Nerf Treasure Hunter!!

Odon said:
......... Your never going to let me forget that are you?
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Forget who has your share of the ks99 money tymon?
 
No one mensioned that skaw baja and ikari were all sitting outside hoping they would get the black belt item.

Skaw said:
Can you read? Seriously. Cannoning isn't Manaburning. Manaburning = Black Mage Divine Might. Black Mage Mission BC. Black Mage Dynamis. If you can't do end-game as it was intended due to time constraints, just don't do it at all.

Ofcourse people are fucking pissed that they can't get Divine Might done, it wasn't designed specifically to be Manaburned, and thats where the problem lies. Every job is equally useful to Divine Might. Manaburning it, as I said before, isn't even doing the battle. It's enter, 6 seconds, win. Way to show SE you enjoyed their content they spent months putting together, go get 'em, tough guy! Theres a reason people don't consider Manaburning events as actual wins, because you're not doing the actual battle.
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Yes skaw so why were you waiting outside and wanting in on this blm manaburn FUN!

Maybe you should put a group together to do it the right way instead of bandwagoning with the blms for that item you desire. while i dont agree with the attitude of some of the blms on this thread, some of these things we do are fun to me. I enjoyed the KS99 runs and the exerpience of getting to be a part of it. If someone were to set up a normal group that was willing to risk there orb to go in i'd do that also to get the experience of the game in another way. Doesn't matter how it gets done long as your having fun. then again with you it doesn't matter either, you just spew shit out on the forums then turn your back on it when its something YOU want.

If you would like to deney maybe we should post the pics of you in the zone? or you asking for the item? or asking the price? I dont think you see it the way we do. BLMS do these things for lots of different reasons. i do it for the experience and fun of it. We dont effect anyone getting the items they deserve by setting up a group themselves and going in and winning. just seems to me that your one of those people you were just bashing on in the other forum about doing manaburn style and not doing it normal.
 
Meh, it was a moot point anyway. The BB item dropped on the first 3 runs, then the Mnks showed and I don't think we saw another item drop the rest of the night.

Don't think the irony wasn't lost on me though. lmao
 
ok so I haven't read all 37 pages, stopped at about page 20 but I hope to god they screw blm and screw it bad so I can finally go DRG ONRY!

oh and kirin does not require blm, very few fights in this game truly require blms in mass, but I would be sad if they weakened mass MBs as that's something that takes more coordination than most things in this game and should be rewarded.

I lol at all you people who cry about blm's manaburning KS30s, I solo a scorp easily as taru drg, if you can't solo a scorp and you're lvl 75 go hide in a corner or something. People are just to lazy to make their own runs, hey if people want to pay me a few mil for a few nukes on my blm I'll take the money.

oh and to those people complaining about blms not wanting to exp in normal partys WTF? I can never find normal partys on blm, only been in one in like past 6 months. Now I exp almost exclusively on drg, because I find it easier to get partys, and I'm more usefull in most partys as drg (I also enjoy drg a lot more). Blm isn't that great in exp partys at 75 due to mp and hate issues.

PS: to all you mnk cannons I feel for you KRT is a hell hole, which is why I never party there anymore^^
 
Passions said:
Yes skaw so why were you waiting outside and wanting in on this blm manaburn FUN!
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Because I don't hate Blackmages, infact, several of my friends play the job, one being Odon who invited me there? Notice once you dicksuckers started playing the asshole tune I left?
 
The same typical "lol we're blackmages fuck the other 14 jobs" tune you so kindly displayed as well, Passions. Keep up the good work IGEing yourself to where you are.
 
Jakey said:
ok so I haven't read all 37 pages, stopped at about page 20 but I hope to god they screw blm and screw it bad so I can finally go DRG ONRY!

oh and kirin does not require blm, very few fights in this game truly require blms in mass, but I would be sad if they weakened mass MBs as that's something that takes more coordination than most things in this game and should be rewarded.

I lol at all you people who cry about blm's manaburning KS30s, I solo a scorp easily as taru drg, if you can't solo a scorp and you're lvl 75 go hide in a corner or something. People are just to lazy to make their own runs, hey if people want to pay me a few mil for a few nukes on my blm I'll take the money.

oh and to those people complaining about blms not wanting to exp in normal partys WTF? I can never find normal partys on blm, only been in one in like past 6 months. Now I exp almost exclusively on drg, because I find it easier to get partys, and I'm more usefull in most partys as drg (I also enjoy drg a lot more). Blm isn't that great in exp partys at 75 due to mp and hate issues.

PS: to all you mnk cannons I feel for you KRT is a hell hole, which is why I never party there anymore^^
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none of your arguments here make any sense why you want SE to fuck black mages in the ass. I'd just like to point that one out
 
Prothall said:
none of your arguments here make any sense why you want SE to fuck black mages in the ass. I'd just like to point that one out
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ok I'll spell it out for you I don't think BLM needs to be nerfed, I consider it balanced, however I enjoy drg more than blm so I'd be happy to have a good reason to give up blm entirely.
 
this sounds like good reasoning, but that was what i first though at the RNG nerf (what a dumbass noob i was!) But did it help me level BLM any faster? NOPE. I didn't notice much of an increase in invites, and it only made it harder for the pts i was in to get xp. So just because a job gets more invites than you doesnt mean its good for them to get nerfed. What if they nerfed refresh? how would we level then??
 
