To Isollde and the rest of the puppys.

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dude, why are you crapping on their skills as an endgame shell? that's a low blow and really doesn't have any place in this thread. if you want to call someone out for hypocrisy, that's fine and dandy, but it does not give you the right to be a dong to them concerning the achievements of which they're justifiably proud. i just don't get it.

Looking at it idealistically, each person has their own standpoint on what they've done. Far too many people believe that this game is the only common ground for social interaction, and based on that, begin to establish their own, special "placement" for say. It's a tiered system, like anything else, and totally rubbish at that. When you see social interactions and in some cases entire lives spent in this regard, via the internet or a game, you get groups of people over time that have made more "accomplishments" than others. Now, this isn't a burn to Necrosis, or anyone else, as I'm no innocent in teasing based on gear selection or other various things, but what tends to happen more often than not, as seen in Necro's response to Anaeran's post, is mockery.

In the end, you need to stop and think about it before being offended at that kind of thing. Necrosis has done just about all the game has to offer. Necrosis is not an idle person, and at times (again, not a burn to you buddy) he is not very amicable at all. Again, case in point, it's all in perspective. People in Celestial Knights were proud of killing that Nidhogg, being completely new to the Three Kings scene and still a fairly unequipped shell at the time, rightly so. There is nothing wrong with being proud of something, be it killing something revered in a video game you play, learning to tie your shoe, asking that girl out (or guy, bare with me ladies), or anything else. But understand, that not everyone else will deem what you're proud of as an accomplishment. That's just how it goes. Humans, as a whole, strive to be ahead of their peers in the kind of society we live in. We have a structured, livable world where classes subrigate other classes with your extreme tops and your extreme bottoms. What happens when people from the higher ups see the lower bottoms? They mock it, they berate it. Why? Logically, it's because they completely disregard someone from that group's complacity with their own living situation. Does it happen often? Yes, but it's not absolute.

Eventually, it comes to down to the fact that everyone attempts to achieve more in life, at least anyone decent and self-caring, be it in a video game, real life, with a woman, with money, living status, etc. Anything you can think of that has any sort of tiered human symplex system is up for grabs there.

Now, as I touched on earlier, taking offense to an insult really is counter-productive. Everyone needs to realize that people as a whole, have flaws. Many flaws. But alot of them are all in perspective. The internet, guys and gals, is not as serious of a place as society in today's world deems it, try not to take things so offensively from someone that you will never, ever know. Now, I like Necrosis, I find his to-the-point attitude very refreshing, but that doesn't really change the nature of this "argument". Now, I don't frequent this section of the QCDN database often, because really, most of these "flames" are either written poorly, or about someone taking offense to the most minor issues that really do not need any more lime light than say, Donald Trump.

In the end, realize that you're just you. You and your friends, take relevence and enjoyment in what it is you do, and not necessarily anyone outside of that little circle of endulgence. Necrosis was very free to bring the insults to the board, just as much as all of you are very free to read these insults and actually take offense, if you really want to subjigate yourself to any kind of emotional controversy over a game. Again, it's free choice, so take it as you will.
 
1) You said "Sky exclusively at the moment" which means? everyone together now! SKY UNTIL?! The shell grows and is ready to do more!!! YAY!!! Clap our hands together we finally understood the ENTIRE sentence.

Ok Like I said, until you guys grow and are ready to do more? One month as a LS you have one Kirin set and you guys are already grown up and doing more eh? Good job then, didn't realize this (sarcasm)

2) Obtaining a Kirin set within the 1st 2 months since the shells start isn't half bad by any standards.

Where did I say it was?

3) You completely ignored Anaeran's post and insulted a 2nd linkshell

Oh no I think I replied directly to Ana, and what second LS? CK doesn't exist anymore, thankfully, all they did was clog up Vandy with their clouded heads on how good they thought they were.

4) This is the internet and FUCK who spells what or how it's spelled

Yet you and your wife are the ones constantly trying to give "Engish Lessens" and trying to teach people to "Lern how 2 spel faget" right?

5) You and your dumbfucked mind comprehend the original post either? You flamed Iso for being hypocritical about spelling and name calling when here, right here, you are doing the same act.

I am flaming her for being a coward, which I do not do, and have not done.


Anything else big boy?
 
The Ranger wrote

"I have an MMO track record dating back to 1999 that would put yours to shame btw you pre-pubescent little punk,"

aaaaaand on that note! hahahahahahaha
 
1) You said "Sky exclusively at the moment" which means? everyone together now! SKY UNTIL?! The shell grows and is ready to do more!!! YAY!!! Clap our hands together we finally understood the ENTIRE sentence.

Ok Like I said, until you guys grow and are ready to do more? One month as a LS you have one Kirin set and you guys are already grown up and doing more eh? Good job then, didn't realize this (sarcasm)

2) Obtaining a Kirin set within the 1st 2 months since the shells start isn't half bad by any standards.

