Regarding some Xarc fun yesterday night

I just don't understand why you feel so wronged. No Japanese shells use this forum, for obvious reasons. You talk about them like they are a big bad bully or something, which is just retarded. Pretty much every veteran dynamis shell has run into this problem at some point or another with Japanese shells, its what happens when only the english speaking community uses the dynamis scheduling forum. Like everyone has pointed out, they were willing to reach a compromise on who would get the zone but you rejected it. You were the unreasonable people and just screwed yourselves by not willing to come to a compromise and instead be dicks and ruin the dynamis for 2/3 of your own shell.

Also, plenty of us have had this happen as I said. I can't remember even being offered an option to random for the zone by the Japanese, I'm amazed they even were willing to do that. While plenty of us have had this happen, none of us have ever pulled shit like this. Good going fucking up the opportunity to have decent relations with that shell.
 
Shells do use this forum they just don't post on it, but they do have lurkers who check many of the shells who don't even run during prime time NA hours will still at least check.

Qcdn really isn't even an issue as they shouted looking for members they asked will anyone be possibly doing the zone at that time. They were told and then act surprised when they see our shell coming and were told again that we planned on it.
 
BTW for those interested and need a new dynamis shell LOLDynamis is currently recruiting, we do not swipe dynamis zones and we are fun and very fair(shameless promotion) :P Get at Myself, Galiant,or just come out this friday for a pearl :D

Sorry jyak but my main response to this is HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. Half the people listed on their god damned recruitment post have LEFT the ls due to similar issues that I had.
 
I don't see what them being JP has to do with it really. How would it be diffferent if they were an EU/NA shell? And how would Ragnarok be commended for their actions if this were the case? Their actions were fucked up, and they would be fucked up to whoever it was done to. Passing a motion to have your Linkshell spam trade to a glass-holder in another linkshell in an attempt to gain access to a dynamis run they have paid for is a sure-fire way to give your linkshell a shit reputation, that's about all I can see.
 
@Krono - counting the Xzibit pic, the one in your avatar, and the one in your sig...

(3>1) = many.

The avatar is not a meme. It's just a random pic. And I found my sig on ps3 fan forum >.>
A meme is a joke or phrase that people use over and over. Like "I think Tristam Green is a pretty cool guy, eh doesn't know what a meme is and doesn't afraid of anything."

Meikolia said:
What is wrong with you?! On a serious note Stay on Panda.

At least the shell I join doesn't fuck me over in 2 years, and waste peoples times while city runs while half that shell is clueless as that what the coins are going towards or how far the progress is. I'll stay on Pandy and enjoy my time, ty.
 
xKronox said:
At least the shell I join doesn't fuck me over in 2 years, and waste peoples times while city runs while half that shell is clueless as that what the coins are going towards or how far the progress is. I'll stay on Pandy and enjoy my time, ty.

Wow let me rephrase that. At least the shell I joined on Pandy didn't fuck me like the 3 years I ran with you guys. At least on Pandy my time isn't wasted by city runs that accumulate coins that half of your shell have no idea where they are going, or what the current status on said relic upgrader is.

When you say things like "Stay on Pandy" again I will take it personal.
 
Wow let me rephrase that. At least the shell I joined on Pandy didn't fuck me like the 3 years I ran with you guys. At least on Pandy my time isn't wasted by city runs that accumulate coins that half of your shell have no idea where they are going, or what the current status on said relic upgrader is.

When you say things like "Stay on Pandy" again I will take it personal.

I don't want to throw this topic off course but I want to explain myself to Krono here.

Ok let me start over. Since I don't want you to take anything personally.

You were gone for MONTHS not like 1 or 2 like 5 - 6. While you were gone the linkshell was tearing shit up with Ixion and Sandworm. You come back and raise all kinds of hell because it's not jumping and shaking and your failure to realize that some people are exhausted is beyond me.

No one screwed you over. On second thought... You're refering to the blm hat list that you got bumped on after being absent for almost six months. The priorities where redesigned to protect Dynamis from people like you who disappear and or do other things come back and expect things to be handed to them. Dynamis takes people showing up to work and how else should the people who show be rewarded? It's not fair and it's not right. I explained to you previously that in almost any other Dynamis shell that works in tiers you wouldn't have even been a second thought. I carefully plan out runs for Dynamis according to need or want and the last time i checked we don't do more then two city runs out of 8 or 9 you get a month. Sometimes I but city runs on certain days because I calculate the number of people who will show up on that day. Does this not make sense to you? That obviously wasn't good enough for you since you took it personally and threw a fit. I don't know how you can't see that but it's fine you can take it as a screw over. I don't know many people will really look at it that way but alright.

