TY Zylia; for w/o you, my night would of sucked

Anaeran said:
Lets afk in jeuno for 30mins as the party wants to head out. Lets take our dear sweet time getting through valkurm (gustav camp) while everyone's waiting even longer at camp. Lets astral flow on the very first pull just cause its so uber cool to see. Lets spend half the PT arguing game dynamics with people who are performing their roles a thousand times better than you are.

Even better, lets stop posting flames when we don't know what the hell we're talking about.
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L.O.L. Yea... that's Isa...

And buddy, I <3 you.. but you really can be an ass. =P (read: check LS ragging on /emotes and corresponding macros)
 
Crisis said:
Wow, that is a great way to debate a point. I have only met Zylia on my old character, but never really interacted with them nor have an opinion of them. But to just not even bother reading the information in front of you due to personal bias is an uneducated flame at best. Even if someone I HATE posts something about anyhting really, I will read it as everyone has their point.
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Due to illegibility and my eyes fucking bleeding just trying to look at it.

Crisis said:
You sir are just ignorant and really suck at giving a good arguement. Explain how he sucks as Whm and is an ass as I've played with him on this game since he started playing and can contest to his skill and "humor." Not viewing a side of a story is just ignorance and a poor showing of your character.

Good day.
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I'm not ignorant, something poorly written from a person I've experienced rather negatively just isn't worth my time.

Just for you, I've read the post. It was worthless and full of holes, which were conveniently filled by Anaeran.

Just for YOU, I'm now going to sit here and type out how I partied with Isakazu, he was more focused on casting dia to pull mobs than curing people (resulting in deaths), for overall horrible exp, and then made insulting remarks behind my back when I got fed up with it and left.

I was perfectly happy to just make a jab at his ego strutting, but since it's so important to you, I'll explain things nice and clearly for everyone.
 
Isakazu said:
apparently, after the smoke settled, i thought everything was good, and it was...but obviously zy was more concerned with making the pt better brd>smn i know this too its sorta hard makin a pt with me as smn, i know as whm, i would always rdm or brd>smn and i think i only pted w/ a smn couple times otw to 75...also the pld DCed and i said a nin was avail. I had them on standby, zy said the ninwas comin already, the pld came back 15 min later... .t asked me where we were, said leader found ninja so he warped...i mean all is good, i was quite amused by the whole thing and still am

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I missed this post. This is all a complete lie and quite amusing :P. I was the Paladin. I dc'd and was unable to return due to RL events that came up (i had warned pt it may happen a good hour before it did). I never came back and never once spoke to you the entire evening. The only time I even mentioned you was in LS chat when I asked my CK people (Zylia, Moriarti and Ssouljah are all CK) there to ignore your bs so we could just relax and exp. I'm still dc'd in gustav tunnel at this very moment in fact.

I'm sorry you were wrongfully d2'd, but the more you post, the more I feel like you probably deserved it anyways.
 
Isakazu said:
fuck you zylia, from what i hear from friends including people from the other pt infront of us, you are a jack ass elitist and doesnt play that well...
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*slaps you* You don't know the REAL Zyl. So stop saying nonesense BS.
Zyl is a wonderful person, always willing to help people, and he's a great THF and BLM. You don't know her.. only because "your friends" talk shit about people they don't even know CLOSELY, doesn't mean they're saying the truth :P so you and your flame sir, fail. Oh and she knows how to play this game. I don't know if you do but I doubt I will ever know as I won't ever party with you.^^;

*sigh* If you want respect, earn it. You've lost all my respect (I know you don't care) by saying things like "fuck you". So I had to say all that.
 
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Ok, well as far as the OP goes: That was the most complicated thing to read that I've seen all day. @_@... half didn't even seem to make sense, and it rambled on a little more then it needed to..

Secondly: I have never partied with Zylia personally, but I have partied with and have a few very good friends in CK. They are all damn competent, and great players. If you weren't doing your job as they needed you to within the party, and talking shit.. then you got what deserved. If it was me.. I probably would have done the same thing.
 
I think Zylia is a very bad and evil person. The OP is right on the money. Stay away fron Zylia...Thanks for making this post to let the truth come out.
Down with Zylia!!!!
 
To be honest SMN and WHM together in a party is a bad combination, and when you're the expendable job of a bad combination watch out > like a THF with no trick buddy or a PLD when there's a NIN in the party already. I'm not saying Zylia was wrong to kick you as I haven't really been given a clear picture of your perforrmance in the party, but just D2ing someone without notice warrants some extreme justification.