Where did I say it was?

3) You completely ignored Anaeran's post and insulted a 2nd linkshell

Oh no I think I replied directly to Ana, and what second LS? CK doesn't exist anymore, thankfully, all they did was clog up Vandy with their clouded heads on how good they thought they were.

4) This is the internet and FUCK who spells what or how it's spelled

Yet you and your wife are the ones constantly trying to give "Engish Lessens" and trying to teach people to "Lern how 2 spel faget" right?

5) You and your dumbfucked mind comprehend the original post either? You flamed Iso for being hypocritical about spelling and name calling when here, right here, you are doing the same act.

I am flaming her for being a coward, which I do not do, and have not done.


Anything else big boy?

Ya you missed the part where your an ebonic lover... I never had a problem with your sorry ass up until now. As to why your doing this, pft you probably got your sorry ass kicked in ballista one too many times >.>

You have insulted the shell as well as CK(whatever name its under now) multiple times now.

no your right you haven't coward as you call it behind rl. BUT you have coward peoples original posts and turn them into "OMG ima make him look bad!" threads continue on. i think its still working for you
 
The Ranger wrote

"I have an MMO track record dating back to 1999 that would put yours to shame btw you pre-pubescent little punk,"

aaaaaand on that note! hahahahahahaha

Care to argue your case or are you just going to sit back and take it up the ass?

I've played with some of the best teams in the entire world in their primes. What have you done besides run a little faster than everyone else and kill some FFXI shit with a 2nd or 3rd ranked LS with a cloud of hacks over its head?

I'm all ears champ.
 
What I want to know is, why are you so mad Necrosis? You're getting awfully worked up about... nothing. Sure, call them a coward. I think being called a coward is at some points worse than being called some (notice I said some..) of the names you've already demonstrated for us.

In a real life arguement, were you face to face, Isollde just turned around and walked away; refusing to answer, would justifiably garner this type of response. I cannot understand why now, this is getting so much emotional involvement from you. You even went as far as to exact your anger into the End-Game Forum, for what reason? You're really pissed about something, but I don't want to believe its about Isollde and Moink calling people newbs and commenting on spelling errors and then 'running away' from you (or anyone) calling them out about it.

*Gives Necrosis a cookie* Simmer down hon, seriously.
 
Care to argue your case or are you just going to sit back and take it up the ass?

I've played with some of the best teams in the entire world in their primes. What have you done besides run a little faster than everyone else and kill some FFXI shit with a 2nd or 3rd ranked LS with a cloud of hacks over its head?

I'm all ears champ.


Care to tell me about your best teams from 2004 to 2007 or so?

and by the way why is everyone really laying into that Necro kid, he's a good guy seriously =)

Jesus people are so dense.
 
I just got onto qcdn this morning, to find a 15 page thread on Isollde and Moink, that didn't even get started until yesterday noon. And the point of the op, as I understand it, is that Isollde and Moink should be put down and villified because they run a startup sky shell, yet are calling others noobs, and sometime have spelling errors. I haven't read all the posts <shudder> but I think there's also been some criticism as to how they're going about things getting their shell up to speed.

I'm not sure if i've ever seen a purer case of mean-spirited, manufactured drama than this thread. Jaysus, get a life!

Iso and Moink are good people. They're human, like we all are, they make mistakes, they have their good days and their bad times, but they're basically really good people, and can be a lot of fun to hang with.

They didn't start the game way back at the beginning of time, but they took to the game like ducks to water when they did start, and have been enthusiastic players as long as I've known them (hell, Iso did a level 1, no gear race from Sandy to Jeuno when her highest job at the time was about level 7. She did it on a lark and was a very entertaining and nice participant).

Now, they've started a new shell, focused on sky atm, and they're recruiting a lot of people who're leveling up their first jobs into the 65-70 range and thus, need a while to learn the ropes. Iso and Moink are trying to have fun with it and to show others how to do it in a fun way. This task they've taken on is a huge challenge, is often frustrating, and can be exceedingly draining. I'd never try it in a million years- I don't want the headaches - but they've taken it on, are trying the best they can and are doing well at it. Ferchrissake, why not cut em some slack and let them find their own path?

If qcdn ever passes out an award for "Best Manufactured Drama in a Thread," this one has my vote hands down. It should also get at least a nomination for "Most Mean-Spirited Thread."

And now I've done it. Posting in Flameboard threads almost invariably is an exercise in futility. This one was so off the wall, though, it sucked me right in.

All the best,
Fire
 
He'd prob make the cookie into some Iso and Moink gouging(sp) fest. Poking it and clawing it until it was nothing more then crumbs.


Yep I know when I am getting owned on a lolmessage board and have nothing left to defend myself with I like to buddy up REAL quick with someone who isnt flaming my sorry ass either.

Speak for yourself and stop trying to cling on to other's posts pussy.

and Firebrand this board sucks now, Im just trying to give people reading material anymore. Bored.

