Soulstar ninjalotted YYR from Myrrh

Grats myrrh on EARING your YYR. Atleast your not a piece of shit who ninja'd it. Or a BIGGER piece of shit who condones ninjain. I love you.

Silly Kelyon you dont ear a YYR, you EARN it.

Just kidding I know what you mean.

CONGRATS Myrrh you deserve it, finally.
 
Congratulations on the robe, Myrrh. You've definitely been through some trials for it now -- I don't think even your archenemies will deny you that, at this point.


A whole lot of the same stuff, plus some good ol' Christian fun.

Zer, I hate to come at you this way, as you probably have the least amount of blame in this situation ... next to Myrrh. Still, you're digging yourself into a hole of guilt by association, and you KEEP ... USING ... THE ... SAME ... DEFENSES. You're just dressing them up as something new. I guess I'm one of the folks that are "nothing," because I sense that you didn't read my post. In its defense, it's really no longer than one of yours.


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First and foremost, you still haven't seemed to have acknowledged the idea that lotting rights were NOT "equal" in this case. You do say over and over that you suffered a great deal of "miscommunication" (for which you should be seriously considering action against Soulstar, by the way), but that doesn't cut it -- I address that point in particular right below.

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You've got to stop trying to "justify" the actions, and realize that the only thing for you to do is "apologize" for them. You can't keep burying half-sincere apologies in the middle of ten paragraphs of defensiveness. No amount of "not knowing about the agreement" will save any face for you, as you and Xean had no right to make a call regardless of how much you knew. Any attempt to "explain" why you made the decision isn't helping, simply because you're dodging the fact that the decision wasn't yours to make.

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No amount of "trying to make nice" is going to make the situation any better, simply because there was more to this whole nastiness than the simple act of Ninja-lotting. When you suddenly know that certain people hate your friggin' guts (Xean most prominently among them), you're not about to just let them go back to pretending that they can stand you. What's more, the perpetual refusal to simply APOLOGIZE without first leading up to it with a drowning sea of "l0lz this iz y we shudnt haf to 1st tho" makes it difficult to believe in any sort of sincerity.

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You've got to stop falling back on the "z0mg don't generalize to the whole linkshell" pleas, because out of dozens of people posting here, maybe one or two have. Almost everyone has limited their criticisms to the party involved, and those poor souls who have had the courage to come here and try to defend them. I don't even hold anything against Josudes, Falk, and certainly not Tim ... I understand that they're obeying their loyalties, and in the grand scheme of what happened ... they're completely guiltless. You, Xean, and Soulstar however, very much have something to answer for.

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I've already addressed why trying to chalk this monstrous faux pas up to simple miscommunication doesn't work, as you didn't have any place making calls in the first place. Still, however, your continual insistence that XEAN didn't know about an "agreement" is very difficult to believe. I'm sure that this might've been the case with you, but Xean has flat out said (in screenshotted text) that he understood that this would be ninjalotting. His own version of his defense has him justifying his actions based on a personal distaste and distrust of Myrrh -- not the details of this particular situation.

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You need to stop begging people to let this topic die. It may be harsh to point it out, but the thread is YOUR mess to clean up. Yours, Xean's, and Soulstar's (who we have yet to hear from at all). The reason it keeps burning so strongly has a lot more to do with the fact that you simply will NOT just break down, give up, and admit fault. When you insist on keeping your posts to the same tired lines of reasoning, while refusing to accept any blame, it ignites an anger and passion in people. They want to see some sort of resolution to this -- you seem to want your last words on the topic to be "well, I don't really think we did anything wrong, and even if we did, it's not all that's bad." It shouldn't come as any surprise that people won't let you get away with that. It's a cop-out.

Fall to your knees, and surround your "I'm sorry"s with a thousand mea culpas ... not more justifications, explanations, and defenses. THAT will end this topic.
 
Congrats Myrrh. You deserved them.

Shikigami is not a NM in this game that i take likely to having someone cheated on over. I helped run Finathlon's Silmarilion LS over on diabolos. Every person respected order and each other. Having camped the NM for friends of this shell for over 6 months i can say clearly that what happened to Myrrh on the first Shiki with the ninja lotting was unacceptable. When people gather to help one person get this robe and all agree before the initial claim. I always took that as final. Don't get me wrong we had a ninja lotter in Silmarilion. But that person was dealt with severely and was removed. Even though he didn't get the robe cause we Kicked him from pt, it still was is last time ever talking with us. The people here involved in the ninja lot of the first YYR better watch them selfs if they want to redeem there image.

