The Princess Complex

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It's Magic Points. It's always been Magic Points, and always will be Magic Points.

I have to say that people calling it mana has always been a pet peeve of mine too. There are also no such thing as Elves in FFXI, they are Elvaan and are pretty much the polar opposite of how elves are portrayed in other games/books/movies besides the obvious pointy ears. You don't hear people calling tarutaru hobbits because they aren't. I can't think of anything where elves were gorilla armed brutes with high strength, bottom of the barrel agility, dexterity, and intelligence. Oh and elves aren't ugly.

As far as the answer to the OP's question of why there are so many mages that act like that, it's pretty simple. Because people let them do it. There's a double standard with mages because they are "needed" but in reality what you need is competent ones not ones that don't do their job and just leech a slot in your party.

Even the gimpiest of melee can actually contribute something to the party so he's not a total waste of the slot by simply engaging the mobs. His damage and accuracy may be craptastic but it's alot different if say he only engaged two out of ten mobs you were fighting. Any reasonable leader would boot someone for sure that did that but they let crappy mages get away with doing virtually the same thing all the time by not doing what they got invited to do. If people refused to party with them then it wouldn't be an issue but that's not going to happen, ever. There are too many, "sum xp is bettar thn no xp" types who will gladly invite them just so they can fill slots and even more that will crawl along at 3k/hour for three hours and not say a word about it til the party is over when they then decide to bitch about them to their ls or come here to bitch. At that point you're just wasting even more of your time than you already wasted by staying in the same party with them when you could have been getting better xp solo or with a damned npc.
 
I have to say that people calling it mana has always been a pet peeve of mine too. There are also no such thing as Elves in FFXI, they are Elvaan and are pretty much the polar opposite of how elves are portrayed in other games/books/movies besides the obvious pointy ears. You don't hear people calling tarutaru hobbits because they aren't. I can't think of anything where elves were gorilla armed brutes with high strength, bottom of the barrel agility, dexterity, and intelligence. Oh and elves aren't ugly.
I've often described tarutaru as "hobbits" when trying to explain this game to those who don't understand it :\

Good call about the Elves/Elvaan bit though. Although elves statistically do have greater-than-average strength in stories, their true abilities in those are their agility, and their adeptness with all magics, not just healing.

As far as the answer to the OP's question of why there are so many mages that act like that, it's pretty simple. Because people let them do it. There's a double standard with mages because they are "needed" but in reality what you need is competent ones not ones that don't do their job and just leech a slot in your party.

Even the gimpiest of melee can actually contribute something to the party so he's not a total waste of the slot by simply engaging the mobs. His damage and accuracy may be craptastic but it's alot different if say he only engaged two out of ten mobs you were fighting. Any reasonable leader would boot someone for sure that did that but they let crappy mages get away with doing virtually the same thing all the time by not doing what they got invited to do. If people refused to party with them then it wouldn't be an issue but that's not going to happen, ever. There are too many, "sum xp is bettar thn no xp" types who will gladly invite them just so they can fill slots and even more that will crawl along at 3k/hour for three hours and not say a word about it til the party is over when they then decide to bitch about them to their ls or come here to bitch. At that point you're just wasting even more of your time than you already wasted by staying in the same party with them when you could have been getting better xp solo or with a damned npc.


It's a crying shame I can't rate you up for this, because it's truth in its finest form.
 
back to my derail! Lets get on topic folks... MP is NOT Mana Points
 
I ment his mnd setup, his other setups are pretty weak compared to real MNKs anyways.

ok looking at his mnd setup? There isn't anything really spectacular there... I dont get why you are bitching about his gear still.
 
Nothing is hard to get in this game. Nothing. The "best" stuff requires time, zero skill.
 
ok so when I think of princesses I think of princes too...

and when I think of princes...
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being turned into a frog

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and just looking cool in crowns

does this mean I have a prince complex?... ya I was bored

about rdms ya 99% of them seem to just suck, in some cases I've found it best to just replace them with another less efficient job just so I can get someone who will play decent.
 
Didnt want to post this cause you seem like a nice guy steelfist but before you start ragging on rdms you should learn not to TP to 300% every single WS hopeing to beat your record. Most ppl have windowers and watch what you do. Your WS record no one cares about, we care about your DoT.
 
Because the thread is dead:
STEELFIST

Make it so
 
Didnt want to post this cause you seem like a nice guy steelfist but before you start ragging on rdms you should learn not to TP to 300% every single WS hopeing to beat your record. Most ppl have windowers and watch what you do. Your WS record no one cares about, we care about your DoT.

duly noted. i ended up sitting on a lot of TP because the ninja had trouble holding aggro and i kept it in reserve to finish off monsters in oh shit situations.

you should know, you were tanking most of the night, freakin' awesome damage btw, and i can remember a couple times where my sturmwinds were absolutely necessary to pull aggro off of you when you dropped below 300 HP because provoke simply wasn't enough with your damage and emnity merits.

was my DoT lacking? seemed pretty kickass to me. i'm always open to advice and appreciate it, so thx Matchuu. oh yeah, can i be your supplier of mithkabobs? lol how many stacks did you go through last night? go go snatch morsel
 
fine then.....

HP=hit points not health points.

Discuss.
 
fine then.....

HP=hit points not health points.

Discuss.

It's always been hit points. I've read it as hit points since day one. I don't think anyone has ever called it health points.
 
My favorite part about this thread is some princess RDMs that are actually posting here, offering advice on how not to be a princess RDM.
 
My favorite part about this thread is some princess RDMs that are actually posting here, offering advice on how not to be a princess RDM.

Can I be your princess RDM ;)
 
Let me state that I haven't ready through the first page, but I've already felt my brain tick away slowly at the countless MANA/MAGIC POINTS references..

I may be out of line here but the whole topic dictates that BAM! It's not about what MP may stand for. Just a heads up I took a little time to skim out what is retarded about this already spiraling flame.

Its not called mana, go back to diablo

pretty sure it is indeed, mana

MP =Mana Pool.

The stat is called MP, not mana. Now, whether that means Mana Points or Magic Points is debatable, but it's still not called mana.

It's Magic Points. It's always been Magic Points, and always will be Magic Points.

I must sa-a-a-ay.... these people right here should most likely kill themselves to avoid more pointless arguments over said topic...
 
OH my god... I just read the last page and I must say... bravo. Take credit where credit is due because I believe I just read someone arguing over yet ANOTHER acronym.
 
Names prease. (Better not be me <_< )


It's not you. xD


And no, I don't wanna post names and have an argument with people about it. They'll just say they aren't princesses. And they are. lol
 
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