Thanks for staying batshit insane, Nintendo.

[Sabia]

like i said, nintendo/microsoft makes the console for their limited selection of games, sony makes them for everyone.

I fixed your quote.

 

[Mokk]

I dont see how the size of anybodies penis has to do with any of this.

Obviously you've missed the fanboys going ape conparing their consoles to the revolution and making examples of mario, halo, etc.

oi..

I find it amazing that people get as snotty with each other about their consoles of choice as they do religion, politics, etc. This thread and the millions like it all over the internet only confirm for me that the new religion is media and the human mind is as shallow and change fearing as ever.

Edit: just cos i'm an xbox geek and i feel like bringing this up ... Halo blows donkies for nickels, you halo fanboys need to go pick up a real shooter like timesplitters

 

[xena]

Yeah i guess i did miss i didnt read any other posts before the one i made so ok. And btw halo 1 was the greatest thing ever...halo 2 sucked though the only reason people play that is so they can pretend that its halo 1 online.

 

[chpal]

greatest thing ever! hell no!
Sonic the Hedhoge 2 was the greatest thing ever

 

[Dirgesong]

i may be becoming one, but nintendo has historically had a higher nerd/non-nerd ratio. and that is because their games don't appeal to most people outside of the nerd community.

like i said, nintendo makes the console for their limited selection of games, sony/microsoft make them for everyone.

Actually Sony's 1st party offerings are slim . . . 3rd party support they have lots of.

Sony makes good games yes, but they're few and far between . . .

oh and they're definately not for everyone . . . is some dude's little sister going to get a kick out of the sexin up bonus game in God of War . . . doubtful . . .

is your average jo-blow going to fiend on Ico?? again dubious . . .

what about Wild Arms . . . hell some RPGers don't have that kind of time to waste . . .

I would actually argue your shit is backwards my friend . . . Nintendo makes games everyone can enjoy . . . You're just to afraid of being a nerd to give it a try.

And about not being a nerd . . . well . . . I think the fact you're arguing video games speaks volumes to that . . .

So, you're happy with games getting prettier . . . with more polygons and pixel shading and woops . . . getting to nerdy . . . You like that shit off the hook looking pimped?!

I want my video games to really impress me with something new . . .

and fancy rendering can only go so far . . . I want games with artistic merit . . . not GTA:Rehash of last year's GTA . . .

But then again . . . looking to games for artistic merit is pretty nerdy . . .

I guess I'm okay with that though . . .


*edited for including a longer rant . . . well a chunk of it

 

[xena]

I willingly state that I am a nerd i suggest the rest of you do also.

 

[Dirgesong]

<excitement>

By the way, has anyone actually seen the video for the Nintendo DS controller, rather than the picture? Probably not, so check it out here to see how cool the Revolution will be. Coupled with that controller, this system is gonna rock. Hmmm... Samurai game. Save the best for last!

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334p1.html

Just click on the Japanese guy at the bottom. XD

</excitement>

I think Nintendo should hire Sabia for product testing on this one . . .

because when something competetive comes out . . .

That controller looks like a little mace of some kind and I think that they should be sure it'll be able to bludgeon a prarie bear and still remain functional . . .

because I know it's gonna happen

 

[Sabia]

I'm a huge friggin nerd...I've clocked over 100 days on an online video game, makes me laugh when people on this board accuse others of being nerds.

PS I like the fact Revolution went white, I love white systems

 

[xena]

I'm a huge friggin nerd...I've clocked over 100 days on an online video game, makes me laugh when people on this board accuse others of being nerds.

PS I like the fact Revolution went white, I love white systems

racist...

 

[Skiewalker]

PS I like the fact Revolution went white, I love white systems

Actually I think it's gonna be multiple colors.

But yeah. White systems rocks. <pets my white Sega Saturn>

 

[Bajaratt]

like i said, nintendo makes the console for their limited selection of games, sony/microsoft make them for everyone.

Actually, nintendo makes games for everyone. They are the only console still making a decent number of games that aren't M or even T. Microsoft passed on Psychonauts because it wasn't mature enough, despite that the game was awesome. Nintendo makes games that everyone can play, but that in no way makes them bad games.

You are right that the game cube has a short list of games, but game cube also seems to have a better good:bad ratio of games than the other consoles. My game cube games get a lot more play time than any other game I own, save XI. With PS2 games(Don't own or even want an xbox), I buy/rent/borrow it, play it, beat it, sell/return it, because there's no reason to keep them around. My gamecube games, however, I keep around because they're great to play with other people.

I also fail to see how Nintendo is going to isolate every other 3rd party game developer with this controller. No one says that all games have to use every feature of the controller, so the company's making the games can do whatever they want. The controller might shy away some companies from making games, but others might like the idea. The only thing to do is to wait and see, not damn them to the bottom rung because you don't like something that you've never even tried.