Once again, vang has a big dick.

Whoooosh whooosh whooosh


Fucking QCDN idiots take a hint.
 
I've only met Firebrand once, and he gets it.

I guess you can't teach old dogs new tricks or something :\ Just for the pups.
 
I retired back in January you hacking piece of shit. How much talent does it take to load a 3rd party program again????

What CK did and didn't do is irrelavent to this discussion. You're a fuckin joke dude, and I'm callin you out on it right now. You brag about your elitism and use the words fuck shit and idiot in every other sentence, but you've got no talent to back it up. Not even an IQ for that matter, Christ. I read your first post and wept a little for your mother. She must be so embarrassed about how you turned out she probably can't even leave the fucking house, can she? Calling a woman a prostitute over a spelling dispute? Grow the fuck up man.

I have an MMO track record dating back to 1999 that would put yours to shame btw you pre-pubescent little punk, but I don't care to brag about it to people. FFXI was the bridge between then and now, and I played it far more casually than I've ever been involved with any other game. It was refreshing for my RL, but you're right I didn't take CK to the top or anywhere near it. That reflects my desire for the content and not so much my ability to get there. I was goddamn proud of my guys when they killed Nidhogg and still am to this day. Thanks for bringing that up for me...good freakin' times man.

So go ahead and hold your Nidhogg for 20 seconds with flee hax or whatever other bullshit you roll with. It isn't an accomplishment and neither are you. You're the kind of fuck up that gives "elitist players" that negative aura that got me ripped apart in the other thread, but you know damned well you're a no talent hack.

I can curse and namecall too btw. It doesn't make or break my argument. Not talking out of my ass does.

Maybe if you spew enough of your flame bullshit and scare nice people into submission they'll give you your elitist glory, but I sure as hell won't.

And 2004 was a great year. Redsox world series champs...I'd go live in that year over and over and over again, pumpkin.

You are a fucking piece of shit. You act all proud of CK, when you ended up ditching all of them in the end (At least that's what everyone's told me, most of the people that were in CK wish they'd listened to me when I left from what I hear.) You didn't give 2 fucks about them. I bet when you killed niddy, you only thought about yourself, all "Go me, I lead a LS to be a fucking king!" Good for you, dickhead. Nobody cares.

You are seriously the worst LS leader I had ever had the displeasure of knowing. You treated all your members like dirt, all the while only thinking about yourself. You acted like everyone in your LS is your friend, until they leave CK, or if they have any doubt about your leadership skills, then you spit in their faces. What kind of horrible friend are you? You're prolly the exact same way in RL, you scumbag. Having no friends, making the only thing you can be proud of being your stupid ass "online leadership experience" that doesn't mean dick, when you're an asshole, like you are.

Mistra and I are always joking about you putting "MMO Leadership experience: on an application for a job.. Because it seriously sounds like something you'd do. lol

Orestes is a million times the leader you would ever hope to be. We only do Sky, but at least he respects all of us. He is selfless, and cares about his members, and takes their ideas and opinions to heart. I have done so many stupid things in Fury, I'm surprised he hasn't booted me, being used to your stupid-ass leading. But he is a true friend, that listens to what I have to say. Unlike you, where if someone said 1 thing against you, you'd boot them out of the LS. Did you honestly give a shit about anyone in CK? You'll prolly spew some bullshit lie, but you and me both know the real answer is, "no." I remember you booting me for being AFK while you were doing bastok rank missions, lmao. Goddamn BASTOK MISSIONS. Haha.. That makes me laugh so hard still.

By the way, the Red Sox won 3 years ago and haven't gotten even close since, who the hell cares about them? They'll prolly fuck it up like usual, unless they get lucky, like in 2004. It's fucking laughable you give Yankee fans shit for losing that series, when we both know the Red Sox were just lucky as hell. (Btw, I am a red sox fan, but since they haven't gotten close to the world series since they won, I call 2004 a fluke, until they prove to me otherwise)

You'll prolly try to turn this on me, but I won't back down from this, you piece of shit. Why do you even post here? Go to some dumb Vanguard forums and piss them off, get the hell outta here.
 
"The Critic"

I find the following to be, perhaps, the most appropriate message that can be given here.

All the best,
Fire

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

-- Theodore Roosevelt
 
Talkin about eq1 guilds from 1999 to 2003. CoE + FoH of Veeshan.

I did put together the original CK1 team that turned out to be a large part of the founding core of Ascension and later Kaizen, but I retired for a girlfriend for one year in between and thats hardly playing for or with a top team by any standards. Proud of them too though :P

So to answer your question, I did not play with any top groups in the years you mentioned. I'm playing with FoH friends in Vanguard at the moment, though there's no raid content to tell if we're a top group or not yet.



So...your turn to answer the question? What have you done besides flee hack with OH and cheat to beat some FFXI mobs while STILL being dominated by a legit group in Kaizen??????
 
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