And to any smart ass. I don't care that its just a item, a 100kb dat file on your computer, some file on a server, a bit of data that means nothing. Its the process of that item. Community, friendships. When that is faulted by another's actions, it is the move disgraceful act in my book and the person should be punished.
 
1 - We aren't posting here anymore because its clear people have made their judgements and quite honestly, i'm tired of trying to repeat the same thing over and over only to have you guys tell me you know me better than I know myself. The majority of you are nothing to me, so I don't have to waste my time proving to you something that my family, my friends and my god already know about the kind of person I am.


Holy shit this post is full of hypocrisy.

You try to portray yourself as this good Christian girl or something, which is immediately preceeded by you calling everyone here "nothing" just because you don't know them in real life? Real Christian of you.
 
Just finished dragging my way through all 66 pages.

I'm glad that Myrrh got his YYR. Congratulations to him.

Camping Shikigami is a fairly common thing in TheFlock, since we are home to so many SMNs, so many of us can empathize with the sometimes cutthroat nature of it, the CCing, the infuriating randomness of droprates, the late night ToDs, and the resulting frustrations. However, what Soulstar did was reprehensible, and I would seriously question his application if he ever wanted to join a linkshell I am in, especially an endgame one.

But more sadly, if I'm ever looking for a social LS, I'll never consider TheBrotherhood now, which is a shame because I had heard they were a nice shell before all of this exploded. While many of the members have been standing up for Myrrh, and I applaud them, I would not be able to have confidence in Xean or Zerayla as leaders. What's truly disappointing is that they're not bothering to publicly apologize--because at this point, it's not just their relationship with Myrrh that needs to be repaired, but with the QCDN-reading Quetzy population who have en masse condemned their actions.

Though I doubt they will take it, my advice to Xean and Zerayla would be to apologize here on QCDN, profusely, earnestly, and as often as need be, and not attempt to handle this privately. It's been public for 66 pages now, so if you're serious about fixing things, then fix them. Soulstar though, I'm not sure if even dropping the YYR would remove the tarnish from his name. But then again, if we're all "nothing" to Zerayla, I'm sure none of this matters much to her. She can rest easily knowing that God, Who sees all, truly knows what lies in the depths of her heart.

Good luck with your linkshell in the future. I'm not sure how many people will be racing to join you now, but I'm sure there's always new players looking for a shell.
 
1 - We aren't posting here anymore because its clear people have made their judgements and quite honestly, i'm tired of trying to repeat the same thing over and over only to have you guys tell me you know me better than I know myself. The majority of you are nothing to me, so I don't have to waste my time proving to you something that my family, my friends and my god already know about the kind of person I am.
You aren't posting here anymore because you have a fucking higher than thou attitude and are all butt hurt because the entire QCDN community recognizes what you did was wrong. You are tired of repeating yourself over and over because you and xean both keep contradicting yourselves in wonderful things we call lies. I'm glad your family knows that you are a kind gentile person, because we sure as hell think you and/or xean should be burned on a hypocratic stake. Obviously the majority of us do matter to you, because if we didn't you wouldn't continue to post on these forums trying to make yourself look better, when obviously you never cared about myrrh's or my feelings in the first place. But hey who could blame you, you got what you wanted right? YYR for soulstar since myrrh was such a shitbag right? Well grats, you dragged your entire linkshell down a 10 story building filled w/ mud. You might not care now however with more and more of your linkshell leaving because you and xean both condone ninjalotting, you will be left with a few members and obviously a sandy vagina.

3 - Myrrh you were banned because after yesterday when myself, Xean and Soulstar made an attempt to make up for everything that happened. You're angry, so of course you're going to believe we did so to save face. But no, the first step when something bad has happened is to apologize. That was done. Second, make up for it. We tried. We were not given the opportunity. And because you want to seem to stay angry with us and not give us a chance, and because you have made mention you will never be apart of the "LS that betrayed you", I figured what purpose do you have to be in our forums anymore? Our forums are for use of the members to plan and schedule. If you need to contact them, you can do so in game or through email. You had no use of the forum anymore.
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You never once made an attempt to right this, you kept going on and on about how you as a person feel that you weren't told the entire story. And your "10 minute before gods." isn't an attempt to help myrrh, its a coy attempt to cover your ass. If you fucking cared like i did, you would have missed dynamis to help myrrh. Like me, noni, and evildeadhead. We all missed dynamis to help Myrrh obtain something THAT YOU TOLD SOULSTAR TO NINJA LOT. Let me repeat this for your obviously dense ass YOU TOLD STAR TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT HIS. I dont care if you didn't know that they agreed. You were not present at the event, YOU HAVE NO SAY IN WHO GETS THE DROP. Because guess what?... THERE WERE MORE NON TBH MEMBERS THERE THAN MEMBERS. You come get ToD on something for 3 fucking weeks, then you can talk to me about fairness. Coldhearted bitch.

