One reported dead, several injured in Virginia Tech shootings

Pure and simple, the guy was fucked up. I don't care what kind of problems you go through, nothing justifies blowing yourself up with the world. It accomplishes nothing. People have their own exaggerated views on things in this world, the people around them included. This guy had this idea the world was trying to destroy him, and even people who say they tried to involve him in social things say he just ignored them and avoided.

MENTAL ISSUES people.
 
Feel bad for the guy that killed 30+ people?

WTF?!

I think about killing people daily, but there's a line you don't cross. That line is a legal one. It's a moral one. It's something you need to tell yourself not to do if you feel the urge since you know damn well what the consequences are.

This wasn't a crime of passion. It was thought out well and good. He killed over 30 people, not 1 or 2.

HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING. So why feel bad for the kid, when feeling bad for the victims of this heinous crime is what you should really be doing if you had half a heart?
 
Feel bad for the guy that killed 30+ people?

WTF?!

I think about killing people daily, but there's a line you don't cross. That line is a legal one. It's a moral one. It's something you need to tell yourself not to do if you feel the urge since you know damn well what the consequences are.

This wasn't a crime of passion. It was thought out well and good. He killed over 30 people, not 1 or 2.

HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING. So why feel bad for the kid, when feeling bad for the victims of this heinous crime is what you should really be doing if you had half a heart?

Thank you /bows

If you had to feel sorry for anyone..its for the victims. There is nothing in the intire world that justifies murder. Even if someone commited manslaughter, they may not thought or planned about killing anyone, but they murdered and they should be punished.

Should I feel sorry for Hitler or Saddam for killing innocent people? Who knows what they went through as a kid.

Oh and I'm not comparing Cho to Hitler or Saddam, they are just examples fyi
 
I thought about that as well. While I can still see things through the eyes of Hitler and possibly understand why he did the things he did, his case is much different from the current one. He was not isolated. He had many friends who agreed with and followed his ideas. He was not in nearly the same mental state. This guy wasn't the leader of a country. He didn't have a legion of people agreeing with his every word. He could have been helped.

What he did was wrong, no doubt, but he didn't deserve to die. He derserved it just as much as each of his victims deserved it. He's a human being. A precious life. I have just as much sympathy for him as I do for each of his victims.

You guys should take a sociology class so you can learn that your vision of the world isn't the only one and yours isn't more "right" than anyone elses. It's typical that you hate what you don't understand. It's how every form of evil comes alive.
 
Some people do deserve to die. Hitler is a fine example.
 
You guys should take a sociology class so you can learn that your vision of the world isn't the only one and yours isn't more "right" than anyone elses. It's typical that you hate what you don't understand. It's how every form of evil comes alive.

Hate what I don't understand? A man killed 32 other people, he compared himself to Jesus. He called the two teenagers who killed the studens in Colombine martyrs. I don't think I need to say anymore.

And sorry if I come off as "im more right than you" And I'm the type of person who doesn't hate everythign I don't understand, I'm pretty open to everyone's ideas and I accept people. But theres nothing to think about here. Murder is something that I don't think you have to go and say "Oh well that person had the right to kill so and so" Unless its like self-defense.
 
Sorry guys, I guess I forgot to add the part where there's no way to justify killing someone.

Legomyeggo said:
There's no such thing as a justified reason for killing anyone

Oh, hi.

Yeah, he was mentally unstable. I think the part where he murdered 32 people sort of gave that away. If I have sympathy for Cho, how can you think I don't have sympathy for the wounded, the dead, and the families thereof? You can't force someone to be okay. You can't force good emotions out of someone. One can only hope some good spawns from this tragedy and people will look out for one another, as Planeteer-ish as it sounds.
 
I think Cho deserved to die - 32 times, to be specific. People have every right to judge others. It's what we do best. I don't have to walk a mile in his shoes. In fact, by judging him and people like him, I ensure that I'll never take even a step in his shoes. I won't even put his shoes on. No thanks. I'll judge him and his shoes from a safe distance. Some people are better than other people, and I don't need to experience their lives to figure that out. I've judged Cho, and I believe he deserved death.
 
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I thought about that as well. While I can still see things through the eyes of Hitler and possibly understand why he did the things he did, his case is much different from the current one. He was not isolated. He had many friends who agreed with and followed his ideas. He was not in nearly the same mental state. This guy wasn't the leader of a country. He didn't have a legion of people agreeing with his every word. He could have been helped.

What he did was wrong, no doubt, but he didn't deserve to die. He derserved it just as much as each of his victims deserved it. He's a human being. A precious life. I have just as much sympathy for him as I do for each of his victims.

You guys should take a sociology class so you can learn that your vision of the world isn't the only one and yours isn't more "right" than anyone elses. It's typical that you hate what you don't understand. It's how every form of evil comes alive.

Obviously, he couldn't be helped, because he did what he did. People that do those types of things are not people that you can reach. LIke his roommates said, he wouldn't even communicate with them to say hi or chat, obviously he didn't want to be helped.

With that, I think he was helped as much as he could have been helped. Let's take a reality check here and look at his life. He was a college student, living a life that was hardly horrible. I've been to Blacksburg many times, that place is amazing. He had all of these wonderful opportunities every day to try to pick his life up and do something with it and he made the decision not to. There are plenty of people out there having incredibly fucked up lives that don't have the opportunities he was given that don't choose to shoot 32 people.

He did deserve to die more than his victims by the end. The victims didn't murder anyone, he did. So, therefore, once he made that decision, yes, he did deserve to die more than his victims did at that point. He made that choice.

I have taken sociology. I have great empathy for many people, but I don't empathize to the point of ridiculousness. There's a line here, and he crossed it, turning what would have been pity for him from me into disgust and righteous anger. And it is righteous, because he did what he did and he deserved the consequenses of that.

