Taray, Darkfat, Minimage, Sirivalin

Karihkinz said:
Ronith if your going to be biased and not look at the whole situation then remove the sig I made you out of pure niceness. Taray is a girl name IMO and Aly never saw the character model. OMFG He called him a girl, whatever thats not the point of the flame, get over it. Secondly, he is the only one here arguing and keeping it up, so he gets the blunt end of it, his LS, his problem. And he provoked much of this. You werent there, so just because he is your friend doesnt mean he could never possibly do ANYTHING wrong. Simple as that. Throw Darkfat at us <3

What are you and Aly doing when he says anything back?

Think about it...

And rephrase what you said
 
Kari, you gotta be shitting me girl. Youre pretty smart, and you expect people to take responcibility for their actions and actions of their linkshell members? You crazy crazy girl you. :lol:

Great guy blah blah blah. His actions speak louder than his words. :roll:
 
^^ I'm a girl. And I'm sorry that I dont let people walk all over, abuse, harrass, mistreat, or bash my LS. I expected that his friends would of course come and stick up for him, sure thats fine. And I'm sure that to some people he is a great guy. His help was not refused, they waited till Langly was near by to open it, just to be rude.

Put yourself in this situation. If a party had just been horribly rude about a coffer, laughed at your dead body, slapping you every time you ran by, and was stationing people at almost every coffer point, would YOU be paranoid about them all of a sudden turning over a new leaf and saying "Hey Person-we-keep-taking-coffers-from, join our pt"?

The only thing we refused to do was allow Langly to join thier party, which we did in now ill manner. It is very simple in a small area like that to tell a POS. As for Taray, while in my opinoin, he isnt acting like a very good LS leader, he could very well be a nice guy. (I wonder how 20 some odd people sending me tells and qcdn messages could all be lying but... thats beyond the point.)

The point of the flame was to warn people about thier actions, and rant a bit yea. Only thing that is keeping it going is A. Lying back in responses giving us more opportunites to pull out the facts and B. People who are thier friends coming just to pick at every little point in time in which this all happened, only to be told the entire story again, because most dont read the full posts. You, Scrumpy, are not one of them, and I have nothing against you ^^ I was merely answering your questions.
 
Falsey said:
Kari, you gotta be shitting me girl. Youre pretty smart, and you expect people to take responcibility for their actions and actions of their linkshell members? You crazy crazy girl you. :lol:

Great guy blah blah blah. His actions speak louder than his words. :roll:

Silly me growing up with morals. I take responsibility for my LS mates. Even if I'm not at fault, if they do something as a LS, it becomes my responsibility if crap flies. ^^;
 
Dunno I was too busy getting slapped and harrased by his LS, just for standing near a possible spawn point. Someone else would have to answer that question for you. ^^
 
The actions of a linkshell are always reflected back to the leader. If people in the linkshell are acting out and the leader keeps them, it just shows that the leader accepts those actions and approves them to himself.

Just, sayin'. . .
 
Darkdante said:
Gilseller or not. Winndie is one of the nicest people i've played with.

Winddie is not a gilseller. he is in my LS, just to clarify, Along with Beng,Minkiky, minjazz and Avrily. NOT gilsellers^^
 
The all seeing eye

Ok so people won't misunderstand i am aprt of Taray's LS, he is a great guy and so is darkfat, i have read almost all the pecies in this thread and it is extremly repetitive. 1st all you guys have been arguing about is "we didn't MPK and he took our coffer" did you ever think that some people get as frustrated as you is some situations or how long other people have been there or what they are hunting and killing mobs for, if you ask me you are just as greedy as the people you accuse, go around claiming things that are really open game for everyone, and then prosecuting someone who also wanted the coffer, how many map coffers have you guys aquired over the past, the truth is people hunt this stuff everyday and everyday it happens to another person who is looking for a coffer i had to solo all my coffers and someone popping in and grabing them before you is a very common thing, and your problem with the "MPK" instead of responding to an angry shout or tell the "polite"(which was a extremly misused word in this thread) thing to do would be handle it in a non aggresive manner. One thing i have learnd is not to train mobs instead just let them kill you on the spot and have a blm and whm tractor and raise you, THAT is a "POLITE" thing to do, if you really want to question the integrity of others the "polite" thing to do is to examine yourself and see how you handled a situation instead of blaming your misfortunes on others
 
