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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88276522

I can't believe there's no other thread about this (that I've seen at least). Anyway, main point: Tibet protests, it turns violent, the Chinese government takes out at least 100 protesters, now there's an issue with the Olympics. There's more info in the world news section if you follow the link.

Discuss these issues.

Personally, I'm going to boycott Chinese products or any thing that gives money to China. There is no reason for this brutality. Yes, it will be difficult and expensive, but it's worth it for the rights and freedoms of the Tibetan people.
 
I like how they blame it on Dalai Lama, despite his "no violence" stance. Dalai Lama said he will leave if that solves the problem.

Its been all over the newspapers in Sweden this past week. There's really not a lot you can do, though. Sure, you can boycott Chinese products, but that's really all you can do, and it will likely not affect China anyway. Its the companies that buy said products from China. whether or no you buy them or not doesn't matter, as they already made a profit from the companies buying the products. The only ones losing on it is the companies buying Chinese products. Now, if they boycott chinese products, that's a different story. If they can't get Chinese products sold, they will likely stop buying them. However, results won't be visible for a few months anyway in that case.

Best would be for all countries to boycott the Olympics in China.
 
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Chinas rape of Tibet has been going on for how long now? Well over 50 years yah? But maybe you're right, lets boycott now. I for one won't be putting any more quarters into any machine what dispenses tiny capsulated pieces of plastic novelty joy made in china this day, nor any day to follow!

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unless of course if i see a machine with the lil green aliens, i'll drop like 5$ worth of quarters in there every time yo! i f'n love those
 
Realia said:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88276522
I'm going to boycott Chinese products or any thing that gives money to China. There is no reason for this brutality. Yes, it will be difficult and expensive, but it's worth it for the rights and freedoms of the Tibetan people.
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not to sound mean, but theres alot made in china and you technically don't have to buy it since the company who has thier items made in china... already paid them...

I would personally be surpsrised if the Oplymics pulled out of China considering how much they've spent on "Updating" the only city worth noting on the mainland of China.
 
It's true, too much money has gone into China already for my boycott to really count. But I want to get the word out, spread this information to others and hopefully others will join me. The more people boycott Chinese products, the less they sell at stores and the less the stores buy them. If I can make any small difference, then that's all that matters to me.
 
I still think its funny how they'd even consider holding the olympics in a city with probably the worst air pollution in the world. "Hey lets go run a 20 mile marathon and then breath in terrible polluted air! Sounds like a fucking riot!"

Sorry for the derail, but just wanted to throw that out there.
 
RaidrX said:
I still think its funny how they'd even consider holding the olympics in a city with probably the worst air pollution in the world. "Hey lets go run a 20 mile marathon and then breath in terrible polluted air! Sounds like a fucking riot!"

Sorry for the derail, but just wanted to throw that out there.
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No, it brings up a good question. With all the pollution it would be very difficult to do any kind of hard core exercising. Also, I doubt the government will let the press go very far outside the city (or even to other parts of the city) and if they do I'm sure it'll all be fake anyway.
 
I'd bet a thousand dollars to a kiss Tokyo and Los Angeles are worse.

Plus a boycott of Chinese products only harms the local companies in the short term, because the Chinese companies have already been paid. Also this is not even the first type of event between China and Tibet. China has a bad history with human rights lol....

But then again, most countries have a bloody past. Britain, Italy, Germany, Scotland, Ireland, Russia, France, anything in the Balkan area, most of Eastern Europe, pretty much all of Latin America, most of South America, realistically all of Africa, Japan, Vietnam, Thailand, Korea, Malaysia, USA, Canada, and the list goes on. Could find any number of reasons to "boycott" a country.

But thwapping China on the nose with a newspaper, and taking away its new toy isn't going to help in the long term. China needs to be given the opportunity to hold such an event like the Olympics. And ESPECIALLY the Olympics, given the multicultural nature of such an event. Such an in-your-face example of many countries working together might actually affect the situation with Tibet. If they royally screw up handling the Olympics, then maybe take a harsher stance, but as an evolving country, I think it's perfect for China.
 
As far as pollution goes? I honestly have no idea.

And yes Mal, every where in the world has a bloody past, there's no getting around it. (Newly Appointed United States, genocide against the Native Americans, ring a bell?) As a history enthusiast and my boyfriend as a history major with an emphasis on Irish history I know very well that no one can escape with a clean, un-bloodied past.

And I never actually said anything about taking away the Olympics in Beijing, it was only implied by some people in (and many outside) the article. It could potentially be good for Tibet, but more than likely China won't let the press anywhere outside the designated Olympic zone. Especially in Tibet.

Oh, and has anyone heard/read about the statements China has made on the Dalai Lama? They said he planned the protests, even though he won the Noble Prize for his work in non-violence, and the CCP called him a, and I quote, "demon wearing a human face." That was the breaking point for me.

