Poor Rangers = Bad Rangers

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alanon said:
First, Holy shitballs batman! How in the hell di you know that I was skimmin this thread and going to respond Kat?

"Kat's Psychic Skills increase 0.3"

Ummmm, cuz I'm a Mom. Y'all know what I mean. You walk in the door from school or where ever and she gives you "that look." Like she KNOWS what you've been up to :D .

'kay now for the truth :lol: . I got you and Narrel mixed up :wink: hehe ...
 
wolfskymoon said:
OK no offense to anyone but let me remind you guys something.THis game is suppose to be a game and not something thats "Life or death".Not everyone playing ffxi has the time or money to to either farm all dayand night or buy gil online.I know i saw a guy once who was subbing pld with drk and that scked but it doesnt mean that a good ranger can only be the one who only buys plus 1's or HQ's.Also nin might be a good subjob for ranger but warrior isnt bad either.Ranger is suppose to be a DD and with berserk and all that shit that u get from WAR,u can do awesome damage but offcourse u need a good tank to keep u alive.War sub for thief is alot better (in my opinion) than nin sub because a whole sub job for only three hits during pulling,is not worth it.Thief with war sub can do alot more dmg since ever after dual wield 2 u cant match the dmg that thief gets with berserk.But thf/nin is also a typo temporary tanks for nms and stuff.
In the end all i wanna make clear is that ppl are taking Ffxi way too seriously.I mean i think all the jobs are almost balanced.Day after day ffxi is becomin a damn chore and ppl are putting forward their own self made requirements to level up in the game.

I'll disagree with the Thf comment. Seriously War wont add THAT much damage to a dagger. The AGI, and more importantly the TP gaining abilities from Thf/Nin outweigh Thf/War. Just my opinion for what it's worth.

On a side note: I am scaring myself, being able to understand most of WSM's post.
 
Ok, ive been feeling very relaxed and enlightened lately, and i wanted to kind of bring this thread back on topic. I must first say that im starting to like vang, hes a great source of entertainment, and personally im contemplating awarding him with the late great Kiets' cross with which to display himself. But seriously, i agree with decidence on his asessment of vang, in that vang is in all likelihood a skilled player, and if he could just get the attitude together potentially a great one. Now:

I agree with vangs premise, please stop being gimp. i dont demand peacock charm, i dont expect E-bow, but i sure as hell dont expect a lvl 2 war sub and a boomerang. ty. One thing vang neglected to cover, that i shall, is i expect at least Marginal comprehension of battle mechanics and pt dynamic therein. Meaning: skillchains. tp call macros. dont voke for no reason. You know what i mean. Samurais refuse to skillchain, noone calls tp, dark knights use souleater and last resort then voke. I think all of you are chinese. i have great difficulty comprehending these things, im not the best player by far, but i am a highly experienced one, and i know what to do and indeed i do it, at the right times. Its not like building a space shuttle, there are Not over 1 million working parts in a pt, there are 6. And of those 6 working parts, most mellees are required to interact with at most 2 thereof at any given time, in simple and routine procedures that by at least lvl 40 should be very familiar and almost 2nd nature. example:
skillchain piercing arrow >> tachi enpi, distortion with a blizzaga burst, simple enough. ranger calls tp. sam does nothing. rng calls tp. sam carries on doing nothing. samurai meditates so rng thinks "ah-ha! hes ready now!", waits 3 secs, lets piercing rip. samurai carries on doing nothing again then when mob (and ranger) are nearly dead the samurai lets fly with a tachi enpi for no apparent reason. Youve all seen this, and its not isolated incidents. anyway, cant really help it, you explain, you cajole, they seem to understand, or claim they do, and they then carry on once again doing nothing that makes any sort of sense. A whm in my ls asked me the other day why i accept pt invites like that. Why? im a monk. I dont get pt invites. once every 2 days maybe, if its down to me and a drg. maybe. Ironic, since at lvl 44 i outdamage every other melle job, and pre-sidewinder, i even (per hit when 2 fists are counted together) and on ws outdamage the much vaunted rngs. the non-gimp kind. at 55 sure theyll blow past me, but as it stands it makes me want to gouge out my eyeballs. anyway, that was all a ramble, on to the point.