Ok so people won't misunderstand i am aprt of Taray's LS, he is a great guy and so is darkfat, i have read almost all the pecies in this thread and it is extremly repetitive. 1st all you guys have been arguing about is "we didn't MPK and he took our coffer" did you ever think that some people get as frustrated as you is some situations or how long other people have been there or what they are hunting and killing mobs for, if you ask me you are just as greedy as the people you accuse, go around claiming things that are really open game for everyone, and then prosecuting someone who also wanted the coffer, how many map coffers have you guys aquired over the past, the truth is people hunt this stuff everyday and everyday it happens to another person who is looking for a coffer i had to solo all my coffers and someone popping in and grabing them before you is a very common thing, and your problem with the "MPK" instead of responding to an angry shout or tell the "polite"(which was a extremly misused word in this thread) thing to do would be handle it in a non aggresive manner. One thing i have learnd is not to train mobs instead just let them kill you on the spot and have a blm and whm tractor and raise you, THAT is a "POLITE" thing to do, if you really want to question the integrity of others the "polite" thing to do is to examine yourself and see how you handled a situation instead of blaming your misfortunes on others

Well you must have missed the part where they explained that the mob killed Alyada and since Langly had done some damage to it, it still had him on his hate list causing it to run across the zone linking all of the other so called "trained mobs" on the way.

The 'mpk' thing was an accident.

Learn to read.
 
Arkangel

You weren't there. Or you pulled a Batman and weren't visible.
 
http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=14187&highlight=coffer

Coffer =! No one's. Coffer=Whoever opens it

Live with it. I had people open coffers I needed right infront of my character when I was a 52 DRG using powders and oils to find my coffers. Go find another. They do respawn.


I personally know Taray, and have known him for a while now in the game, back since I was in CN with my ninja, and that was a long time ago. Unless there is something that will provoke him into doing something like taking a coffer, which isn't anyones, he won't do it. If someone was running towards me, a name I don't know, in an area highly overrun with gilsellers, I would be suspicious of gilsellers too. I know who most of the gilsellers are, so I probably wouldn't have that issue, but to someone who is being approached by 10+ Sahagin has every right to suspecting an MPK. But in no way does that such event give you the right to lay claim over a coffer. Free territory no matter what way you look at it.

Courtesy is not something that happens much in this game. I'm not so sure it should anymore.
 
Zhaoyun said:
Ok so people won't misunderstand i am aprt of Taray's LS, he is a great guy and so is darkfat, i have read almost all the pecies in this thread and it is extremly repetitive. 1st all you guys have been arguing about is "we didn't MPK and he took our coffer" did you ever think that some people get as frustrated as you is some situations or how long other people have been there or what they are hunting and killing mobs for, if you ask me you are just as greedy as the people you accuse, go around claiming things that are really open game for everyone, and then prosecuting someone who also wanted the coffer, how many map coffers have you guys aquired over the past, the truth is people hunt this stuff everyday and everyday it happens to another person who is looking for a coffer i had to solo all my coffers and someone popping in and grabing them before you is a very common thing, and your problem with the "MPK" instead of responding to an angry shout or tell the "polite"(which was a extremly misused word in this thread) thing to do would be handle it in a non aggresive manner. One thing i have learnd is not to train mobs instead just let them kill you on the spot and have a blm and whm tractor and raise you, THAT is a "POLITE" thing to do, if you really want to question the integrity of others the "polite" thing to do is to examine yourself and see how you handled a situation instead of blaming your misfortunes on others

Well you must have missed the part where they explained that the mob killed Alyada and since Langly had done some damage to it, it still had him on his hate list causing it to run across the zone linking all of the other so called "trained mobs" on the way.

The 'mpk' thing was an accident.

Learn to read.


maybe i should have stated putting words or phrazes in "quotes" is a way to express sarcasim, meaning - i know it wasen't a MPK hint the quotes, and the way you put my quote in bold is a "GREAT"(odvious sarcasim)way to express your hatred, lashing out at other ppl and taking the game seriously.
 
Thanks guys for sticking up for us but. My ls had nothing to do with what i did. and yes i stoal the **** out of your coffer and i would do it again. so get bent. and go cry some where else.
 
Thanks guys for sticking up for us but. My ls had nothing to do with what i did. and yes i stoal the **** out of your coffer and i would do it again. so get bent. and go cry some where else.

Case in Point. Were you denied a nipple as a child?
 
A few things I've learned from reading this thread:

1) Taray's LS needs to learn how to write. If you're going to defend yourself, at least use grammar and punctuation, for everyone's sake.