4. - The topic was not deleted. It was archived. Everything is going to be archived in the case that someone requests to be able to read it. I have nothing to hide, and never have. I didn't want people dwelling on this anymore, because from the results of yesterday it was evident you no longer wanted to allow us the chance to come to any kind of a "end" to this all. So the only thing left to do now is move on. Why continue to keep discussing something that won't be resolved?
It will never be resolved, because Zerayla, you as a person dont feel you were wrong in this situation. Nor obviously does Xean, Nor does Soulstar. If you guys did, you would have made a public apology here instead of calling me and myrrh dumbasses. If you made a public apology, along w/ Xean and Soulstar i guarantee that some of us would lighten up yes. Consider you w/ the same respect? No. But i guarantee that you wouldn't be blackballed like you are now. I guarantee any desire you have to gain access to higher end game shells will be shirked now because you dont feel this situation was your fault.
5. - Jyakotsu, my initial /tells to you were a result of being told that you in particular, were outright attacking Soulstar. At that moment in time, I didn't know about the agreement and so in my mind, I was pissed that you were attacking someone who should be able to lot, considering we were all under the assumption it was a camping session for both Myrrh and Soulstar. If they seemed aggressive, sorry but then again everything you've posted here to me has been hostile and aggressive as well as the things you claim that i've called you and others, are exaggerated entirely. Either way, my "tone" when I talked to you through /tell was because I was upset at you freaking out on a member who should have been able to lot (again, not knowing about the agreement)

I am glad i was attacking soulstar, If i had the chance to see that kid... yes kid, in a dark alleyway, id be the first to punch him in the jaw for stealing hardwork that myrrh in. SOULSTAR DID 1 FUCKING DAYS WORTH OF ToD, and yes he fails for even thinking he came close to doing equal work as ANYONE THERE! No one was under the assumption that the robe was for both Myrrh and soulstar... Except for the people that shouldn't have had a say in it in the first place... IE YOU AND HITLER. I dont give a rats ass that i went off on his dumbass ninjalotting excuse for a pixel of nothingness, because he deserved every damn second of it. I dont care that you were upset because guess what? you were part of the problem. If we were allowed to Lot equally, why wasn't i allowed to lot? why wasn't about 3-4 people THAT ME AND MYRRH GATHERED ALLOWED TO LOT. Because guess what kid, we all needed it equally as much as Soulstar, WHO BTW... wasn't even of lvl to wear it. FAIL!


6. Those of you attacking LS members need to just stop. Those attacking other linkshells i'm associated, need to as well. If i'm the person you have a problem with, direct it to me but you do NOT judge other people based on who they associate with because you should be judgeing them for who they are as a person. They can still have different values, opinions, and morals and that is what you judge a person for.

I know who are the good people in your shell. Most of whom have left. Because of bullshit you just pulled. I know there are a FEW more good members left in your shell, one of whom is a RL friend of mine. He knows what you did was fucking wrong too. We talked about it. You aren't my mother, you aren't my father, you aren't someone i respect, you aren't someone i give a shit about... I think the character in survivor first season put it best.

"you are a snake Zerayla, if you were dying of thirst in a desert. I wouldn't even give you a drink of water."

Happy trails. And i hope you dont post on this thread anymore, I hope you dont post period on QCDN. Because obviously you feel no remorse.

P.S. i appologize for the late post, i again said i was away.
 
I'm getting my last jabs in, I'd love her to post a response, but since i know she wont. I'm saying what i have to say. I really hope linkshells realize that her and xean aren't ones to be trusted after events like this. Idc if they are trustworthy in the past, i dont condone ninjalotting.

And i became a bit over zealous while posting this, while i'd never see the kid IRL. Naw i'd say that what he did was a dick move and tell him to fuck off if i ever met him, Myrrh on the other hand im not so sure. But i don't associate w/ these kinda dickheads IRL, i tell them to GTF away from me. Unless they are coworkers where i have to see them everyfucking day.
 
I'm getting my last jabs in, I'd love her to post a response, but since i know she wont. I'm saying what i have to say. I really hope linkshells realize that her and xean aren't ones to be trusted after events like this. Idc if they are trustworthy in the past, i dont condone ninjalotting.

