Some People Are Dumb

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Flip your argument around. Say that a self-professed gay guy, comfortably admitting to himself and others that he's generally attracted to men and not to women, at one point in his life finds himself attracted to a woman and has sex with her.

Does this suddenly make him straight, in spite of everything else in his life?

You can no more say that an otherwise-straight man, who has gay sex once, is now "gay" than you can say that an otherwise-gay man, who has straight sex once, is now "straight".

There's more to sexuality than just a black and white, this-or-that, picture with nice friendly labels on it. If you insist on a label for your example, then probably most of us fall under the category of "technically bisexual but 99.999% predominantly gay/straight".

You're right that a straight guy who has gay sex once is no longer 100% straight, but there's a difference between 99.999% straight and 100% gay. :P

And I figure the 99.999% people can just round to 100% when it comes to labelling themselves, for all the difference that one encounter would really make. Ultimately, your self-label for sexuality (if you even give yourself one) is all that matters. Those whom you are predominantly attracted to (physically and emotionally) determine your sexuality, and there's no rule saying there can't be exceptions.

It's a lot like taking this example to a stronger extreme: you're usually attracted to brunettes, but one time you saw this knockout blonde and were attracted to her. This does not in any way change the fact that you're still usually attracted to brunettes.

Dude i totally disagree with everything you just said. Redheads ftw!

Sorry you may go back to your arguement/debate now.
 
Artem said:
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While I like the effort you've put into your argument Artem, it seems you're forgetting one thing... This is a hypothetical situation in which you -have- to choose between one or the other. You're making it sound like you're willingly choosing Brad Pitt over any other woman, by your own free will. The mitigating circumstances, in my opinion, cause this to be an unfair label, if you think that a guy is gay for being FORCED to choose either Brad Pitt or something giant fucking bitch who probably smells like fucking goose chud. Sex with that woman would be like watching a quadruple amputee being raped by a herd of wild water buffaloes.
 
QCDN's collective understanding of homosexuality is very very skewed. You guys, and correct me if I'm wrong, believe that your homosexuality is defined by who you sleep with now, at this very time, not who you slept with in the past.

Are you disagreeing with that?
 
While I like the effort you've put into your argument Artem, it seems you're forgetting one thing... This is a hypothetical situation in which you -have- to choose between one or the other. You're making it sound like you're willingly choosing Brad Pitt over any other woman, by your own free will. The mitigating circumstances, in my opinion, cause this to be an unfair label, if you think that a guy is gay for being FORCED to choose either Brad Pitt or something giant fucking bitch who probably smells like fucking goose chud. Sex with that woman would be like watching a quadruple amputee being raped by a herd of wild water buffaloes.

I agree; I don't think Sneaky ever said Brad Pitt sexually aroused him. Pitt is just the lesser of two evils for him in the event that he HAS to pick one.
 
So your a liar too you dumb fuck? Go back to the post, it was an order of people you wanted shot. Apparently, I rank above a person who wants to murder homosexuals for fun.




Why do I deserve it? Cause I don't agree with you? When have I ever said anything bad to you before this thread? Your just a bomb-throwing moron who gets off trolls threads. 8000+ posts and not a single intelligent word has ever come out of your stupid face.


Biggest idiots to ever appear on QCDN.org:

1) Sneakypants
2) Colbwa
3) Roofie


What part of, "DUMB ASS, that wasn't a ranking. That was a list, in order of appearance. LOLOLOLOL. You fail.", didn't you understand?

I'm not too sure why you are so confused, but that was me clearing the situation up. You thought I was placing you in a ranking, when it was a mere list.


You deserve it because you act like a dumb shit. See me just chatting and discussing things with other people that do the same? Yeah.

I actually got rated up specifically for ripping on you. lol
Something like, "'It's always fun to put Tom in his place."
Meaning, you get out of line, yet it's fun and easy to put you back where you belong.

lol @ your spiteful ranking. GJ on that. wewt
 
Maybe girls should never kiss other girls, since apparently it's so nasty to be homosexual this day and age.
 
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lol @ your spiteful ranking. GJ on that. wewt


My only mistake is getting sucked into retarded arguements with the same 1/2 dozen morons that troll this site looking to add to there post count. There was nothing spiteful about my ranking, I happen to believe your as incoherent and hateful as your other 2 collegues. I need to focus debating with people on the other side of the arguement with people like Vilurum and Artem who actually make ligitimate points, I may or may not agree with, and ignore the trash like you. Since your only retort to just about everything is to toss out a bunch of insults, I have nothing further to say to you.
 
Having said that, I do not see how willingly choosing a guy to have sex with does not make you gay. There is nothing wrong with being gay; however, if you can get your dick hard for another man and you can fuck him willingly, than you are gay.

Now, many of you say that one experience does not make you gay, but that one experiences requires attraction, which defines homosexuality.


It doesn't require attraction. It requires Viagra. Someone said no amount of Viagra would help them get it up, but obviously they don't understand that a mere recommended dosage won't give them the option.

I would agree that attraction is where the line is drawn. You're either attracted or not.

In this case I am not attracted to either. If I was, this thread wouldn't exist. lol
In this hypothetical scenario, I'd choose the movie star over the rhino and be done with it. IRL, I'd probably just stand there and implode, but hey, this isn't about RL. The people that defend their manliness, tooth and nail over this silly question, are ridiculous...That's why the thread exists.

