Stouter said:
Yeah system was everyone had a primary job they were stuck with forever, and we had several pld and rdm primaries. For cities the system went Original Member primary > 1st recruitment primary > 2nd recruitment primary > 3rd recruitment primary > secondary > overflow. For northlands it was attendance based primary > secondary > overflow.
The only reason people were stuck on primaries is because we couldn't get particular drops for those jobs. Certain jobs, most specifically RDM, just wouldn't drop no matter how many times we did the zone. Worse yet, AF for other jobs would drop multiple times in a zone and not once for any other. We could get 3 DRG or 2 NIN to drop in one zone, but the really sought after jobs just seemed to never drop. That's not a failing of a shell though, that's SE and not even a system change or shell change fixes drop rates. The same people are going to have to compete for the same drop and now attendance and membership have been thrown out so anyone can lot it as they please.
Azania said:
Idk Lavi I like ya and think your cool but, You have been really cool with alot of the members including some of the new members of Encore. I know your a little ticked, ok... major ticked about lotting being changed because you really feel like you have wasted your time. However, You know what a rare drop AF2 especially Whm Body is. But in all honesty I think you earned enough respect among the whm who where there that if you had spoken to them like an adult instead of comming on here making it sound like your cry about only being 4/5 on whm AF2, How all your hard work for TDS has gone flat down the tubes, knowing full blown well this is the flameboard and they are going to come on here and tar and feather you, because instead of just leaving it at how upset you are with TDS and Encores new rules you throw other things into the fire. I haven't really known Myi that long and what not but I highly doubt he was out to fuck you over in the shell because from what I saw, you were the #1 whm. That day Toboe got Whm AF2 you Choose to pass. Yes it may have been out of the kindness of your heart but even Toboe thought it was yours. The game is about the choices you make. and had you chooose to lot what you had "Earned" according to you, this flame would not even be in question because i'm sure you would still be running with Encore, and finding something else to lot with the new runs because you would be 5/5. So in the respect the rules would play in your favor. But because they did not, ... :nono: I really think this could have all been worked out among friends and fam, But I think 18 pages later, it be a lost cause.
I don't honestly know who you are, do you perhaps have a different name in game?
Once TDS broke, I lost all chances at ever attaining the briault. There is no way I could have won it and there is no way ten players were going to pass it up to me. The rarity of me passing up the item was more than a shock to everyone in the shell, I somehow don't think the people saw any merit in it either. They probably just thought I was a fool.
As for eleven wasted months, people seem to get the wrong idea. They think that by getting AF and 100cs during the eleven months, it wasn't wasted. You're more than welcome to think like that, but in order for me to get back to where I stood as the shell broke, I need to spend at the very least another 11 months working on attendance and helping another shell. That's if I am lucky, I will have to start at the very bottom of an already established shell and with TDS, I started at the very top (or bottom) equal to everyone else. Now, I have to work my way up which arguably could take longer. So either, I wasted eleven months now or eleven months later, it's still the same.
It's been said multiple times that I could have joined Encore, I was even invited to do so. But honestly, how can I do that? This is the group which was supposed to look out for me and didn't. This is the same leadership which was supposed to make TDS work and didn't. How am I supposed to have faith in leadership when they are willing to let a shell just break. It's not as if they tried to do anything, in six months they watched it crumble when everyone knew there was a problem. I could put my faith in getting lucky, but I don't particularly enjoy gambling with my time. I don't believe in their system; I, instead, think it's vastly flawed.
As for the greedy comments about old members, I didn't mean to point it at everyone as I did, I was angry when I posted, but now, I am not so sure I was wrong. I look back at Cmdr's comments and I wonder. He posted to the extent that he was happy in the new shell because he can finally lot more often. Is lotting really that important? Is getting gear all that people really cared about? Apparently, yes. He can talk all he wants about how he chose poor words or said the wrong things, but he said what he said and meant it. It was more important for him to be able to lot. Maybe I am not so different, but the way I see it, at least I earned my chance at the briault through attendance and long term membership only to lose it because people wanted to be able to lot now instead of working for it.