 

[meeze]

diresong. what i wrote was they make consoles for everyone.

that is to say that there are a large number of third party developers that have their own way looking of video games. that variety allows for a more diverse library for people to choose from.

whereas nintendo has total control of what shows up and the direction in which the games go.

and baj, there is a higher percentage of non M or T on the nintendo console, but i'm willing to bet there is a larger number that show up on ps2.

and again, i'm not talking about the games these companies develop in house, i'm talking about the variety of games available for each console.

i enjoy some games that no one has even has, no matter how many houses i go to. with nintendo owners, they have the same games as the nintendo owner next to them.

you can find similar type games from nintendo on ps2. ps2 covers nintendo. nintendo genre of games do not cover the genre of games ps2 has. the depth of roster is not there for nintendo, there are 4-5 games in each genre that you can choose from on ps2 and they all are different enough that you can fine tune what you are looking for.

 

[Mokk]

I think that's kinda the point .. i'd bet if you asked a sony exec why they put out so many games they'd say "because we need to sell consoles"

Whereas i'd wager if you asked a nintendo exec why they put out a specific list of titles, while they may be rehashes or "family" oriented titles you'd most likely get "because we can afford to, we know who our base is."

Sony and microsoft target the 19 yr old demographic (no, i'm not making up bullshit, i just saw both of them cop to it on G4) Nintendo markets to gamers, they've had more practice at it.

 

[Elemmire]

gee carth.. way to be posting completely nothing that has anything to do with any of this conversation. It's the same damn Nintendo fanboys/girls that come and defend it.

Sabia, Dirgesong, Swishee and Carth

It's true what Meeze is saying and you all know it. Nintendo continues to make the same games over and over again with no real new characters or story or even music. Zelda hasn't changed much since Nintendo. Same with Mario. And they make hundreds of shitty spin offs like "Mario Party #, Mario Tennis #, Mario Baseball" (the # means a number of coarse representing the sequel or "original")

PS2, though it also has games with more and more additions to the series like FF, Suikoden, Wild Arms, Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto, Star Ocean, etc, always the games have NEW CHARACTERS an over all NEW plot or if it's a sequal like Suikoden or Metal Gear Solid it continues developing the story and the world of those games. Then they have various good racing games like Need For Speed. Now those games I never do like cause there spin offs aren't anything more than new tracks, some different cars, and different graphis with maybe new music. Then PS2 also has great first person shooters like Deus Ex (X-Box has it too), Call of Duty (also across many systems), Socom, etc. The PS2 has far more games to its name and many many many more good ones. FF might be up to the 12th now with others but EVERY FF is different. Every FF has new characters, new worlds, new music (other than 1 or 2 tracks), new graphics and a fairly new gameplay. The only thing really the same are a few names in it... that's it. PS2 also has AMAZING original games like Disgaea, Phantom Brave, Xenogears/Xenosaga(not so much Saga since it's more a movie >.>).

X-Box, I find, isn't all that great in terms of games. They are similar to Nintendo in the sense they have a few good games that are only for its system. But they atleast try to get more games of more variety than Nintendo. Nintendo might have FPS, Racing, Sports, RPG, etc.. but they all seem to be spin offs of some other game. Like the sports games all seem to be mario: sport. I don't find Nintendo worth the money to buy. Rather just play at the store or use a friend's system who was too foolish to get it. Many of the good games that Nintendo seems to have that aren't Mario or Zelda.. were on SEGA first. Like the Tale games. Tales of Symphonia (or one of them) was on the Dreamcast before anything else. So we can't count that as Nintendo only really.

Nintendo tends to reuse Zelda and Mario beyond all belief to bring sales up and keep people happy. The rest of the games they have can be found on other systems. PS2 has far more original games that are better (Suikoden, MGS.. that does come to PS2 first, GTA.. also comes to PS2 first, FF, Wild Arms, Xenosaga, etc). X-Box just has Halo really and then gets games that came for PS2 a bit later.

And why do you not like to realize the facts of sales status? Outside of Japan.. Nintendo gets pwned by Sony and Microsoft.. guess why? Because sony and x-box (atleast sony) have a more variety of games.

 

[ThisIsHamburgler]

If thinking Nintendo cares about you makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside, good for you... but they are a company just like the others. They care about making money... Thats all.

-Ham :shock:

 

[Antor]

Sony markets the 15-35 year-old market, if I recall correctly. Microsoft aims more for just 'mature,' gamers - but that doesn't matter, XBox has a very crappy selection of games as it is.

And, um, I don't think you're taking into account that Sony and Microsoft market much more outside of video games. They have more money to waste than you think (hell, just look at the XBox in Japan).

 

[Elemmire]

If thinking Nintendo cares about you makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside, good for you... but they are a company just like the others. They care about making money... Thats all.

-Ham :shock:

let's all listen to this, my nintendo fanboy/girl friends ^^ CAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH!! D:

 

[Mokk]

The point i was trying to make is sony and microsoft market to demographics ... nintendo markets to nintendo players, where's the crime in that?

Furthermore who gives a shit about titles on the whole xbox v ps2 argument they share something like 70% (or better, just a guess) of their titles with the xbox coming out on top for rendering, just sounds to me like people are ranting and bitching cos they like to play favorites.