The purpose it serves has changed shape plenty, and I think that's a good thing for this dialogue, but I'd still like to remind why this is here to begin with. Few people seem to understand this.
 
Maybe girls should never kiss other girls, since apparently it's so nasty to be homosexual this day and age.

Now, now... everyone knows that lesbians (or at least the adorable lipstick "lesbians" in straight porn) get a free pass.

The line between Heterosexual and Homosexual has a lot of gray areas in between, and it's very rarely a solid break between the two -- some of you guys act like Bisexuality doesn't exist when it very clearly does. That's why I've always liked Kinsey's scale of sexual orientation:

0 Exclusively heterosexual
1 Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
2 Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3 Equally heterosexual and homosexual
4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5 Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
6 Exclusively homosexual

If you're willing to pick Brad Pitt over the 700-pound she-behemoth even though you'd normally never look sideways at a guy, you're #1 on the list and not #0. I'm #5 because, while I'm pretty much exclusively homosexual, I've had sex with women in the past and could get it up for Jessica Alba.
 
My only mistake is getting sucked into retarded arguements with the same 1/2 dozen morons that troll this site looking to add to there post count. There was nothing spiteful about my ranking, I happen to believe your as incoherent and hateful as your other 2 collegues. I need to focus debating with people on the other side of the arguement with people like Vilurum and Artem who actually make ligitimate points, I may or may not agree with, and ignore the trash like you. Since your only retort to just about everything is to toss out a bunch of insults, I have nothing further to say to you.



You failed to notice I'm having the discussions you're talking about with a number of people here. That's how I want the thread to be. You say you want to participate in these types of discussions, so if you have something to bring to the table, bring it already. I have only encouraged good dialogue in this thread and via PMs and Rate-Ups to people who have made this thread a solid discussion. People that have brought poor dialogue (reads: reason why this thread was started, massive homophobes, and people that would prefer to kill all gays and lesbians) have been discouraged (reads: typical stupid flames and BS).
 
Oh ok, I get it. It's ok for me to be a little bit homosexual. But it's not okay for John and Billy, because what I do with a girl will turn guys on, but what they do won't? :cool: Very nice double standard.

Might I add, it's really not at all sexy or attractive when a guy just won't admit he'd do a guy over a 1,000lb lady. And have all that fat-slobber-blubber all over his :shock:.

And I think Brad Pitt is a terrible example, please use this guy. Now excuse me, I suddenly have to go afk...
 
I'd be a 0 on Hali's scale, unless it's Brad Pitt. I'ma claim I'm pregnant afterwards and say he raped me. Just like that slut in Colorado did to Kobe Bryant!

PS: I'm amazed this thread has kept up. It's a debate of homo-hetero and that can get a little dangerous when you argue over lifestyles that people live. I could care less about this either way. You'll never rid the world of people with distinct phobia's, whether homo or fatty.

PSS: I'm only posting here for the off chance of a rate up. Shout out to a cracka
 
Honestly, those who are making petty arguments and flaming others should just leave. The hypothetical question comes down to choice, and whatever you choose is what you deal with. Suffer the consequences.

I’m still shocked and appalled at the level of indecency to other players because of their sexual preferences. There is a large gay community on Quetzalcoatl and I’ve been lucky enough to know a lot of these people. Some of them are the most enduring, selfless, and charming people you will meet. If you can’t be friends with a man because he enjoys getting his pleasure with other men, then I encourage you to go back to 5th grade. This is 12 year old bullshit.

Sexuality is not a black or white area. Yes, there are preferences but things can change. They can change big time and maybe for the better. All that matters is that you’re with someone that makes you happy, and you make them happy. That’s all I can ask for, and it’s all you should ask for as well. Happiness dwarfs any illogical argument in this thread.

If you aren’t happy, find someone who makes you that way. I know I have.
 
This thread reminds me of Boston Legal where the gay 70 year old judge went to a "Gay clinic" cause he thought being gay was an illness.
 
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This thread reminds me of Boston Legal where the gay 70 year old judge when to a "Gay clinic" cause he thought being gay was an illness.

You watch that show? That's a good show. I don't get to catch it too often. Funny as shit though
 
This thread reminds me of Boston Legal where the gay 70 year old judge when to a "Gay clinic" cause he thought being gay was an illness.

Not to flame or anything but there's many documented studies that in some cases becoming gay is a result of a hormonal deficiency during the early stage of fetus' brain development. In other words, guys (this does not apply to girls at all, just guys) can actually be born completely 100% gay and never be attracted to girls at all. Though it's not bad, it is a result of something you would scientifically define as a disorder or illness.

I think most people overlook that possibility of it actually being an illness just on the pure fact that the word illness carries a negative connotation.
 
I don't quite follow the logic there, to be honest. It doesn't apply to girls and it doesn't apply to all guys (in other words, it in no way eliminates the possibility of "just being gay anyway"), so where's the proof that for the guys it does supposedly apply to, they're gay *because* of this and wouldn't simply have been gay anyway?

(Linky to aforementioned studies would also be nice, perhaps they cover that point, but if they don't then it's *quite* the logical blunder.)
 
This really is moving away from a hypothetical situation and really into defining sexuality and blah blah blah. It's an interesting thing to discuss, but really nobody can speak for both sides, and neither side will truly understand how eachother feels..

On topic, I'm bored and I wanna see some hot guy naked!
 
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