this game reach a new time low.

Thisismyname said:
Liefe wrote:

He got an item from each and every one of those mobs through the shell except DM which almost didn't happen or didn't happen because he (on the first one, at least) because he gave no details out. I had a screenshot of him logging in saying "hahaha I already have my earring so I don't care anymore," too but I tossed it since I really care so much. Anyhow, did he benefit from all that? Damn right he did
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actually, proph got DM earring and BQ ring before the LS starts doing those runs so ur proof is incorrect.

on top of that, we did 6+? BQ , 3-5 Divine Might, and 8+ OPT hat and proph got an opt hat out of it, wow, he sure got shit load out of that...

u also claims proph didnt give out detail before DM, then i guess we pulled a miracle on DM without knowing wat to expect? u should remember proph spent 30 min goin over the strat becuz he sucks at typing (slow and loads of typo), oh nvm, u werent there , my bad..
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Read my post. I acknowledged that he had beaten DM before your attempts. I'm not even going to nitpick this bullshit with you because I simply don't care enough.
 
WTF!?!? i left this pages alone for one day..it was at about 7 pages...how the hell did it get this big in such a short time?

I would read it...but it is probably growing faster than i can rad it...besides i can't be bothered...
 
-Villarel

It's possible that he coudn't steal from Valkyrs(though it's possible he could), but really is it nice knowing you have a member you can't trust lending something to? If it was just some random member who had lent him a Scorp Harness and he decided to steal it, would that be ok?

And this is a pattern shown. Of stealing things while leaving a shell. Members let each other use expensive items, hold pop item sets, hold seals. Members don't usually have to wait until 1 untrustworthy member passes before everyone else does to be sure they dont lot out of turn.

What we have here is a thief, admitted, plain and simple, someone who feels good about it and admits it after being proven as one by screenshots on the very first post. The post of explanation by Dua points out to problems in OH to justify stealing this 6 million gil item, but everyone in OH, including members who are no longer shell members or even no longer game members agree on one point, Dua was never there. Dua then says he didn't feel like coming because we always had 18 people farming in sky 24/7(false).

So we can agree on 2 things. Dua stole the scorpion harness. Dua never ever came to help for pop items. It doesn't really take a genious to see from here on out that whatever justifications Dua can come up with is just something to steal an item he did not deserve. The fact is he's left all his god LS hated and taking what he felt was "his" by his own system of justification which is proven false.

So yea I supposed you can take him into your LS and decide it's ok because your system doesn't hand out items people don't earn. But you could also invite Roofie into your LS too. You could invite Elitemage the NA BRD who thinks JPs are better, hell he's got sky now. Not trying to challenge your judgement here Villarel because the plain and simple truth is this all happened after he joined, I just think you should think about the facts I've presented to you and try to understand why someone with such a selfish mindset is a bad member for any LS.
 
To sum up:

Don't lend people things. If you do lend them, consider it theirs until they give it back.

And Fire, who the hell is going to 'steal' a pop set? They hold basically no value, especially for one person - unless that person wants to try to solo Byakko or whatever. I suppose they could run to another LS with the set but either way that doesn't seem like a good thing to steal from a group. It'd be like 'stealing' an abj. piece you can actually use.
 
Pop set = time spent in getting it.

Stealing it would be like wasting everyones time they put into it, even if it holds little value you can still piss a lot of people off.
 
Davio said:
Pop set = time spent in getting it.

Stealing it would be like wasting everyones time they put into it, even if it holds little value you can still piss a lot of people off.
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That is sort of what I said in an earlier post. People spent their own time getting pop items, which were used to pop gods, which the original v.claw came from that was used to create the harness that Dua stole. Dua was never around for getting these pop items yet felt he deserved to take that harness that was earned by other people.

The result of stealing the harness? Making the time and effort other people spent on getting the pop items to even have the chance of getting a v.claw completely worthless. That's not fair at all to the people that actually put forth the effort to get these items. Dua was rarely there for pop items and definitely never earned a scorpion harness.
 
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