Vang, listen bud, it IS tough seeing gimps ruin your jobs rep, but really what it does is make you look better by comparison. Rng is a job that demands commitment and dedication, not just for the millions in gil you SHOOT into the air over the course of your career, but to put up with people who make it harder for you, gimps who piss you off, people on alla who say "omfg you fail@rng cuz you arent a mithra" and so on. Of all the jobs in the game, rng and mnk are the 2 that take the most sack to get to 75, for different reasons. And vang, of all the things i suspected or opined about you, being short of sack was not one of them. So you gave up ranger? Aint got the balls for it then? because there is no other excuse, you have the money, apparently you just dont have the love.

On a constructive note, getting back to what i was saying about your potential. I'm very serious about this, you need to stop a second and look at this thread and the people who posted in response to it. Ask some of the na's whove been at 75 for awhile who They would go to if they had ranger questions, or needed ranger advice. Their answers would be Synical, Reality, Alteredstate, maybe Dalva, and possibly Decidence as well. Now in this thread, 2 of the people on that list have responded, one to point out the ridiculousness of Your top rng picks and the other to suggest your attitude needs time off in a tibetan monastery or something, and i happen to agree with them both. I'll put it like this, because these are seriously people you should respect or at least listen to. If i were to post a vicious diatribe (as i do sometimes) about all things monkish, and then Xion and Groo were to post in response telling me i was off base, i would most certainly be inclined to listen and would then look them up in game for some serious conversation. Or if Jsoft or Bjbreeze were to tell me my thf gear needed an overhaul. Or jazper said i needed work on my paladin. Basically vang, and this may be offensive and defeat my purpose here, but its the only way i can think of to put it: You are marky mark, and They are Eric Clapton, and you guys are having a discussion about how to play the blues. So for your own improvement id recommend you pay attention. Theyve been there, seen that, got the t-shirt and not only earned their stripes, but tinkered with those stripes for hours on end trying to find the best way to get those stripes to help them break 4k damage on an orc in davoi.

Everyone please forgive the length of my post, but everyone seems to (understandably) just flame vang, but i really believe that there Could potentially be a great player buried under there. Vang, think about this:
there arent many 75 rangers these days. there arent many Good rangers these days. A 75 ranger is a wonderful thing, in high demand and generally held in high regard by all concerned. There arent enough, and there arent enough that are Good. Not xp pt Competent good, i mean Good as in "trust that guy to the death in a 5 weapon link in romaeve, get chain 6 without breaking a sweat" good. thought about that? heres where it relates to you. to be there, to be that, you need 3 things, and 3 things only. Skills. Attitude. Sack.

Youve got the skills, now get the attitude right and sack it up. Youre not a quitter are you?
 
The sad thing is those veteran rangers are dissapearing =/

I havent seen Alteredstate and Dalva around for awhile.
 
this is STIGMATAS not hyre

ok so i haxed his account cause i dont have one of my own just yet

i'm having some tech difficulties on getting a account

old school rangers.....
deci
chely<jp>
reality
filenotfound<jp>
<me>
altered
neptun
syn
rashyyyk
strid

i'd rather not comment on anything thats about flaming the local teen rangers on our server.... the way they conduct themselves in PT and in game is enough for me.... to pass judgement

most of you know i'm a asshole ~
but a good asshole~

welcome, nice to meet you guy.

rng/nin
taru lvl 75
this is me with whats left of team rng :|
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and to end my post ill leave you with my newest sig
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"Life is like a bitch with a dick cause i'm always getting fucked"
copyrighted 1985 queens ny
 
oh shit, it's Hyre!!!!!!!!!!



and i forgot about Strid too, hahaha

damn.. that WAS long ago .....................
 
decidence said:
TiyaKelth said:
decidence said:
This is turning into a thread where Yanzi tries to justify spending too much money on his/her BLM...

Oh, I didn't realise going all out to be the best you can be is something you need to justify... Or are you just jealous that Yanzi has better gear than you? :D

I suppose I could get a Phantom Earring +1

omg, i don't have this, i'm still using my level 30 morion earring. i'm sooooo gimp. please forgive me final fantasy 11 gods!!!
 
yanzi said:
omg, i don't have this, i'm still using my level 30 morion earring. i'm sooooo gimp. please forgive me final fantasy 11 gods!!!

OMG Deci has something you don't?!?! He better start justifying it RIGHT NOW!!!!
 