Your time was wasted? Explain to me how the next upgrade has anything to do with you personally unless you're pissed off that the next recommended person was not you? It took us time to think about the next upgrade you know that but it's a lot easier to accuse of the worse then coming up with the best possible solution.

I will not pick a fight with you because I don't like rolling around in the mud. It's obvious your retaliation for something i meant as a joke was to immediately spew nonsense but you do whatever it is that makes you better. You could have asked any of us what the next upgrade was keep in mind it just got decided about a month ago. You didn't ask me and I am the person in charge of currency, scheduling and priorities. Not once. You see what I mean about assuming the worse?
 
I don't want to throw this topic off course but I want to explain myself to Krono here.

Ok let me start over. Since I don't want you to take anything personally.

You were gone for MONTHS not like 1 or 2 like 5 - 6. While you were gone the linkshell was tearing shit up with Ixion and Sandworm. You come back and raise all kinds of hell because it's not jumping and shaking and your failure to realize that some people are exhausted is beyond me.

No one screwed you over. On second thought... You're refering to the blm hat list that you got bumped on after being absent for almost six months. The priorities where redesigned to protect Dynamis from people like you who disappear and or do other things come back and expect things to be handed to them. Dynamis takes people showing up to work and how else should the people who show be rewarded? It's not fair and it's not right. I explained to you previously that in almost any other Dynamis shell that works in tiers you wouldn't have even been a second thought. I carefully plan out runs for Dynamis according to need or want and the last time i checked we don't do more then two city runs out of 8 or 9 you get a month. Sometimes I but city runs on certain days because I calculate the number of people who will show up on that day. Does this not make sense to you? That obviously wasn't good enough for you since you took it personally and threw a fit. I don't know how you can't see that but it's fine you can take it as a screw over. I don't know many people will really look at it that way but alright.

Your time was wasted? Explain to me how the next upgrade has anything to do with you personally unless you're pissed off that the next recommended person was not you? It took us time to think about the next upgrade you know that but it's a lot easier to accuse of the worse then coming up with the best possible solution.

I will not pick a fight with you because I don't like rolling around in the mud. It's obvious your retaliation for something i meant as a joke was to immediately spew nonsense but you do whatever it is that makes you better. You could have asked any of us what the next upgrade was keep in mind it just got decided about a month ago. You didn't ask me and I am the person in charge of currency, scheduling and priorities. Not once. You see what I mean about assuming the worse?

Protip: If you are joking around around don't start the line with, "On a serious note..."

I was gone for 3 months. I lost alot of things. 3mil in payouts, my spot in blm hat line (which I've been waiting for years.) Yeah I'm upset about getting bumped, but you know whatever.

So all my hardwork in dynamis and all of the time I've spent, I lose everything because RL happened for 3 months. Makes perfect sense. Rewards my ass.

And yes we only do 2-3 northland runs a month.(If that) Everything else is city runs / dreamlands. Which ya know, at first I didn't mind. I cheered everyone on that was upgrading. I went to every single run when I was home. But then it just seemed like we could do more tav/ northlands to even things out to be more fair, but we didn't.

I asked ALOT on who the upgraders are or who the potential upgraders are, and I never got a response. Come to think of it I rarely got a response from anyone if ever had a question to ask.

If your players are getting burnt out then maybe it's the leaders job, and that means you to get them motivated again. We were killing shit left and right even before I left due to RL. I tried hard and bitched at people to get them to camp shit. But no, there was no leadership at all.

People would get ToDs, wipe in stall parties, just the small select few, ya know? But everyone else had no motivation what so ever.

If you are a HNMLS then act like a HNMLS, and not some pseudo dynamis/einj shell that rather do turtle ks99 over dragon ks99 because you can't even get anyone to camp/claim aspid and because the inner circle wants BB's.

I cared a lot for the LS, I really did. Did I want anything from any of the HNMs we wanted to kill? No. But what about everyone else. Sorry if the inner core and the leads have everything they ever wanted. These are the people you mention that are burned out. You also failed to get newer members to camp. Why?

You guys changed way too much.

Don't get me wrong. I AM grateful for all the things we have accomplished and the treasures I have obtained. It should be beyond the individual though, it should be about what we do as a group. And in the end we didn't do shit.
 
Protip: If you are joking around around don't start the line with, "On a serious note..."

I was gone for 3 months. I lost alot of things. 3mil in payouts, my spot in blm hat line (which I've been waiting for years.) Yeah I'm upset about getting bumped, but you know whatever.

So all my hardwork in dynamis and all of the time I've spent, I lose everything because RL happened for 3 months. Makes perfect sense. Rewards my ass.

