasuble, I believe, plus potency from increasing the raw stat. So unless you're interested in the 20mp or not-getting reduced melee stats (...), Errant is entirely better.
Also, Errant Houppelande gives the same Magic Accuracy overall as a Chasuble, I believe, plus potency from increasing the raw stat. So unless you're interested in the 20mp or not-getting reduced melee stats (...), Errant is entirely better.
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But then again, then we go in to the matter of INT giving Magic Accuracy, which some people in this thread have debated against. So in that case you'd argue agaisnt them aswell, and beat their argument that Morrigan and Igqira have similar magic accuracy 