As many of you may already know about me, I love Asian culture and customs, love learning about them and studying them. I always will. But when actions like this in Tibet, Darfur, and Burma happen, it is very hard for me to just sit by doing absolutely nothing.

Questions about Burma or Darfur? Or any others on Tibet?
Burma: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7010202.stm
Darfur: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3496731.stm
Tibet: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/country_profiles/4152353.stm
 
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Realia said:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88276522

I can't believe there's no other thread about this (that I've seen at least). Anyway, main point: Tibet protests, it turns violent, the Chinese government takes out at least 100 protesters, now there's an issue with the Olympics. There's more info in the world news section if you follow the link.

Discuss these issues.

Personally, I'm going to boycott Chinese products or any thing that gives money to China. There is no reason for this brutality. Yes, it will be difficult and expensive, but it's worth it for the rights and freedoms of the Tibetan people.
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So you wont boycott the products from china that are made from lead, the working conditions in china, and the fact that china is taking away manufacturing jobs from the US?
 
Malagra said:
I'd bet a thousand dollars to a kiss Tokyo and Los Angeles are worse.

Plus a boycott of Chinese products only harms the local companies in the short term, because the Chinese companies have already been paid. Also this is not even the first type of event between China and Tibet. China has a bad history with human rights lol....

But then again, most countries have a bloody past. Britain, Italy, Germany, Scotland, Ireland, Russia, France, anything in the Balkan area, most of Eastern Europe, pretty much all of Latin America, most of South America, realistically all of Africa, Japan, Vietnam, Thailand, Korea, Malaysia, USA, Canada, and the list goes on. Could find any number of reasons to "boycott" a country.

But thwapping China on the nose with a newspaper, and taking away its new toy isn't going to help in the long term. China needs to be given the opportunity to hold such an event like the Olympics. And ESPECIALLY the Olympics, given the multicultural nature of such an event. Such an in-your-face example of many countries working together might actually affect the situation with Tibet. If they royally screw up handling the Olympics, then maybe take a harsher stance, but as an evolving country, I think it's perfect for China.
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Actually 76% of LA's air pollution comes from the cashmere yak in China from eating grass and ripping ass.
 
romperstomper said:
So you wont boycott the products from china that are made from lead, the working conditions in china, and the fact that china is taking away manufacturing jobs from the US?
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Would all of these things give China more money and are they against human rights? Yes. So yes, I would be boycotting them. I'm not going to say 'I think I'll boycott this part of the issue, but not all of it.' If that were the case then it wouldn't be a boycott at all.
 
Realia said:
Would all of these things give China more money and are they against human rights? Yes. So yes, I would be boycotting them. I'm not going to say 'I think I'll boycott this part of the issue, but not all of it.' If that were the case then it wouldn't be a boycott at all.
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That's the problem with just finishing an english paper. What I meant to say is you'll boycott over Tibet, but not what I mentioned in my first post. Coincidentally my paper was on Wal-Mart. >.> <.<
 
romperstomper said:
That's the problem with just finishing an english paper. What I meant to say is you'll boycott over Tibet, but not what I mentioned in my first post. Coincidentally my paper was on Wal-Mart. >.> <.<
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Oh. lol. I've been aware and upset with the way China has treated it's own people, I think the actions in Tibet just kinda pushed me to boycott and really try to not buy anything Chinese made. That and all the lead, cashmere pollution, violation of human rights/freedom of speech/religion and all that. I'm sorry, but if China can't treat their own people fairly then how are we supposed to just let them become the next superpower influencing (aka forcing) their views to their surrounding neighbors and third world countries? It doesn't make sense to me, but maybe that's because I actually have a set or moral values and won't be bought by cheap products (that are probably made of lead or have some kind of virus that will take my FFXI pw). I'm not saying everyone else is this way, but a majority of the American population is and whose motto is "The cheaper the better, no matter how it's made."

If it sounds like I just rambled all that it's cause I did, I'm way tired and haven't gotten a good nights sleep in... a while.
 
What suprises me is just the simple fact that the Olympics was going to be held in Beijing anyways. China has a horrible human rights record, harvests organs from executed prisoners, complete control of the media to name a few.

They blame the Dalai Lama for what is happening? lol please...
 
Well, I'm quite sad to say 'Its about damn time'. Peaceful protest can only go so far against a domination mind-set like the Chinese have. I've been very into a Free Tibet for quite some time and have done what little is available for me to do. I've seen it come in and out of popularity as when front-man Adam Yauch brought the MTV culture into the movement. That was pretty damn significant, but with all things in America, it was a fad that passed.

Hopefully the Dalai Lama will be forgiving enough to understand why the monks in the country he's been so long-exiled from (since 1959) have been fighting for their right to live and worship in a nation that shuns religion as part of the 'Communist Concept'.
 
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