Nin sub adds Agi but agi is mostly so that the mob misses u or adds to Sata (I'm not sure).So nin sub is good for solo since u dun wanna take much damage but for parties War is alot better and berserk does add alot of dmg to dagger hits and weaponskill. (It should ).The blink is also good for solo cuz the tank is suppose to take all hits.
 
TiyaKelth said:
yanzi said:
omg, i don't have this, i'm still using my level 30 morion earring. i'm sooooo gimp. please forgive me final fantasy 11 gods!!!

OMG Deci has something you don't?!?! He better start justifying it RIGHT NOW!!!!

though i haven't even been able to buy one, this piece is not sold very often on AH... what a rip... 2mil for 1 extra int.
 
yanzi said:
decidence said:
TiyaKelth said:
decidence said:
This is turning into a thread where Yanzi tries to justify spending too much money on his/her BLM...

Oh, I didn't realise going all out to be the best you can be is something you need to justify... Or are you just jealous that Yanzi has better gear than you? :D

I suppose I could get a Phantom Earring +1

omg, i don't have this, i'm still using my level 30 morion earring. i'm sooooo gimp. please forgive me final fantasy 11 gods!!!

I don't have it either... Im not paying that kind of gil for 1 INT...
 
wolfskymoon said:
Nin sub adds Agi but agi is mostly so that the mob misses u or adds to Sata (I'm not sure).So nin sub is good for solo since u dun wanna take much damage but for parties War is alot better and berserk does add alot of dmg to dagger hits and weaponskill. (It should ).The blink is also good for solo cuz the tank is suppose to take all hits.

NIN subs provides with the following:
- Dual Wield = +10-12 R.Acc. on a second knife in your off hand
- Utsusemi = less trouble on pulls and able to over-aggro in a fight without taking damage (THFs love that for a 2nd SA/TA on the tank mid-fight)
- +AGI = better R.Acc.
- +DEX = more critical hits
- Subtle Hit = less TP to the mob with melee hits
- And I don't know if Alertness and Stealth stack, oh well...

So do your big number hits if you want. I'll be laughing my ass off though as you die and need to spend another stack of arrows just to get your xp loss back.
 
Hey Stig, good to see you're still around. I love that pic, that was just before the Kirin fight for anyone who was wondering. All you guys were missing was a galka ; ;. yeah, your list covered it. of them the following no longer play:


alteredstate
neptunian
rashyyyk
strid

Alt deleted his ebow with his account, he always swore hed never ever sell the thing. rash i'm pretty sure sold his account. And strid.....had some weirdness, but i hear finally called it quits. Your list stig is The definitive "rangers who know their shit" list. refer all questions and inquiries to those named therein.
 
ok, for one thing vang, Ninja sub ISNT the only good sub for RNGs, just because YOU think its good, doesnt mean its the 100% best, i know ppl who make jobs work with crazy SJs that ppl would NVR think of... so yeah, RNG/WAR can work, RNG/(add job here) can work (tehe), so yeah, and RNGs arnt for only rich ppl, poor ppl cam play it too, arrows r cheap prices now ^^
 
ppl can make any job work, a galka whm works, why cant a nin/war? blm/rdm works, (even with the lower mp, it still works)... whm/rdm does too... so juz cuz they got different subs, dont hate em! >:) :twisted:
 
You're totally missing the point Black... sure they can work, but they aren't as good as other choices.
 
I HATE RNG/WAR unless there is a real RNG in the PT to compensate for this RNG/WARs utter lack of ability at pulling. They usualy come back pretty mauled up and need a cure relatively soon, this inturn gets the hate on me, utterly fucking SATA through the pants. So I have to sit there and wait and hope the RNG does not get him/herself killed. My experience has been that a RNG/WAR will die 3-4 times a night if he is pulling, usualy before he gets to the PT. No matter how you look at it RNG/Wars can not take the hits to well. They realy do not have a whole lot more Defence or Vitality then a mage. My Experience with the RNG WARs though is they chose this subjob because tey where to cheap and or lazy to get Ninja to where it should be.

Usualy the defence, "I like the extra melle DMG" REALY means I got to lvl 30 war with a lvl 8ish mnk subjob, unlocked RNG and am only doing that now. BAH RNG is the most expensive job in game by far, if you can not take the heat get out of the kitchen.
 
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