Nerf Treasure Hunter!!

Firestreak

Firestreak

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I've been thinking about it. And you're all right. It's so wrong that BLM have for so long been exploiting the poor melee jobs. It's wrong for us to use our BLM abilities, to try and win BCs, KS30s and even *gasp* missions. It's wrong because, apparently, even though we're not NEEDED, the fact that we are good at what we do, it hurts those poor melees. It hurts them because it discourages them, and we take up their slots.

And so I realized, I should play BLM only for the repeatative macro motions I do over and over again, and because I enjoy control 5, 6, 5, 6 over and over - and the occasional control 7. Wanting to be successful is apparently a wrong motivation and therefore we should be punished. As some said, who I thought before this realization were dumb assholes, we are like cheaters! Damn us! Damn us all to hell!!!

And so we look to the new injustice in this game, as that book is now closed... treasure hunter! For so long, fucking assholes like Peregrine have polluted our NM camps with their THF abilities. My blackmage cannot solo NMs as good as a thief, therefore we should nerf their solo ability. My blackmage cannot get drop as well as thieves, therefore we should get rid of treasure hunter.

Afterall, to be a Dynamis puller, and get Thief knife bought for me by my LS, I need to be a THF. That is injustice! I should be able to level BLM for hunting NMs, just as well as THFs should be able to be just as useful as me in BCs! Afterall, divesity is horrible. Having strengths and weaknesses is horrible. We should only pick our jobs based on our enjoyment level of pressing control 4, 5, 6 as opposed to only pressing control 1 and then control 2 when the timer is up.

So join me on my quest to make FF bland, unoriginal and the exact same play experience for all people, regardless of their preference and regardless of their intentions when they start playing.

VIVA LA NERF REVOLUTION!!!!!!
 
Good luck killing shit once BLMs are nerfed. there isn't enough summoners to go around weeeeeeeeee
 
Odon said:
Good luck killing shit once BLMs are nerfed. there isn't enough summoners to go around weeeeeeeeee
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Wait 3 months, there will be.
 
Raesvelg said:
Wait 3 months, there will be.
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No there wont. Good luck getting SMNs to join an end game shell unless they have another job levelled. Bar Shikigami Weapon, there are no NMs that drop anything we would want, and there is nothing for us in sky. The only reason one would join would be for the experience, which would get old fast.
 
Even then Summoner doesn't fix the problem LOL JOL = UNKILLABLE AGAIN!
 
SE has never nerf.....they correct. When a job does something that SE hadnt meant for it to do, then most times they correct it. BLMs were never meant to be able to do manaburn ptys from the get go.

Getting all bitchy and hating on other jobs isnt gonna make it any different. If BLM loses its appeal to you then change your job. I always play a job because of how fun it may be.....not by how strong it is neccesarily.

This is gonna end up turning into a bitch fit just like when RNG got corrected. Good times, good times.
 
Strategy: Thundaga III at 12:00.
18 BLM cast Thundaga III at 12:00. AA's all die. DM done 1:13 seconds.
Skill required: 0

Seriously, this game isn't meant to be a push over. I shouldn't able to kill everything or get amazing exp just by pressing enter. Long has BLM leeched off KS runs and taken gil from more deserving people who earned those seals. What did you do to earn that? Oh, level BLM to 75. Congrats. I got WHM to 75, do I get an instant free ride? Do teles cost 500k each? When am I going to get a free ride to leech off everyone else? Seriously, check out any manaburn KS run and there is literally no chance of loss. Try a melee run and it's hard, takes actual *gasp* thought to win and requires *long extended gasp for over dramatic effect* real strategies.

Try doing a DM with an actual alliance constisting of a non-manaburn setup and you will understand why. Where is the teamwork in pressing enter at a preordained time? Granted, I have been on DM runs with a manaburn setup and they failed, but it seems some BLMs are apparently dumber than bricks. This game is built around teamwork and there is NONE to be had in a manaburn setup. Pressing enter at the same time although it can be considered a strategy or a skill, has little effort involved and as every nerf SE has ever done, they do not look favorable on effortless wins and rewards. That is why you should be and will be nerfed. Your lack of effort in everything makes it unfair to anyone not a BLM. Why should you be the only ones to sit around and have an easy ride while everyone else has to work for it?
 
Lavi said:
Strategy: Thundaga III at 12:00.
18 BLM cast Thundaga III at 12:00. AA's all die. DM done 1:13 seconds.
Skill required: 0

Seriously, this game isn't meant to be a push over. I shouldn't able to kill everything or get amazing exp just by pressing enter. Long has BLM leeched off KS runs and taken gil from more deserving people who earned those seals. What did you do to earn that? Oh, level BLM to 75. Congrats. I got WHM to 75, do I get an instant free ride? Do teles cost 500k each? When am I going to get a free ride to leech off everyone else? Seriously, check out any manaburn KS run and there is literally no chance of loss. Try a melee run and it's hard, takes actual *gasp* thought to win and requires *long extended gasp for over dramatic effect* real strategies.