And yes we only do 2-3 northland runs a month.(If that) Everything else is city runs / dreamlands. Which ya know, at first I didn't mind. I cheered everyone on that was upgrading. I went to every single run when I was home. But then it just seemed like we could do more tav/ northlands to even things out to be more fair, but we didn't.

I asked ALOT on who the upgraders are or who the potential upgraders are, and I never got a response. Come to think of it I rarely got a response from anyone if ever had a question to ask.

If your players are getting burnt out then maybe it's the leaders job, and that means you to get them motivated again. We were killing shit left and right even before I left due to RL. I tried hard and bitched at people to get them to camp shit. But no, there was no leadership at all.

People would get ToDs, wipe in stall parties, just the small select few, ya know? But everyone else had no motivation what so ever.

If you are a HNMLS then act like a HNMLS, and not some pseudo dynamis/einj shell that rather do turtle ks99 over dragon ks99 because you can't even get anyone to camp/claim aspid and because the inner circle wants BB's.

I cared a lot for the LS, I really did. Did I want anything from any of the HNMs we wanted to kill? No. But what about everyone else. Sorry if the inner core and the leads have everything they ever wanted. These are the people you mention that are burned out. You also failed to get newer members to camp. Why?

You guys changed way too much.

Don't get me wrong. I AM grateful for all the things we have accomplished and the treasures I have obtained. It should be beyond the individual though, it should be about what we do as a group. And in the end we didn't do shit.

You're running off limited information.

I'll just say anytime you are dealing with disgruntle people it's always the leaderships fault.

I will point out a few things, we do work around other linkshells as far as Dynamis goes. There are a lot of Dynamis shells around that were not around that are now. 50% of our runs are Northlands, which is half of the month. Tavnazia, only holds 18 and it's hard to really not want to exclude people hence why we only do 1 a month.

Your not looking at the big picture. I'm not going to attempt to comfort you. I wish you the best, and i'm sorry we could not do things as quickly as you would have liked them done. A lot of changes have happened in the shell and it doesn't get put together overnight.

The game has gone to a different level for some of us.
I love how you left the shell and at the end of all this you just said fuck Perseverance. Again I am happy you found some place to suit your needs.

Take Care Krono.
 
*Looks up* ...

.................. Ugh.

... No. Nevermind.
 
You're running off limited information.

I'll just say anytime you are dealing with disgruntle people it's always the leaderships fault.

I will point out a few things, we do work around other linkshells as far as Dynamis goes. There are a lot of Dynamis shells around that were not around that are now. 50% of our runs are Northlands, which is half of the month. Tavnazia, only holds 18 and it's hard to really not want to exclude people hence why we only do 1 a month.

Your not looking at the big picture. I'm not going to attempt to comfort you. I wish you the best, and i'm sorry we could not do things as quickly as you would have liked them done. A lot of changes have happened in the shell and it doesn't get put together overnight.

The game has gone to a different level for some of us.
I love how you left the shell and at the end of all this you just said fuck Perseverance. Again I am happy you found some place to suit your needs.

Take Care Krono.

I'm sorry, but if leaders aren't addressing the issues then yes, it's your fault.

I've seen months where you only have 1 xarc and there NO conflicts for more xarc zones.

I don't see what the big picture is because there is no big picture. Don't make something like not camping HNMs complicated. It isn't. I don't see any changes done so drastic that conflict with other things we should be doing. Please enlighten me.

If the game has gone a different level for you, then maybe you shouldn't be a leader of a HNMLS, or just let all members know that the LS is no longer a HNMLS.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said fuck Perseverance. The things that happened are on a individual base.

I am also happy where I am, and thank you. I hope a strong future for your dynamis/einj shell.
 
Uh did you give a reason for being gone 3 months to the leaders? Because rational leaders will skip over someone who has been gone that long.
 
Just a quick jump in here. When I was in Invictus long ago, we had lots of trouble with JP shells snaking our zones. It happened anywhere but was more prevalent in the northlands. Then it became a race of "Everyone get to zone XXXXX NOW!" If we didn't get enough people to show up on time, we loose the zone to the steal. Part of this is prompt attendance of shell members. I really believe that.


I understand QDCN scheduling is a courtesy and not required. I also understand those guys have their own forums in Japanese. I wish we could get on good terms with these groups and work together. From Twist's first post, it sounds like they did work together.

Hate to sound like an episode of Oprah, but that's probably our best bet of making this thing better in the future.
 
Entering someone else's claimed dynamis zone (ie, they already traded their glass and some of their members are in) by a freak accident and then not leaving is pretty weak.

You can't really defend yourself from that action.
 
The solution?

Stop horizontal progression.

Also instanced servers so you can put up with the "additional instances can not be loaded at this time" that has plagued WotLK.
 
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