It's not like he was some poor guy living on the streets that endured torture and decided to react to that on the spot out of desperation and hopelessness. You're talking about a guy who was educated and had his life ahead of him to choose how he wanted to live. He didn't go through anything at least in the last four years that could ever make me care as to why he would decide to do something so ahorrent. He wasn't driven to anything, he decided to hold on to his jealousy, rage, and sickness so tightly that he turned into a monster. And it is my belief that he did that by choice in spite of the many opportunities afforded him to have a better life.

I don't think that you should believe as I do, I don't take that right from anyone. I respect that you've lived your life a certain way and come to the conclusion that you should feel pity and sympnathy for this man. That isn't the point. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and to disagree. I wholeheartedly feel differently than you on this point and that is MY right as well and I will talk about it.

Either way, it's a pointless debate because neither of us know what he went through or if he went through anything at all. We say "he MUST have gone through something terrible to have done such a horrible thing", when the truth is that he could just as easily have gone through nothing more than to live his life a little poorer than most with a good, supportive, loving family, but had a mental problem that drove him to do what he did. The only person that will ever know the truth of the matter completely is dead, and good riddance to bad rubbish in my opinion.

My belief is, I don't care what happened to him, it's pointless to me now and as soon as he killed his first person he lost the right, in my eyes, for my consideration and help and caring and pity. I'll leave those feelings for the victims, their families, and their friends.
 
I thought about that as well. While I can still see things through the eyes of Hitler and possibly understand why he did the things he did, his case is much different from the current one. He was not isolated. He had many friends who agreed with and followed his ideas. He was not in nearly the same mental state. This guy wasn't the leader of a country. He didn't have a legion of people agreeing with his every word. He could have been helped.

What he did was wrong, no doubt, but he didn't deserve to die. He derserved it just as much as each of his victims deserved it. He's a human being. A precious life. I have just as much sympathy for him as I do for each of his victims.

You guys should take a sociology class so you can learn that your vision of the world isn't the only one and yours isn't more "right" than anyone elses. It's typical that you hate what you don't understand. It's how every form of evil comes alive.

I'm sorry, Zod disagreed far more nicely than I'm about to. All I can say at this point is cry me a fucking river. I don't give a shit about this asshole or his problems. All life is not precious; all life is not equal. What you do with your life matters; how you live your life matters. This complete fucking failure decided to use the precious gift of life he was given to rip the life from 32 innocent people.

Some people do deserve to die. Hitler is a fine example.

Simple, to the point, and I agree wholeheartedly.

Hate what I don't understand? A man killed 32 other people, he compared himself to Jesus. He called the two teenagers who killed the studens in Colombine martyrs. I don't think I need to say anymore.

And sorry if I come off as "im more right than you" And I'm the type of person who doesn't hate everythign I don't understand, I'm pretty open to everyone's ideas and I accept people. But theres nothing to think about here. Murder is something that I don't think you have to go and say "Oh well that person had the right to kill so and so" Unless its like self-defense.

There are definitely situations that I would have sympathy/understanding for someone killing another person. Self-defense is the big one. Another one is punishment determined by a court of law (death penalty).

I have no sympathy, understanding, or regard for a person that is unbalanced but should have been smart enough to seek help. If he had been overwhelmed by his issues and simply committed suicide I would have had a bit of sympathy for him, but that possibility ended when he decided that innocent people needed to die with him. He was a waste of life and the world would have been a better place if he'd never been born.
 
I have no sympathy, understanding, or regard for a person that is unbalanced but should have been smart enough to seek help. If he had been overwhelmed by his issues and simply committed suicide I would have had a bit of sympathy for him, but that possibility ended when he decided that innocent people needed to die with him. He was a waste of life and the world would have been a better place if he'd never been born.

I half agree with you. (but i don't really want to go into why I disagree) If the man commited suicide, yes I would feel bad for him. But murdering 32 people? There's NOTHING to feel sorry for him for. NOTHING in the world will make murder ok, and there is NOTHING in the world that will make me sorry for a murderer killing people. Simple as that.
 
I don't think anybody deserves to die, and all life is precious in my opinion. There may have been 32 victims at VT, but there are 33 families who have lost someone and need prayers. This was someone's brother, someone's son, someone's family. I'm couldn't look any of them in the eye and tell them your son never deserved to be born, or your brother was a waste of life.
 
I don't think anybody deserves to die, and all life is precious in my opinion. There may have been 32 victims at VT, but there are 33 families who have lost someone and need prayers. This was someone's brother, someone's son, someone's family. I'm couldn't look any of them in the eye and tell them your son never deserved to be born, or your brother was a waste of life.

I don't think anyone could look any of his family in the eye and be that cruel. I feel sorry for them as well as the family and friends of the victims. They didn't kill 32 people either and I'm sure they are just as devistated. Not only do they have to deal with the fact that their son/brother is dead, they have to deal with the shame and disgust and evil of what he did for the rest of their lives. I can't imagine the kind of guilt and horror that they must be going through.

But while my sympathies are with his family, I do agree that after he killed his first person, he deserved nothing but to die.

All life is precious, and that's why when someone crosses the line and decides to kill another person the way he did, in my opinion, they deserve the same fate.
 
Isn't it easy to say "So-and-so did something(s) that's bad and they deserved to die". now that their dead. I'd challenge those who think this way to pick someone who is living and tell me that they deserve to die. I'm not saying something along the lines "all serial killers deserve to die", I'm asking which specific person deserves to die in your eyes?

I find irony that some people said Hitler "deserved to die", and a big part of that reasoning may be because he felt Jews, Homosexuals, et al "deserved to not live".
 
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