Paladin....

[Shaidalyn]

While I am a firm believer that Paladin 1-37, nin 37-75, and pld for endgame... I love Paladin. The job the true definition of "Hero" ya know? Giving your own body as a shield for the weak n all that ?

Well.. when my whm is all done I really want to level pld. I don't know how high yet but I speculate 60ish.

I can blink tank very well (mithra and a LOAD of +eva/+agi gear) but.. Ninja will prolly never be more to me than a Sub.

So! The questions I have for you lovely people who give your lives for us mages..
1: Str vs Vit vs Defense.. Which is most important? Rings come to mind, the +2str/vit rings with 1def (HQ) or rings that give flat our defense (such as Phalanx ring) What is the order of paladin stats? For rdm it was Int > Mp > Mnd (for me) for Whm it's Mp > Mnd

2: HP vs MP. Now this might sound dumb "HP stupid!" but I think about it.. an astral ring is -25hp, +25mp.. now take into consideration you are giving up 25hp for a Cure II which is 90hp for the 24mp... is my logic flawed?

3: My pld is level 1. I intend to enter the dunes at level 10 for the first time ever.. I usually go at 15+ or skip them. What is my edge? Do I hit the mob good and hard? or do I just "survive" while the pt wittles it down?

4: Combination of 1-3 per levels.. What works in the Dunes (Drg with Sword) doesn't work in Kuftal.. so if anyone would be so kind.. a minor breakdown?

Thank you~

*edit since 2 people have not understood last question >.<*
You all basically answer it.. What I mean is.. at low levels I focus on what? then at medium? and high level? Not so uch endgame since I will NOT be doing gods/hnm and unlikely Dynamis as pld.. I just want to exp it, not endgame it. Thanks to all responses so far ^.^

 

[Kire]

from 1-54 lv ish its vit>hp>def>
when in kuf on crabs do def>hp>vit
plds dont get alot of invite so be rdy to wait
str is rarely needed ok some peep onKI elf pld 75/war got over 700 attack but thats hard
if need more help pm me was 65 pld can help a bit

 

[Shaidalyn]

I don't mind waiting and I build most my own parties now so ^.^/

 

[masterorion]

str is the last thing that should be on your mind. HP isnt really a high priority either.HP is more of an end game concern rather than during xp.

 

[Skaw]

It really depends. Defense should be your primary focus for the early-middle portion of the game. VIT and HP are really interchangable if you can find an item with a ton of HP on it.

 

[Legomyeggo]

Racial issues aside, HP is really mainly for endgame like MassaO said. I think it's best to concentrate on VIT > DEF > AGI. As far as Str goes, you shouldn't worry about it. I macro in a few things for Vorpal Blade that were originally intended for Ballista, but it really isn't necessary.

HP vs MP, I can't say really. I never bothered concentrating on either, but if I had to choose, it would probably be MP for the lower levels, HP for the higher levels, though I don't think sacrificing HP for MP or MP for HP is worth it, unless you're Garuka or Taru, respectively.

The dunes was kind of fun as Pld. All the parties I had were above average though, so I can't really gauge it well.

The last question I don't really understand, probably because it's 5 AM in the morn.

 

[Kire]

str is the last thing that should be on your mind. HP isnt really a high priority either.HP is more of an end game concern rather than during xp.

yeah end game its -damage% then HP as your def or vit will not stop a 300 attack but the % will help alot more and hp so you can take more attacks

 

[reddogneo]

Im with them generaly in the low lvls pre 20 I loaded up on mind and got any evasion gear I could for tankin mandies if course I got any vit gear I could. Im elvaan and I used eva gear for tankin mandies but there pussies anyway.
I stoped at lvl 56 to get a few items but hp vs mp smoewhat depends on race. Im lvl 56 and my max mp is 182 so I macroed electrum rings in and with tacos thats 60 xtra mp, im currently tryin to get a rival ribbon and templar mantle because thats 35 xtra base mp putting me closer to 290 mp full. But these plans might change because ive yet to lvl pld since we got our new toys.

