Soulstar ninjalotted YYR from Myrrh

I don't see how its just one person's deal either. The leader of the LS told a member to screw over another member because the leader said this person couldn't be trusted. So the leader makes another one of their members into someone NO ONE will trust, I don't get that at all.
 
Oh We agreed that nights drop was mine and tomorrow was his. I put in a lot more work then him and thought I deserved first lot. I'm sorry I put in work to earn something. Maybe next time I'll just leech and nin lot.
 
Josudes said:
This is WTF I'm talking about.. bringing the LS into it.. it wasn't the whole LS. That should stay out of this.. this is about Soulstar.. and whoever else was involved not TBH. Xean was wrong.. Soul was wrong.. Why wasn't a free lot BTW? They are both in the same LS why not let them both lot? Explain this to me.
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Because it wasn't only your LS there, about 1/2 of the members were there spefically to help Myrrh, even the majority of the TBH members thought they helping Myrrh. What thread have you been reading? Are you selectively reading, or just to fucking stupid to understand?
 
And whether or not both people should be allowed to lot became irrelevent as soon as one agreed to let another person have it.

Speak up before the NM pops, or honor your word and pass when the robe drops.
 
Josudes said:
Yeah your right but if they apologized would that really change anything? I don't think so. No matter what they say everyone is going to say it is to "Save Face" or "cover their ass" so i think this is pretty much end of story.
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Naw, honestly jos. Your linkshell got a SMN w/ YYR, Soulstar obviously is laughing his way to the bank w/ it. Xean and Zerayla obviously dont feel an ounce of remorse. If you look at xean's posts, i bet he didnt lose an ounce of sleep over it. Because i know Myrrh did... (Rappa i know sleep>game) But its a basis on principle. I know Zerayla obviously didnt give a fuck about it, otherwise she wouldn't have given us the "10 minute speel."

I bet if you check in your ls forums Soulstar has posted ToD on shikigami weapon w/ something like, lets claim it for our linkshell! or something. IDK ITS A GUESS.

Your members that were responsible for this dont seem to care that their linkshell mates screwed over another former ls mate. HELL Xean and/or zerayla banned myrrh from the forums. I coulda sworn in these posts one of the two said they welcomed back myrrh if anything... I think those two have lied tooooooo many times in these posts, so often that its sickening lol.

Ya guys lost a good 4-5 members from this. I mean obviously there was no real correction being made on your end.
 
Foreword: This is just my opinion, I'm taking no sides. Just speaking my mind. :rtfm:

After reading this and following this:

All I can say now is that: It is what it is.

As far as accountablility is concerned: Sad to say but in real life or in game. The actions of leadership and members of a specific organization or group will always set the tone of their reputation (revenge and anger take no prisoners sometimes). I guess thats how you can word that :: shrug ::

I'm a Customer Service Senior. I have to make calls like this all the time. When you are in a leadership position and you have issues such as this where a member fears something of theirs (i.e. the opportunity or chance to get something beneficial) might be lost. You have to reassure that person that they will get that chance. With any issue you have to be unbiased and not partial to any side when you make a judgement call. I'm not saying a leader isnt entitled to their opinion about someone; but when it's an issue that could divide the group you have get all the facts and push your personal (biased and partial) feelings aside and make a decision that is fair for everyone (mediate).

I'm by no means telling Xean and Zer how to run their shell. This is just my full take on this situation.

It was a break down in communication that could have been avoided if Soul had given all the information. But he chose not to and now has to live with the consequences. At the same time the mudslinging (is this even the right way to spell it :: too lazy to use Spell Check ::) that occured on the defensive, just (to quote a friend) "dug your grave deeper".

It was all in bad judgement and sadly someone got hurt in the process. I'm sorry Myrrh.
 
its like fucking deja vu all over again.. for me at least. sorry myrhh, i know how shitty of a situation this must be for you.
i am not going to front and say things about or to people, since i was in no way involved. <been on both sides of the fence>

anyone who still needs a robe just send me a tell in game if i am on i will OP to ro'mauve to help, i can even bring a few FLOCKERS with me im sure.
unfortunatley i picked up a 2nd job this week and time is limited but i can do what i can when appropriate.

good luck myrhh.
 