2) Lanien has a point, and then again, he really doesn't. If a level 50-something has a train behind him in SSG, do you really think he's trying to MPK? I suppose it could be done, with Utsusemi Ni and all, but that's still pretty iffy. I'd say he's more just running for his life. You could also make the argument that Taray and Darkfat, etc. didn't see his level. Well if they didn't see his level, and his equipment, wouldn't the argument that Langly didn't see the party also be valid?
Coffers belong to whoever open them. Yeah, that's pretty true. Any one of those gilsellers that walked away could've opened it. It's fair game. Where the flame part really comes in is where they opened a coffer after inviting him. There's no need for that. It could have been opened without the need to be an asshole about it. There's really no need for that kinda stuff. Do you donate almost enough money to a homeless person for something to eat, but not quite, and then eat lunch in front of him? (yes that's an extreme example, but the behavior fits)
This could have easily been handled differently, and definitely in a more mature and understanding manner.

And my own little rant. For the past 3-4 days (and some of you have probably seen this), I've been trying to get my G1 and Ranger Artifact Hat quests done. Shouting in Jeuno, asking for help, that sort of thing (without mention of a reward). For all this time, only 3 people have answered. One wasn't applicable. Redoxide (taking a bard test in Castle Oztroja, offered to let me have a coffer key, as you may or may not know, the RNG AF quest in Oztroja isn't a coffer, but he still offered), Valandil (who helped me get my AF hat quest started in Eldieme, and killed a few liches, no paper drop), and Ugotjacked (asked if anyone needed help, assembled a party for going through gates, and getting my coal, thanks also to Tsulaa and Sepheroth). Another one did answer, and asked if I'd pay 300k if he did my hat quest (fully), and all of G1. I refused it. I'd rather reward someone for their kindness and generousity, than hire someone for their greed. And if you're someone that isn't going to help without something in it for you, are you really the kind of person I want in a party?

Maybe some gilsellers aren't so much concerned with their own characters, and don't mind helping out their customers (I'm sure those behind the characters don't know, and don't care who gets the gil they make), rather than being so concerned with their own wealth.

The not being able to open coffers while you're weakened makes some degree of sense too. So you don't just continue dying along the way just to get to a coffer, and have a high level person raise you, or just training to the coffer, getting a raise, and opening it before you get killed again. Just a measure to make sure someone has to do the work to get you there. (or themselves there, if they're high enough)

Really, the accusation of trying to MPK, up to that point, I'm sure was just a big misunderstanding. Teasing the guy with the coffer, that's just being a dick. That's going above and beyond, to be a gigantic ass. Regardless of any claims of these people being nice, they certainly weren't in the situation.
 
darkfat said:
Thanks guys for sticking up for us but. My ls had nothing to do with what i did. and yes i stoal the **** out of your coffer and i would do it again. so get bent. and go cry some where else.

Thanks for proving everything we just said Darkfat.
 
Alyada said:
While I know not one person can claim a coffer for their own, and it is fair game, my personal opinion of this is that it was very rude. If I were in his shoes I would've walked away, opting for someone who works hard for their AF the ability to get their AF, instead of filling my own selfish desires..

Just to throw that at ya Lanien (I personally think your a cool guy, friends will over take friends side, so anyone who came to defend them without knowing the facts, I bear no ill feelings towards ^^) We werent saying it was OURS but people taking it for gil/map over AF IS RUDE, and you have to include in THE MANNER in which it was done.

Anyway, yes this thread is getting very very repeadative. Why is it getting repeadative? Go back and read. Its because so many of the people responding are jumping to accusations without READING ALL OF THE POSTS. So -then- we have to go back and restate everything, qoute things, bold things, etc etc. So before yet another person goes and states that this is being dragged out (because trust me, Cap'n Obvious, we know) just dont.

This flame is done. Why? Take a gander at all the replies from the people which this topic entitles. Especially Darkfat. I have no idea why I even bothered going into specifics against him, he did a better job at flaming himself then I could of ever tried to do. As Langly said, Case and Point!

You can either keep bringing every one of your "homies" and continue to make yourself and your LS look dumber by the post, or stop. Our point was proven, I've talked myself blue in the face with the facts. I, personally, am getting kind of sick of this because its going no where. Its we tell the story > they type some BS post > we point out the BS in it > friend of thiers says something > we tell the story > rinse and repeat! I'm no longer flaming any of you, your doing it to yourself now. <3<3<3
 
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