Passions the greedy whore>.>

passions said:
some people need closer so,
I'm sorry for wanting a OHat, i'm sorry for arguing with you kat, i'm sorry that what i did 6 months ago was "unjustified", i'm sorry that i don't help enough people that actually visit these forums to stand up and say i'm not a greedy selfish whore.

Honestly. I'm out of the O.Hat arguement. I don't care about how greedy or ungreedy you are. However the whole "Maybe" thing really gets to me.

Just say it. Just say, that level 50 individual should have got the paper. Maybe even feel somewhat bad or sorry? Seriously. I'm focusing on -that- alone right now.

And, this is a random question to spur though: Should you have to jusitify your actions if they are right?
 
I know this is the flameboard and all, but...

The bandwagoners and I-heard-he's need to stop.
Consider this:

1. Different people's perception of events are gonna be different *gasp*.

2. From what I know, Pandorda is a generous guy that helps others, who sometimes gets impatient and wants to help himself at the same time. This is part of why he dual-boxes.

3. If you want to flame him, get in line, but please get the facts straight first before you start defaming others. Looking ill-informed is the first stage in losing flame credibility.

I think it's important to distinguish what started all these flames and issues (Bumblebe, Ohat, Shen, and papyrus incidents) were him going to help people with one char, and maybe have an opportunity to help himself or one of his other chars.

Bumblebe - he bought him elemental staves or tele-mea or w/e so he wouldn't be a gimp whm in his pt's and got accused of gilbuying for his generosity (which could be considered selfish only b/c it helped his own xp)

Ohat - he offered to help as blm, an absolute necessity, and bringing his own cluster, he hoped to get some reward... essentially, by going NOT as a leech, but as a helpful member, he would be given the SAME opportunity as everyone else

Shen - who can say that if he was the only blm there, and died twice for the nuking that was his JOB and an absolute must against Shen, how is that selfish if he brings his whm char along for the ride? any whm who was there is disallowed from flaming him for being selfish or greedy

Papyrus - since when did duo'ing liches become a crime? if he had gone to solo as rdm60 with his thf01 sitting at zone for drop, this wouldn't be a problem... if he brought a friend along who needed it as well and offered to kill them with curing backup and a free lot, where's the problem? if his LS shows up with a couple pt's and starts mass killing liches, wouldn't he be a jerk for saying "nah i'm just gonna duo these" and wouldn't he have to join then? so then he lots on what he came there for and now he's flamed for it... meanwhile he brings his friend there again and continues until they get the 2nd drop... so selfish it seems

Please, it's hard to swallow these accusations when every one of them points to him helping someone else in some way. You may say, "oh he's not being truly selfless" but before you do, maybe look at yourself and what truly selfless things you have done for strangers and see if it stacks up to the time you spend on yourself. Then glance at "Crafter's Corner" under "Scorpion Harness synth" if you're still skeptical. Thank you.
 
thanks for the support gir. just about the shen thing, my whm wasn't there to get a reverend mail she was because we were waiting on people other then whm's so i was skilling up and using her to cure so i didnt have to have a whm follow me around.

Gir, you were someone i tried (we were unsuccessfull but had fun doing it) to help get spider webs for your cloth crafting that one night. we weren't really high enough to fight good drop spiders but we gave it a shot at least.
About the SH post, Numa your a 75 blm. If your so not selfish why don't you hop on the bandwagon and join that run. i still need 3 blms willing to go do this run WITHOUT a reward for going. So if your such a nice guy, why don't you set post a day and time that is fine with you to go. Desert storm isn't soloable by myself, but losing a Claw sucks and it takes what, 2 minutes to do that fight 30 minutes to run there and do the fight in all?
 
Ok about some of your earlier posts passions, Ok seriously Ky helps out more than you ever will in game, no questions asked if someone needs help she is there, so what if she got sky early? People wanted to take her along, so they did, maybe if you acted like her people would bring you along for OHat runs. Secondly I remember why you left/got kicked out of keitaro, because you started shit with LS members in a thread that eventually got deleted because it got out of hand, you were a complete prick when you posted to some members in it so don't say you got kicked for no reason, because that is just BS. You're fryin your brain by getting high and forgetting everything. Anyways I've been in the LS for quite a while now, and they are like family, they treat everyone fairly unless you do some stupid shit, which you did, by flaming a leader in a thread on the gd LS forums, if you want to start shit with them you can start shit with me. Btw thought you quit? It's a shame you didn't.
 
