POL NEWS : Accounts 4000 Banned (Feb. 21)

romperstomper said:
And you're posts have become nothing but stupidity becuase your comprehension skills suck. I never said just eliminate the workers. You seem to think that just banning the banker would do the good deed when the truth is those workers do have inventory slots everyone does. I am sure that more then one character is needed to hold the mass amount of gil that is held amongst all the players. If the bank reachs gil cap they need another character to act as bank because there hasn't been enough people that buy gil that is why if you look on KI Somepage Allakhazam any website that has IGE or whatever ads they are all having gil sales. They are having these sales because they are running out of customers fast and keep filling with gil.

The bank by the way can just keep restarting if needed. The key lock still doesn't win. They need full IP bans seeing as though if you take Sweatshop A and you ban that IP bye bye bank and workers forever. Will SE think to do so? Probably not because then you wouldn't have occurence of RMTs as much because they would have to find a new sweatshop, but you just simply think that key locking the bank will cause it to shut down when truth is we don't know what the RMT are using the mith swords for. We can assume they're just npcing them, using them for a quest that gives a good amount of gil for so many sword, using them to craft something, or simply tossing them. My natural guess would be they're NPCing them and until they have completely full inventories and possibly could transfer the gil over to bank then. Let us hold them to a higher standard first though. If SE directly banned the bank wouldn't they spread that gil out?
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The gil cap is what, a billion gil? Even RMT working non-stop would take a while to make that kind of money, and there's saying that SE will only ban one of the bankers. The workers would hold some money, but only an incredibly small fraction of what the bankers would be holding. Banning the workers does nothing but slow them down for 2 weeks; they've done it before and that's exactly what happened. Your plan to ban the workers won't do a thing unless they have a weekly banning; since that's not likely to happen, the most effective solution would be to ban the bankers, since that would hurt the gil sellers the most. You're really failing at looking at this from a strategic viewpoint, banning the workers would make some people happy but in reality it would accomplish nothing.

IP banning would be the best solution, but key banning is much easier. They might do it in the future, but for now all they've done is take the easy route; hopefully that will change with this task force they made.

Who cares what they do with the swords? You're pretty knowledgeable about the everyday activities of the RMT workers, but you don't seem to be capable of doing anything with it.
 
Banning workers is just a waste of man-hours. The time spent investigating them and filing the paperwork for banning isn't worth it when they'll be back the next day. You nail the banks, you eliminate all they've worked for. Yeah, they'll be back. Make a new banker, but they have to resupply what they've lost. The characters are throw away, billions of gil when you're selling it is not. RMT doesn't give a shit about their elvaans and their mithras.
 
If you ban the IP everyone on that IP gets a ban. Key locking is easier I agree. I will agree if you go after the banker would be the best solution, but honestly Skaw, Baj is key locking going to be even top 5 ways to stop RMT? Nope because they can just go out and buy another copy for however much it is on Ebay China or where-ever they might be. That is why IP banning would work the best.

Key locking would work in a profit for SE though because people have to go out and buy the game again if they so please to. That is the only reason I could see why SE doesn't do strict IP bannings if even the same IP has been banned before. I think the only time an IP ban occurs if it is a third time offender. The statement of people who were banned for violating ToS before and comming back is a vague statement. We don't know if it was 2nd 3rd 4th offenses. I think SE is just shooting for profit with key lockings. As for banning workers with key locks means more games that have to be bought than just the bank while banning the bank. So that shop would either close down or made so much money that they just go out and buy more copies and start over fresh. SE sees all that money comming in from people having to buy the game. After all Square Enix is a business and what is the motive of any business? Profit. They really don't care about us so long as we keep paying them money to keep playing.
 
romperstomper said:
If you ban the IP everyone on that IP gets a ban.
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Romper I have a Dynamic IP, meaning everytime I disconnect from the internet and reconnect I have a different IP, i'm sure even if the gilsellers don't already have their connections set up this way, they would if they got IP banned.
 