Daveman said:
As for manaburns, you damn well better nerf mnks and wars if you think blm burns are bad. (note: a really good balanced and focused party can outdo a blm cannon in many areas)
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I couldnt agree more!
 
Prothall said:
this sounds like good reasoning, but that was what i first though at the RNG nerf (what a dumbass noob i was!) But did it help me level BLM any faster? NOPE. I didn't notice much of an increase in invites, and it only made it harder for the pts i was in to get xp. So just because a job gets more invites than you doesnt mean its good for them to get nerfed. What if they nerfed refresh? how would we level then??
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I saw more invites as drg after the rng nerf^^, but rng competes with drg for light opener in SCs and the rng nerf made SCing as a rng a bit of an issue.

Well anyways the idea is if one of my two endgame jobs is gimped maybe I wont need to use it as much. The thing is I'm not even sure it'll really be gimped since they said they adding new spells, who knows, might be more powerful for some things. ; ;
 
Passions said:
then again with you it doesn't matter either, you just spew shit out on the forums then turn your back on it when its something YOU want.
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He didn't want it too much...

I offered to give up my share of the loot for his tongue, Odon agreed, skaw said no.
 
Skaw said:
Because I don't hate Blackmages, infact, several of my friends play the job, one being Odon who invited me there? Notice once you dicksuckers started playing the asshole tune I left?
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no you just want us nerfed because people use blms to get items they want. if you were following the example you were trying to set you wouldn't of been there in the first place asking for the item. Yes you left after it was offered to you for 10mil because of your dick sucker attitude on here towards blms.

I'd been all for helping you out getting that item if you haden't screamed blm nerf because people are idiots for joining blm onry events to get there shit done. Its not whether you like blms or not, its the fact that you put down anyone thats gone with a blm onry DM or KS30 run to get an item. Then you procede to show up at a blm onry ks99 run to get our item? You scream nerf because blms take the hard work and effort out of the fight, but you want to bennif from it as well. It doesn't make sence to me and it didn't make sence to many of the others as well.


But skaw while i wasn't willing to give you a tounge from a blm onry even that you would of not participated in any way just leeched it. i will come along if you set up a ks99 run to go get the item. You wana scream get things done the right way and not through a bunch of blms at then lead by example and do your events that way.
 
Passions said:
No one mensioned that skaw baja and ikari were all sitting outside hoping they would get the black belt item.

Yes skaw so why were you waiting outside and wanting in on this blm manaburn FUN!
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I was there because I heard an alliance was throwing the items away; if it had been a normal alliance that was tossing them out, I would have asked them too. I didn't show up until I heard that the first few tongues were wasted and I was invited by one of the black mages in the alliance to come lot so they didn't get wasted(Kinda like skaw got INVITED). We didn't just show up to leech as soon as the run started, we were invited to come lot the tongues so they wouldn't be wasted, so you're completely wrong. Oh, and you forgot to mention that after we showed up, suddenly black mages in the alliance wanted the tongues for their level 10 monks.

Then, Decidence let his sore pussy control the whole alliance and didn't want us to lot on the sole reason that we disagreed with him about something. He said that "we were the ones that wanted SE to nerf black mages" which is so baseless it's laughable. As I told the 3 black mages who actually talked to me, I didn't call for a blm nerf; I have never called for a nerf of a single job. The only thing I have done is agree with a decision to nerf a job and explain why I agree with it.

Also, as I told people who actually cared to listen, if people weren't so bent on blm only for doing stuff, I wouldn't want them nerfed. If the strategies weren't all "throw more blm at it until it dies" then there would be no reason for a nerf. I have friends who are black mages and I don't want them to be useless nor do I want them to be pissed off about a change, but since the player base wanted to abuse them, they need to change. Stop abusing jobs and there won't be any more nerfs, simple as that.

Basically all that happened that night was you guys showed how immature you were. We didn't disagree with SE changing your job so that real strategy might actually be used again, cry me a fucking river. If you guys had told us we couldn't get a tongue because we weren't putting in a orb, I wouldn't have had a problem with it; but denying solely because we didn't disagree with the nerf is extremely childish.
 
I don't think it's calling for a nerf as much as the criticisms of the BLM you say are the reason for it.

Words like crooks, criminals, thieves, cheats, ext. It becomes no longer a question of balance then.
 
Firestreak said:
I don't think it's calling for a nerf as much as the criticisms of the BLM you say are the reason for it.

Words like crooks, criminals, thieves, cheats, ext. It becomes no longer a question of balance then.
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I never referred to blm's as any of those things; that was mainly peregrine calling them thieves and such.
 
Agreed. They are. The job doesn't need nerfed. The players do. I don't care if they manaburn for crap endgame xp. But they milk people of their seals, and that's why the whole damn job is going down.

I wouldn't hang up your hats just yet though. You're not nerfed *yet*. You are "being given incentive to try other options."
 
they prob make the magic resist go up on mobs in bcnm/ksnm
 
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