Yeah!

Just ask, make your intentions clear off the bat, and as long as your not a complete dick ppl will help. thats all I wanted to say with these posts.

Im sure if youd said for the papyrus that you planned on lotting for a drop with your 24 thf, we would have asked you to wait Til Crookedmidget and Dee (your friend) got theirs, cuz their need was more pressing. We would have come back for yours in another 26 levels np, and would have stayed til you got it.

All I wanted to drop in this post was think about your actions for a sec before you make them. Keep your Karma good, and youll enjoy the friends and help in endgame. If you end up with multiple threads in the flameboards, youre doing something wrong... Just be careful and consider there may be a reason for that. Its never to late to make a change, but sometimes people dig a hole too deep to get out of. Like I said, Id hate to see you become another cowlba.

If you need help and Im avaialable, Ill help, its cool. Just be a straight shooter and be honest and clear about what you need, dont be too demanding, and people will help. I have the next week and a half off work. If you need a BLM, I can help (only 74 atm tho - rdm is 75 but Im working on it)

Just do good by others and others will help when you need it, and everybody will get along great.
 
honestly numa,
that's the best damn post i've read of yours. It wasn't crook though i know that, crook was 56bst when i was 52 rdm. I do have good karma or whatever, very few people have "bad" things to say about me other then i cock an attitude when they arn't playing right and they don't listen. I'm enjoying endgame and i have lots of friends and people that respect me for who i am. Yes i lotted as a 24thf, maybe i should of waited and could of gotten it later but thats in the past. That's over and done with, they got there paper eventually as well wasn't like they waited months to get it in the first place. I think gir put it best, seems the only time i get flammed is because they were someone i helped while at the same time was getting something for myself. Sad really, but its true. Does it hurt my karma? not in my opinion. I've helped lots of people with things when i never asked for a thing in return. Even though me and bumble have had problems i still gave him and a few ls buds a little help the other night, it wasn't much and i didn't have to but i took what little free time i had to do it.

Taiel, No i said i wanted a break but i changed my goals and found new fun in the game. Ky is extreamly helpfull, but you see it more because she's on your time schedule and most of the other NA's and its a lot of LS memebers she helping so you see it more. I do my share of helping, i don't feel the need to brag about it. Everyone acts like you need to wear it like a pendent, when you shouldn't be doing it to get personal gain but to feel GOOD a new concept to most of you maybe. i actually felt GOOD helping bumble buddy the other day, oddly enough.
And of course you will stand behind keiarto, its you LS you should. but as far as why i got kicked/left is a huge mess in its self, that i would really not like to get into and that post has been deleted so its mostly all he said she said now. which is why we shouldn't delete post kids.

I do have the hand it to you Numa though, your post calmed my anger down. You spoke out of thought, that seemed well thought out. WTF you doing in the flameboard, no one makes respawnces like that here :p

In the end, i don't think i'm greedy or selfish. maybe made a mistak in the past but it wasn't exactly like i was a Uber 2yrs into the game player back then either. I put in 2 ohat runs lasting ~5hrs each and i'm just tired of going there with a eye and watching everyone go, taking my turn and not getting to pop the SOB. I just want a Hat the next time i go, that is all. I don't see that as selfish, i see that as a payback for all my hardwork of helping others with no gain, while at the same time helping others. Would i go back? Hell YES i would, reason being that is one good feeling watching someone put that hat on that they will wear from most of there time playing, same thing with AF3 NM's. I'm a big fan of helping people with big fights, escpially when its a important piece for there job.
If i have to wait for a OHat i will, I'll casualy offer to help on runs for a ohat till i hit 65-70 on ninja/thf which ever is first, then i will feel the need to ask those people to come help me out. I'd rather see more faces smile because they got that wonderfull hat that believe it or not I DO think looks cool.
 
Sorry, I've been cleaning before the hubby gets home so I don't look like I've been posting on the boards all day^^. (Kat must cover her ass when it comes to RL vs. Computer time at all costs!!!!)

Anyway, I'm honestly not trying to act holier than thou or anything, but I've been on so many damn Ohat runs I can't even begin to count them anymore. That's all part of bein' a mage and helping your fellow gamers. Needless to say, to me it's not about saying what you've done to help others, but the feeling of self-satisfaction you get and just that simple thank you and bein' appreciated after you've helped.