Jos, i don't know what your arguing, your points all would've been valid on page 3, but unfortunately for you your fellow leads had to go and blow your whole argument on the next 25 pages.

And it does involve your whole LS, the leaders are the direct representation of how the shell is runned and how the shell operates within. Whether you like it or not, this will reflect on how people think about Thebrotherhood, and even more unfortunate they will have this thread to reference for fact, its beyond opinion.

The smartest thing would've been to issue a generic blanket statement and then gag order the rest of the LS, Zer tried to do this, but Xean went ahead and opened his big mouth and the flood gates were opened, filling the thread with stupid nonsensical garbage.

On top of all this, you have chat logs of your LS members laughing it up and speaking openly about how they were happy it happened. You have screenshots from your forums, that your own leaders posted.

The sanctity and integrity of that shell as a whole has been utterly and ultimately compromised, if not for your current members, then definitely for your future, which already seems to be down 4-5 members?
 
The leaders won't even post here anymore. They fucked me over, theres proof out the ass, they don't care, they deleted the thread on their forums to try and cover this up, they banned me so I can't stand up for myself on the forums.

I honestly don't care about the item. I had a whole ls fuck me over and laugh about it. That's an entires ls of trust gone in a matter of seconds.

"Oh myrrhs a loot whore, he can't be trusted" I've never done anything to have that said about me. You're a fucking idiot to believe everything without facts. Look at Gala's post. He got it right. Not Sethidumbass.

"He swears and boasts about gear, he can't be trusted" Where the fuck is the logic on that? This thread got 500+ relies in one day because they all know I was fucked over for no reason. I'm not the one who went behind someones back with a deal and nin lotted.

Oh and Xean, incase you do read this. Fuck man I was laughing so hard at how you just showed up in the zone and did nothing. You didn't say anything. Like I said. You just tried to save face. You didn't want people to think of you as a fucktard and you failed on neolink lvls.

Everythings been said a 1000 times. If you didn't trust me you should have booted me from the ls. But wait, you couldn't. If you booted me I would have gone on the ls forums and started shit there. Who knows maybe more people would have left if you had gone that route.

Oh and Zer, I loved your "I can help out for 10 mins" an hour before the window was even open. Like I said, Just tried to save face.

I haven't slept in like 30 hours, I'm still pissed off that I trusted people that I helped and thought i had their trust.

And to anyone saying I shouldn't have posted the LS chat SS, Just STFU. They posted shit from the ls Forums that had no point in this thread what so ever. If the ls was willing to toss me aside even after all the help I did I feel sorry for anyone staying in that Ls.

Actually, if Xean reads this i want him to post a better reason for not trusting me. I'm sorry but i can't believe I was hated for one fucking retarded member.

I know every things been said and done but damn it I'm still pissed at the whole event.
 
Myrrh, i think we all learned who can be trusted and who cannot
 
Xean said:
I justify my malicious actions based solely on the fact that I (and a few of my friends) personally dislike Myrrh.
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There. I think I summarized what you said pretty well; in fact, I think I struck right to the core of your words.



Understanding your motives, however, means nothing regarding whether or not your behavior was RIGHT.



You say you don't "condone" Ninja-lotting. Yet, stretched out through about 12 paragraphs surrounding that statement, you basically explain why you condoned it in "this case." It sounds to me like you DO condone ninja-lotting ... just conditionally. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. Moral absolutes tend to be dangerous, and exhibit intellectual naivete.

Come clean about it, though. More run-around only makes people wary.
 
Xeans Logic= "I don't like you...So i will shit on your childs face, rape your wife, kill your kids, cut your dick off, and steal your shit...its cool though because i don't like you"


Get ur head out of your ass. Learn to be a man and not such a blind idiot.
 
Wow, this thing is over 50 pages in one day.

But yeah, there ya go, 2 more reps ruined...no, an entire ls rep ruined. Seriously, might as well just quit the game now, or pty up with losers like Queen, or something.