And i became a bit over zealous while posting this, while i'd never see the kid IRL. Naw i'd say that what he did was a dick move and tell him to fuck off if i ever met him, Myrrh on the other hand im not so sure. But i don't associate w/ these kinda dickheads IRL, i tell them to GTF away from me. Unless they are coworkers where i have to see them everyfucking day.
You may not condone ninjalotting, but you must condone ninjas lotting, eh?
Bah, poor attempt at a joke.
Although, even if I personally knew someone who did this, I wouldn't treat them that way IRL. Gotta keep game happenings and real life happenings separate, yaknow?
(well...except that one time, but the bitch was askin' for it, yo)
 
You may not condone ninjalotting, but you must condone ninjas lotting, eh?
Bah, poor attempt at a joke.
Although, even if I personally knew someone who did this, I wouldn't treat them that way IRL. Gotta keep game happenings and real life happenings separate, yaknow?
(well...except that one time, but the bitch was askin' for it, yo)

If a person stole my in game money and i knew them IRL i wouldn't be friends with them anymore. Similar situation, this person stole something from Myrrh that obviously wasn't his... Myrrh=my friend, why would i treat him w/ respect or even courtesy? I wont obviously. right?
 
If a person stole my in game money and i knew them IRL i wouldn't be friends with them anymore. Similar situation, this person stole something from Myrrh that obviously wasn't his... Myrrh=my friend, why would i treat him w/ respect or even courtesy? I wont obviously. right?
Maybe I'm just more forgiving than you.
Yeah, I'd be pissed that the time I put in went to nothing, but I'm not gonna let bits of code ruin a friendship I had with someone.
(except for that one bitch, she deserved it, yo)
 
Maybe I'm just more forgiving than you.
Yeah, I'd be pissed that the time I put in went to nothing, but I'm not gonna let bits of code ruin a friendship I had with someone.
(except for that one bitch, she deserved it, yo)

Friends got me back into this game, otherwise i would have been done and over with when i quit and gave away my character the first time back when i was on midgardsomr. BLM PLD RDM at your service back there.... Funny how things never change because i am BLM PLD RDM here too heh. I just know what jobs i am good at.

anyways sidetracked. Friends got me back to playing this game, and a total of 3 people have my ACC Info. If any of them took stuff that didnt belong to them IRL or IG, that would offend me. And they know that. I wouldn't wanna start a friendship off either w/ someone who did stupid shit in game either. But thats just me.
 
You aren't posting here anymore because you have a fucking higher than thou attitude and are all butt hurt because the entire QCDN community recognizes what you did was wrong. You are tired of repeating yourself over and over because you and xean both keep contradicting yourselves in wonderful things we call lies. I'm glad your family knows that you are a kind gentile person, because we sure as hell think you and/or xean should be burned on a hypocratic stake. Obviously the majority of us do matter to you, because if we didn't you wouldn't continue to post on these forums trying to make yourself look better, when obviously you never cared about myrrh's or my feelings in the first place. But hey who could blame you, you got what you wanted right? YYR for soulstar since myrrh was such a shitbag right? Well grats, you dragged your entire linkshell down a 10 story building filled w/ mud. You might not care now however with more and more of your linkshell leaving because you and xean both condone ninjalotting, you will be left with a few members and obviously a sandy vagina.



You never once made an attempt to right this, you kept going on and on about how you as a person feel that you weren't told the entire story. And your "10 minute before gods." isn't an attempt to help myrrh, its a coy attempt to cover your ass. If you fucking cared like i did, you would have missed dynamis to help myrrh. Like me, noni, and evildeadhead. We all missed dynamis to help Myrrh obtain something THAT YOU TOLD SOULSTAR TO NINJA LOT. Let me repeat this for your obviously dense ass YOU TOLD STAR TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT HIS. I dont care if you didn't know that they agreed. You were not present at the event, YOU HAVE NO SAY IN WHO GETS THE DROP. Because guess what?... THERE WERE MORE NON TBH MEMBERS THERE THAN MEMBERS. You come get ToD on something for 3 fucking weeks, then you can talk to me about fairness. Coldhearted bitch.


It will never be resolved, because Zerayla, you as a person dont feel you were wrong in this situation. Nor obviously does Xean, Nor does Soulstar. If you guys did, you would have made a public apology here instead of calling me and myrrh dumbasses. If you made a public apology, along w/ Xean and Soulstar i guarantee that some of us would lighten up yes. Consider you w/ the same respect? No. But i guarantee that you wouldn't be blackballed like you are now. I guarantee any desire you have to gain access to higher end game shells will be shirked now because you dont feel this situation was your fault.