Try doing a DM with an actual alliance constisting of a non-manaburn setup and you will understand why. Where is the teamwork in pressing enter at a preordained time? Granted, I have been on DM runs with a manaburn setup and they failed, but it seems some BLMs are apparently dumber than bricks. This game is built around teamwork and there is NONE to be had in a manaburn setup. Pressing enter at the same time although it can be considered a strategy or a skill, has little effort involved and as every nerf SE has ever done, they do not look favorable on effortless wins and rewards. That is why you should be and will be nerfed. Your lack of effort in everything makes it unfair to anyone not a BLM. Why should you be the only ones to sit around and have an easy ride while everyone else has to work for it?
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Then fucking change DM? Move the fucking mobs further apart so they out of each other's Aga range at the start? God I'm a genius, they should pay me millions for my ideas.
 
Firestreak said:
Then fucking change DM? Move the fucking mobs further apart so they out of each other's Aga range at the start? God I'm a genius, they should pay me millions for my ideas.
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I can see 2 easy ways around that....

PLD, THF that is all...
 
I really don't think people complaining (and I don't think people ever actually did, I mean fuck that, waste of time complaining to SE) about blm is why they are "balancing" it out, or the same with rng. Its mostly just that the jobs are being stacked so much, since they are powerful, and their power is exploited to its full potential. I think the Manaburn dynamis's that are popping up is what pushed the BLMs over the edge.
 
Galaika said:
No there wont. Good luck getting SMNs to join an end game shell unless they have another job levelled. Bar Shikigami Weapon, there are no NMs that drop anything we would want, and there is nothing for us in sky. The only reason one would join would be for the experience, which would get old fast.
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I'm failing to see the difference between Smn and Blm here.....
 
Zoolander said:
I really don't think people complaining (and I don't think people ever actually did, I mean fuck that, waste of time complaining to SE) about blm is why they are "balancing" it out, or the same with rng. Its mostly just that the jobs are being stacked so much, since they are powerful, and their power is exploited to its full potential. I think the Manaburn dynamis's that are popping up is what pushed the BLMs over the edge.
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I'm sure PPL can win without BLM in dynamis, all of you melees can take out a Statue and not wipe without black Mages. Your gonna went them nerrfed but then when you can't take out shit on your own your gonna start bitchin oh plz unnerrff BLM I want my Relic this AF that. Fuck you pussies for leachin off of us and then bitchin about it.
 
Lavi said:
Strategy: Thundaga III at 12:00.
18 BLM cast Thundaga III at 12:00. AA's all die. DM done 1:13 seconds.
Skill required: 0

Seriously, this game isn't meant to be a push over. I shouldn't able to kill everything or get amazing exp just by pressing enter. Long has BLM leeched off KS runs and taken gil from more deserving people who earned those seals. What did you do to earn that? Oh, level BLM to 75. Congrats. I got WHM to 75, do I get an instant free ride? Do teles cost 500k each? When am I going to get a free ride to leech off everyone else? Seriously, check out any manaburn KS run and there is literally no chance of loss. Try a melee run and it's hard, takes actual *gasp* thought to win and requires *long extended gasp for over dramatic effect* real strategies.

Try doing a DM with an actual alliance constisting of a non-manaburn setup and you will understand why. Where is the teamwork in pressing enter at a preordained time? Granted, I have been on DM runs with a manaburn setup and they failed, but it seems some BLMs are apparently dumber than bricks. This game is built around teamwork and there is NONE to be had in a manaburn setup. Pressing enter at the same time although it can be considered a strategy or a skill, has little effort involved and as every nerf SE has ever done, they do not look favorable on effortless wins and rewards. That is why you should be and will be nerfed. Your lack of effort in everything makes it unfair to anyone not a BLM. Why should you be the only ones to sit around and have an easy ride while everyone else has to work for it?
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DM is hardly a reason to nerf Blm. Does nerfing Blm suddenly make DM easier for the rest of the jobs? No.

KSNMs? I've only been involved in one such of these runs and everyone who participated was glad to have the chance to use their seals in this way. No one is forcing anyone to use their seals. The ones who do are usually more than happy to have the chance. Again, will nerfing Blm make it easier for everyone? No.

Sorry but I hardly see the scorpion BC and DM enough of a justification to nerf an entire job class for all levels. Anyone who thinks so is usually speaking out of jealousy and spite.

I am willing to compromise though. I said it before in the other thread. The GOOD solution is for SE to simply remove the entire AGA3 line of spells and replace them with tierV elemental spells for the same MP cost. It will kill the BCs everyone is whinning about, and still give Blm that little something extra to burst with. I think this would be a suitable nerf, but SE is not one to NOT go overboard which is what Im most worried about.


As far as the "report" goes, I'm with stouter. Until I see something from SE,
I will take it with a grain of salt. The author is obviously a Blm hater. Most of his write up of the expansion was "HAHA a Blm died" or "almost died". The thing I found most ironic were these quotes:

They started out by recognizing how ungodly powerful Black Mages are. There are plans to make Manaburns less powerful. They want to make it so having more than one Black Mage in a party makes them less effective, or redundant maybe.
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Followed closely by:

Q: Addressing other burn types, such as Monks in KRT?
A: Currently there are no plans concerning it, the want to leave players options in how to party.
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Anyone else see the contradiction in this?
 
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