And now I think I'm done. Hope all is well in the FB for a tad bit of time. No matter what your personal beliefs, this is the time for giving and caring. Please if you heed nothing else, heed that. Lastly, it shouldn't just be at this time of year, but for some reason this week does seem to bring out the best in people. Soooo, I'll end it at that ...
 
passions said:
ok kat, i'm running out of ammo because you keep ignoring what i'm saying.

lets take this example then of another member in your ls. Sad that i have to include her because she's a nice person and doesn't belong here but i'm going to

Kyrial SKY=O
is she greedy for having sky early? there's nothing she can do there or well could do there when she got it, yet she still went on the runs with her thf?
QUOTE]

haveing early access to an XP area where you can go at 65 with a party and not be botherd by noobs and nooblet partys like yourself is priceless!

Also haveing access to an area is a huge diffrece because 8/10 times your going in partys where everyone going is getting access to. Far diffrent from getting 18 + peoiple to team up to get 1 hat for a retard like yourself.

This is just another example of your ignoranc inexsperiance and stupidity

In short fuck off and die!
 
passions said:
so he needed to wait 1 more fucking day big WHOP,

This is precisly the attitude I am talking about, no concern for anyone but yourself lest your getting something from it and even then your only there for yourself, your a worthless peice of shit.
 
Yoshindor said:
This is precisly the attitude I am talking about, no concern for anyone but yourself lest your getting something from it and even then your only there for yourself, your a worthless peice of shit.

it a equal oppertunity he was there and he needed the item why must he wait I would have done the same thing. Kill two birds with one stone. Why make anouther run when you could get the item right there:cool: To me it a good thing he got the paper first because judging by your post you would have never let him get it other wise.:2cents:
 
And here i took yoshi's word that he wasn't trying to degrade people...

Some people make me :shok: ...
 
Reishu said:
And here i took yoshi's word that he wasn't trying to degrade people...

Some people make me :shok: ...

Sorry not degrading him at all. Simply telling him what I think of his worthlessness. If you percive it another way thats not my problem.
 
hellstorm said:
it a equal oppertunity he was there and he needed the item why must he wait I would have done the same thing. Kill two birds with one stone. Why make anouther run when you could get the item right there:cool: To me it a good thing he got the paper first because judging by your post you would have never let him get it other wise.:2cents:

He would have been more than welcome to a paper had waited and let the more desrving people get it like he should have. However in my opinion had I been there the minuite he lotted I would have booted him. It's not equal oppertunity, people at the cap need the paper more, he was way away from it. despite this fact he took it anyway.
 
Well, I think as mentioned constantly, the melee or people who could use it should get it first. Yes, although mages want it. It helps out the melee better and it's the best for melee. If you want one just for skilling up, you should wait.

What does a Blackmage need an Optical Hat for? You're not going to use it during exp, gods, hnm, dynamis, while melee probably are.

I understand you were helping them and you wanted something in return, but melee deserve the Optical hat more.
 
Sonicboom said:
Well, I think as mentioned constantly, the melee or people who could use it should get it first. Yes, although mages want it. It helps out the melee better and it's the best for melee. If you want one just for skilling up, you should wait.

What does a Blackmage need an Optical Hat for? You're not going to use it during exp, gods, hnm, dynamis, while melee probably are.

I understand you were helping them and you wanted something in return, but melee deserve the Optical hat more.

according to passion's sig she/he has rdm 66, that's 4 lvl away from ohat. ohat is pretty damn good for rdm soloing as rdm/nin and such...

blm needs acc too, for getting retribution and skilling up and shit!
 
Rhaddy said:
according to passion's sig she/he has rdm 66, that's 4 lvl away from ohat. ohat is pretty damn good for rdm soloing as rdm/nin and such...

blm needs acc too, for getting retribution and skilling up and shit!

Good for him, when he gets his RDM to 70 then he can think about one.

If he wants one soo bad why doesn't he suck Prophecy cock and get one.
 
Sonicboom said:
Well, I think as mentioned constantly, the melee or people who could use it should get it first. Yes, although mages want it. It helps out the melee better and it's the best for melee. If you want one just for skilling up, you should wait.

What does a Blackmage need an Optical Hat for? You're not going to use it during exp, gods, hnm, dynamis, while melee probably are.

I understand you were helping them and you wanted something in return, but melee deserve the Optical hat more.

Huh?
 
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