 

[Shaidalyn]

Oh oh thats the big thing.. Food.. What do I use when? I see people use Boiled Crab in Dunes... then the next pld I PT'd with was in Kuftal who used a Fishkabob.... when are Taco's?

 

[Kire]

i did tacos from 40+ and from 25-40 boiled crab no need for food before 25
at 25 when u take like 2 damage from each hit of a mandie people like you

 

[Winklewil]

While I am a firm believer that Paladin 1-37, nin 37-75, and pld for endgame...

Well, I hate to ignore the rest of your post (which I'm about to do: don't know more than anyone else about paladin, I'm afraid), but if you are really a "firm" believer in that kind of progression, how do you plan on getting from 38-75? Wouldn't it require you to break this kind of hard-lined bias?

 

[Kire]

Well, I hate to ignore the rest of your post (which I'm about to do: don't know more than anyone else about paladin, I'm afraid), but if you are really a "firm" believer in that kind of progression, how do you plan on getting from 38-75? Wouldn't it require you to break this kind of prejudice?

war is best tank from 5-10 pld 10-40 nin from 40-50 pld from 50-62 nin from 62-75 in exp/hr but for best fun longer parties and safer its pld 4tw

 

[Shaidalyn]

Well, I hate to ignore the rest of your post (which I'm about to do: don't know more than anyone else about paladin, I'm afraid), but if you are really a "firm" believer in that kind of progression, how do you plan on getting from 38-75? Wouldn't it require you to break this kind of hard-lined bias?

yes it would ^.^ I am all for dealing with pain in the ass times.. notice I leveled Sam.. invites = nonexistant. At least Paladin is a tank so all I need is a whm and voila, rest is cake.

Plus, I intend to static at least 2-3 other positions with friends/lsmates/my kitten :3

 

[Kire]

yes it would ^.^ I am all for dealing with pain in the ass times.. notice I leveled Sam.. invites = nonexistant. At least Paladin is a tank so all I need is a whm and voila, rest is cake.

Plus, I intend to static at least 2-3 other positions with friends/lsmates/my kitten :3

if want a satic i got a brd and nin rdy i am the nin (dd) and brd (support) if want to work something out be good

 

[Noxxx]

yes it would ^.^ I am all for dealing with pain in the ass times.. notice I leveled Sam.. invites = nonexistant. At least Paladin is a tank so all I need is a whm and voila, rest is cake.

Plus, I intend to static at least 2-3 other positions with friends/lsmates/my kitten :3

No, all you need to go along with a pld from 37-75 is a rdm. Rdm is a plds best friend, always and forever. And with plds new auto refresh at 35, we're even less dependant than ever on whm.

 

[Noxxx]

plds dont get alot of invite so be rdy to wait

Ok, while I don't doubt that not alot of people invited you to a party as a pld, Normal plds get invites all the time. I get invites all the time without seeking or having a search comment up. Don't spread mis-information like this, Plds are one of the more frequently invited jobs out there. A good pld will never have a problem finding a party.

 

[Blazeoffury]

Did I hear Shaid mention Staticing ... <--- 13brd, 10mnk, 15thf, 9 rdm, 8 Pup, !!!! I would love a Shaid static

 

[Shaidalyn]

Blaze makes me feel special :3
I'm gonna say.. brd.. cause in dunes the +acc +atk is sexy.. and I know how to line up with brd.. and I like brd.. so yeah

 

[Blazeoffury]

Blaze makes me feel special :3
I'm gonna say.. brd.. cause in dunes the +acc +atk is sexy.. and I know how to line up with brd.. and I like brd.. so yeah

Bard it is kitty.

 

[Passions]

notice I leveled Sam.. invites = nonexistant.

Ok WHAT?
Sam was the first job i looked for when i make a party 33-60 (they fall off there grind around 60).
They can open or close a sc for every job in the game, and they can get tp fast. I mean seriously WHAT? They have higher Vit and JA's to make a perfect first voke > sc opener for thf. Nin's generally (i use the term litely not everyone needs one) a thf, and what better to have then a SAM to open distortion?

also

And with plds new auto refresh at 35

Is this for real? I didn't know this was implimented yet