Hope you dont get into any end game ls. How the heck can some people be to backstab like that.

I don't even understand how the ls can try to argue what they did is right or whatever. Fission Mailed thee bubs. Screenshots all over the place. If the fuggen nin wanted YYR, AND agreed to yet Myyrh lot, then you get Myyrh his, then you come back tomorrow to get yours, and it's not like it's a 1-3 hour window so wtf?

But ya, reps ruined over stupid stuff, cased closed.

Sorry the whole thing happend man.

-Fury's Favorite Clock
 
Well Not to be mean or anything, however since Xean and Zerayla obviously have no remorse in this

They are in the End game linkshell Keitaro Aeon. Be careful KA, i have alot of friends in your shell. Be careful because these two might ninja lot End game gear from you. They obviously didnt care back then why would they care w/ your shell as well? I look out for my friends, and KANCHOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
meeze said:
Because it wasn't only your LS there, about 1/2 of the members were there spefically to help Myrrh, even the majority of the TBH members thought they helping Myrrh. What thread have you been reading? Are you selectively reading, or just to fucking stupid to understand?
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Ya Meeze I'm just too fucking stupid to understand why two members of the same LS had to pick someone to get it first when everyone was supposedly saying they were going to camp it again the next night.
 
Josudes said:
Ya Meeze I'm just too fucking stupid to understand why two members of the same LS had to pick someone to get it first when everyone was supposedly saying they were going to camp it again the next night.
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Jos, if we are going to go down this path again. You realize that i camped this almost equal amount of time as myrrh right? You realize that i need this robe, probably almost as much as myrrh does right? Why didnt i lot? Because the entire alliance was in agreement that it was myrrhs. And we did camp it the next night. Interesting how your linkshell leaders, both didn't assist and didnt give a flying fuck to help the person they screwed over. My entire fuggin linkshell was there, along w/ my and myrrh's friends. There were only 2 people from your linkshell that had the balls to try to make amends. Ones name was Kagemusha, who did nothing wrong. The other was that Cor/rng elvaan guy that was awesome, name starts w/ an S, who appologized several times, and basically said he fucked up bigtime/as well as your shell. He admitted your shell made an error, why cant you understand that.
 
Josudes said:
Ya Meeze I'm just too fucking stupid to understand why two members of the same LS had to pick someone to get it first when everyone was supposedly saying they were going to camp it again the next night.
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it seems you DON'T understand, IT WASN'T A BROTHERHOOD EVENT, YOUR LEADERS HAD NO RIGHT TO GIVE OUT ITEMS 2+2=4 fuck'
 
jyakotsu said:
Jos, if we are going to go down this path again. You realize that i camped this almost equal amount of time as myrrh right? You realize that i need this robe, probably almost as much as myrrh does right? Why didnt i lot? Because the entire alliance was in agreement that it was myrrhs. And we did camp it the next night. Interesting how your linkshell leaders, both didn't assist and didnt give a flying fuck to help the person they screwed over. My entire fuggin linkshell was there, along w/ my and myrrh's friends. There were only 2 people from your linkshell that had the balls to try to make amends. Ones name was Kagemusha, who did nothing wrong. The other was that Cor/rng elvaan guy that was awesome, name starts w/ an S, who appologized several times, and basically said he fucked up bigtime/as well as your shell. He admitted your shell made an error, why cant you understand that.
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Bolded for emphasis.

If you agree on something, you usually go with it. It doesn't matter if they're in the same linkshell, it doesn't matter if they're friends or not.

Soulstar couldn't even use the Robe anyway. Greedy much?
 
*edit* excuse me, Zerayla had the audacity to say paraphrased "Take it or leave it i have 10 minutes before gods." almost an hour before the shikigami weapon.

Xean sat there w/ his thumb up his ass waiting in hall of gods so he could sprint to Ruavita to pop ulli or w/e Keitaro aeon was doing, he never said word one to us.

Soulstar was there to get ToD.

You tell me how you guys really helped us.
 
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