I am glad i was attacking soulstar, If i had the chance to see that kid... yes kid, in a dark alleyway, id be the first to punch him in the jaw for stealing hardwork that myrrh in. SOULSTAR DID 1 FUCKING DAYS WORTH OF ToD, and yes he fails for even thinking he came close to doing equal work as ANYONE THERE! No one was under the assumption that the robe was for both Myrrh and soulstar... Except for the people that shouldn't have had a say in it in the first place... IE YOU AND HITLER. I dont give a rats ass that i went off on his dumbass ninjalotting excuse for a pixel of nothingness, because he deserved every damn second of it. I dont care that you were upset because guess what? you were part of the problem. If we were allowed to Lot equally, why wasn't i allowed to lot? why wasn't about 3-4 people THAT ME AND MYRRH GATHERED ALLOWED TO LOT. Because guess what kid, we all needed it equally as much as Soulstar, WHO BTW... wasn't even of lvl to wear it. FAIL!




I know who are the good people in your shell. Most of whom have left. Because of bullshit you just pulled. I know there are a FEW more good members left in your shell, one of whom is a RL friend of mine. He knows what you did was fucking wrong too. We talked about it. You aren't my mother, you aren't my father, you aren't someone i respect, you aren't someone i give a shit about... I think the character in survivor first season put it best.

"you are a snake Zerayla, if you were dying of thirst in a desert. I wouldn't even give you a drink of water."

Happy trails. And i hope you dont post on this thread anymore, I hope you dont post period on QCDN. Because obviously you feel no remorse.

P.S. i appologize for the late post, i again said i was away.
to the hitting some dude part: Dude im your friend, and i am telling you to calm down. Thats kinda...wierd err um...Obsessive?
 
to the hitting some dude part: Dude im your friend, and i am telling you to calm down. Thats kinda...wierd err um...Obsessive?

Read edit, i was really overzealous when i saw zerayla trying to make coy attempts at stupid shit again.
 
Oh my god jyak that rate up gave me two bars o.o
SOMEONE GET IT OFF!!!

LMAO MY RATE UPS ARE L33t sauce!

On this note id like to have this thread locked. 70Pages of LOLFunbashing Zerayla, Xean, Soulstar, along w/ most of TBH is enough.

Most of us realize that Zerayla is not apologetic and is just trying to cover her ass. Zerayla obviously doesn't care about feelings of others, as she plainly pointed out on page 64 or 65. Where she said we are "Nothing"

Xean Didn't even make attempts to cover his ass, he just plain out didn't give a care about how others felt. and Condoned ninja lotting

Soulstar is a puppet of Xean and Zerayla's obviously does exactly what they say, including stealing gear that is not rightfully his/hers/its.

I will be keeping my signature on for the rest of my QCDN career, so people can see exactly why i think these three people fail. Since they wont post here anymore, we can close it... Thanks mods.
 
I'd rather the thread be kept more serious that way people can read the entirety of it. I'm asking it to be closed, not because the issue was resolved(save myrrh earned another YYR). But because the Culprits obviously dont give a shit.
 
Oy, sorry this happened Myrrh...having been part of some YYR Drama myself, it truly does suck :( Congrats on your robe though hun and d(^. ^d)> to everything Wink has said. This whole thing could of been fixed up quickly with a quick "Shit man, I'm sorry - that was pretty shitty" rather than trying to bury an apology in a mountain of excuses why you're not wrong. Hope you guys can at least get to the point where you're civil with each other as harsh feelings are crappy :(
 
We no longer lock (legit) threads in the FB, even if per request of the OP.

So this could continue, or it will die out like every other thread.
 
Why?

YYR has more -blood pact timer so I would have thought that would be a lot better than +3% crit bonus for avatars unless you leave the avatars out to melee. Plus, the auto refresh would help in between summons.

Minor derail, but in the case of bloodpacts (i.e. Chaotic Strike, Eclipse Bite, Predator Claws), the 3% critical makes a massive amount of difference. The extra -2s the YYR has over Relic Body is only good if you're spamming Nether Blast or some other buff on the dot, which most of the time just isn't the case. =/

YYR is quite sexy itself, and is superior if doing the support role, but SMN Doublet is better for 65/70BPs. I'd like to get Myrrh one of these as well but that's entirely the duty of his Dynamis LS. =P
 
Oy, sorry this happened Myrrh...having been part of some YYR Drama myself, it truly does suck :( Congrats on your robe though hun and d(^. ^d)> to everything Wink has said. This whole thing could of been fixed up quickly with a quick "Shit man, I'm sorry - that was pretty shitty" rather than trying to bury an apology in a mountain of excuses why you're not wrong. Hope you guys can at least get to the point where you're civil with each other as harsh feelings are crappy :(

The sad part sabs, I am 100% certain if they said sorry. Myself and Myrrh would not have collectively agreed to make this flame.
 
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