Sharpe said:
Romper I have a Dynamic IP, meaning everytime I disconnect from the internet and reconnect I have a different IP, i'm sure even if the gilsellers don't already have their connections set up this way, they would if they got IP banned.
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Essentially that is a phone line Sharpe. That is how a phone line works is accessing through a different number each time. I don't think communist China would allow for something like that as China limits what can be seen on the internet over there (except for Hong Kong I think. I don't know if it is still a princeapalady{sp}.). So China would have to have a massive web blocker set on their system. Which is completely possible as they are communist for the most part and would probably supply the internet. I know China is trying to move away from Communism.
 
romperstomper said:
Essentially that is a phone line Sharpe. That is how a phone line works is accessing through a different number each time. I don't think communist China would allow for something like that as China limits what can be seen on the internet over there (except for Hong Kong I think. I don't know if it is still a princeapalady{sp}.). So China would have to have a massive web blocker set on their system. Which is completely possible as they are communist for the most part and would probably supply the internet. I know China is trying to move away from Communism.
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...do you have any idea what you are even talking about?
 
romperstomper said:
Essentially that is a phone line Sharpe. That is how a phone line works is accessing through a different number each time. I don't think communist China would allow for something like that as China limits what can be seen on the internet over there (except for Hong Kong I think. I don't know if it is still a princeapalady{sp}.). So China would have to have a massive web blocker set on their system. Which is completely possible as they are communist for the most part and would probably supply the internet. I know China is trying to move away from Communism.
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You can get phone line internet without Dynamic IP addresses though. Also please don't call China communist, they are Communist purely by name.
 
Sharpe said:
You can get phone line internet without Dynamic IP addresses though. Also please don't call China communist, they are Communist purely by name.
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Yeah, you can have a Static Dial-Up IP, as well as a Dynamic High-Speed IP.
 
Bajaratt said:
I meant romper, actually.
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RMT never bothered me enough to go ZMG! I quit! Have they pissed me off before? Yes. Do I still feel like quitting because of that? No.
 
hay dontz bea mean to tah RMT's thay ned to fed thar famirys wid rice
 
Why Romper's posts were so retarded to read. You really have no clue how China is OR how IPs work lol. And what do you think IGE is farmed by Chinese workers? Most of them are NA college students making an extra buck.

IP Bans stop NOONE. I think Blazn has proven that to you guys enough times. What do you think, he goes out and gets a new connection everytime he comes back on here? IP is a joke and it was never meant to be a permanent ID of any sorts.
 
Artem said:
Why Romper's posts were so retarded to read. You really have no clue how China is OR how IPs work lol. And what do you think IGE is farmed by Chinese workers? Most of them are NA college students making an extra buck.

IP Bans stop NOONE. I think Blazn has proven that to you guys enough times. What do you think, he goes out and gets a new connection everytime he comes back on here? IP is a joke and it was never meant to be a permanent ID of any sorts.
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hey thar proxy server
 
Sorry for the slight bump but I didn't want to make a thread about this

What I question with all of these bannings is how many people they just played double jeopardy with.

I've admitted it before on this forum, I hacked for quite a long time, and got a 3 day ban on it. After that ban though I played exclusively on PS2 and, obviously, didn't hack again.

But still got banned. I called SE and they told me originally that they put notes on accounts as to why the player was banned, most companies do this. like for example:

account name: pbqd3826
status: suspended (use of third party tools)

The weird thing is here, my account had no note. The customer service rep I was talking to didn't understand it either, and actually submitted an error report. They told me I would either get a call back informing me of what's wrong, or I would just get unbanned.

Neither happened. So I called again, and they just started saying they don't socialize with those who've been suspended in the past, and hung up on me at that point.

It's a touchy subject. I know people that are saying "I was banned for windower use" or some other bullshit is like I just said.. bullshit. I among many other people I know have been banned for previous offenses after months or more of clean activity. It's weird.
 
Tymon said:
Sorry for the slight bump but I didn't want to make a thread about this

What I question with all of these bannings is how many people they just played double jeopardy with.

I've admitted it before on this forum, I hacked for quite a long time, and got a 3 day ban on it. After that ban though I played exclusively on PS2 and, obviously, didn't hack again.

But still got banned. I called SE and they told me originally that they put notes on accounts as to why the player was banned, most companies do this. like for example:

account name: pbqd3826
status: suspended (use of third party tools)

The weird thing is here, my account had no note. The customer service rep I was talking to didn't understand it either, and actually submitted an error report. They told me I would either get a call back informing me of what's wrong, or I would just get unbanned.

Neither happened. So I called again, and they just started saying they don't socialize with those who've been suspended in the past, and hung up on me at that point.

It's a touchy subject. I know people that are saying "I was banned for windower use" or some other bullshit is like I just said.. bullshit. I among many other people I know have been banned for previous offenses after months or more of clean activity. It's weird.
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if i was you try 3rd time.
 
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