Personally i've got all 3 and couldn't be happier, eventually i'll have all the next gens too .. once they work out the bugs and the price drops .. why get pissy about the failings of one console over another when you can both love and hate all 3 objectively?

 

[Antor]

Furthermore who gives a shit about titles on the whole xbox v ps2 argument they share something like 70% (or better, just a guess) of their titles with the xbox coming out on top for rendering, just sounds to me like people are ranting and bitching cos they like to play favorites.

I was speaking more or less on exclusive games, but if you want to play that game, I generally buy any game that happens to be released for multiple consoles on my XBox.

Personally i've got all 3 and couldn't be happier, eventually i'll have all the next gens too .. once they work out the bugs and the price drops .. why get pissy about the failings of one console over another when you can both love and hate all 3 objectively?

I own all three but still find more joy in playing my SNES. I also own a Nintendo DS and Sony PSP, and I couldn't be any less satisfied with the DS. The only game coming out for it any time soon that I even like is Animal Crossing. I tried playing Advanced Wars, a game I was looking forward to, and was sadly disappointed.

The Revolution looks stupid, and if you end up having to pay to download games for it, I won't be getting one any time soon. The XBox360 looks alright, but the game selection seems fairly limitted - I'll wait a while before picking one up. Seeing as how I don't own an HDTV, I probably won't pick up a PS3 as quick as I want to, but aside from my SNES collection, my PS2 and PS collection is very large - meaning I might just sell my PS2 and get a PS3 right away.

 

[Skaw]

Oh, yeah, that's why the PSP is outselling the DS on a month to month basis outside of Japan?

Maybe because... the people that already have a DS are finally getting around to getting a PSP?

That'd be like saying "Yeah, the PSP is outselling the GBA!"

Yeah.. exactly who doesn't have atleast one incarnation of the GBA?

Zelda, Mario... :roll:

and I love how you throw that picture around, Dirgesong because people are "sheep" because they don't like the Nintendo systems or how Nintendo does things?

By the way.. I believe the only reason they changed the PS3's controller from the PS2 was because of some lawsuit someone had claiming that sony stole their controller design (this is something I heard.. not sure if it's fact).

All these Nintendo fanboys/girls are sure set on thinking Nintendo is god despite the lack of good games it has to back it up (Note: the fact I say it lacks good games is my own opinion about the games it has. Anyways, how could it possibly have any good games since so many are just spin offs, repeats of the same character, music, world, and virtually the same story.)

Go back to playing your 10 Final Fantasy games that are exactly the same since day one kekekekeke. ^^ X-2 was different, I'll give it that. But well, look how great it did from breaking out of the monotony. :?

Never post in a thread about games calling people fanboys, when you've proven yourself to be the biggest hypocritical fan of them all, anymore.

The only two main Zelda games that can be considered the same are the first, and A Link to the Past. Every other one has done something different with the gameplay. Legend of Zelda II had side-scrolling Dungeons. Ocarina of Time broke into 3-D environments, and Wind Waker wasn't even in Hyrule, as well as changed transportation.

PS2, though it also has games with more and more additions to the series like FF, Suikoden, Wild Arms, Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto, Star Ocean, etc, always the games have NEW CHARACTERS an over all NEW plot or if it's a sequal like Suikoden or Metal Gear Solid it continues developing the story and the world of those games. Then they have various good racing games like Need For Speed. Now those games I never do like cause there spin offs aren't anything more than new tracks, some different cars, and different graphis with maybe new music. Then PS2 also has great first person shooters like Deus Ex (X-Box has it too), Call of Duty (also across many systems), Socom, etc. The PS2 has far more games to its name and many many many more good ones. FF might be up to the 12th now with others but EVERY FF is different. Every FF has new characters, new worlds, new music (other than 1 or 2 tracks), new graphics and a fairly new gameplay. The only thing really the same are a few names in it... that's it. PS2 also has AMAZING original games like Disgaea, Phantom Brave, Xenogears/Xenosaga(not so much Saga since it's more a movie >.>).

What exactly aren't you getting? Every FF is the same. Characters and Story, regardless of change, if the system is the same(and it has been for 20 years,) it's still the same game. Thats why I like 11. It's entirely different. Story, Characters, Battle System.

If Characters and Story where majority of the Final Fantasy games points, i'd agree. But they aren't. The Gameplay is the same as it has been since 1. It relies solely on the battle and world systems, which has remained fairly untouched for two decades.

Nintendo tends to reuse Zelda and Mario beyond all belief to bring sales up and keep people happy.

And unlike Final Fantasy, the characters remain the same, but the overall gameplay is entirely different. You lose.

And why do you not like to realize the facts of sales status? Outside of Japan.. Nintendo gets pwned by Sony and Microsoft.. guess why? Because sony and x-box (atleast sony) have a more variety of games.

More doesn't necessarily mean great. 150 titles with 10 good titles, is still the same as 30 titles with 10 good titles.

You're the biggest fanboy in this thread, Elemmire. And also the most blind by your preference.

This is what really gets me:

...failure of the N64...

Um, what?

Not failure in the sense that it was bad, just that it didn't do what Nintendo wanted it to do: cut Sony out of the market.