As well, the easiest way to be kicked is to make a mistake and be a low demand job - I know I've felt bad about my performance on BRD because I felt I could be doing better and then I have people telling me I'm "doing awesome." On the other hand on my SMN I feel that I do very well and nobody ever says anything. So yeah, having to do better than average may be a part of your expectations as justification, otherwise a party leader may be looking at a seeking BRD and wish they had them instead of you - then every mistake you make is echoed in their mind, or not even mistakes but your own style different from their own.

Now I am not going to be presumptious to say your performance didn't merit being kicked as I wasn't there, but yes, I doubt they'd kick a shitty brd to get you. Then again, this is a specific flame against Zylia and for all I know she would.
 
Character assessments by people who weren't at the actual party as arguments are a bad precident as it allows more popular players to bully less popular players in the long run. It's just a negative effect of that as a community standard.
 
The other day Zylia invited me to kill some stuff in That ru place in Al'teau. It was my first time there(got access the same day) and we killed and killed and when I asked for a D2 she wouldn't give me one..Some 75 BLM....
Don't belive her, she is full of lies!
 
Firestreak said:
Character assessments by people who weren't at the actual party as arguments are a bad precident as it allows more popular players to bully less popular players in the long run. It's just a negative effect of that as a community standard.
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I disagree. Everyone sees people differently. the entire point of these boards is for players to get to know, and keep in contact with one another. If someone has a bad experience with someone, and they post it here, who is to say it's wrong for both friends and enemies of said person to come out and voice their opinions?

No, most of the people here posting weren't in this particular party. But some were, and they have also posted to shed light on what actually happened. Others have come forward as well. People who think the OP is fully of shit, and people defending him. That also goes for the people who have posted about Zylia.

Just because you weren't there for this particular experience, doesn't mean someone here hasn't had a similar one, with either person.
 
Zethren said:
The other day Zylia invited me to kill some stuff in That ru place in Al'teau. It was my first time there(got access the same day) and we killed and killed and when I asked for a D2 she wouldn't give me one..Some 75 BLM....
Don't belive her, she is full of lies!
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LOL.. you're whining because she wouldn't give you a D2? That was your bad, you shouldn't rely on other people in the game to take care of you. Warp Scroll, Cudgel, etc.. take your pick. there are plenty of ways to get around other then assuming someone is going to do it for you.
 
Isollde said:
LOL.. you're whining because she wouldn't give you a D2? That was your bad, you shouldn't rely on other people in the game to take care of you. Warp Scroll, Cudgel, etc.. take your pick. there are plenty of ways to get around other then assuming someone is going to do it for you.
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Yes it is her job to d2 me, especially when it was her WHO INVITED ME TO TAG ALONG. It's zylia job to do everything. PERIOD!
 
I'm gonna use you as a ranged attack in Dynamis tonight Zethren <3
 
Isollde said:
I disagree. Everyone sees people differently. the entire point of these boards is for players to get to know, and keep in contact with one another. If someone has a bad experience with someone, and they post it here, who is to say it's wrong for both friends and enemies of said person to come out and voice their opinions?

No, most of the people here posting weren't in this particular party. But some were, and they have also posted to shed light on what actually happened. Others have come forward as well. People who think the OP is fully of shit, and people defending him. That also goes for the people who have posted about Zylia.

Just because you weren't there for this particular experience, doesn't mean someone here hasn't had a similar one, with either person.
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The only thing of relevance is credibility and that comes into play when 2 players are accusing each other of lying. This is a specific flame against a specific player that has little controversy and very minor wrongdoing cited.(Not really wrongdoing to be honest as far as I can tell.) The need for friends to come in and defend Zylia without anything relevant to the event at hand is very little and if nothing else gives out the general notion that a person's likability is somehow congruent with how they're allowed to treat people.
 
Zylia said:
I'm gonna use you as a ranged attack in Dynamis tonight Zethren <3
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And SATA on me too?
 
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The only thing of relevance is credibility and that comes into play when 2 players are accusing each other of lying. This is a specific flame against a specific player that has little controversy and very minor wrongdoing cited.(Not really wrongdoing to be honest as far as I can tell.) The need for friends to come in and defend Zylia without anything relevant to the event at hand is very little and if nothing else gives out the general notion that a person's likability is somehow congruent with how they're allowed to treat people.
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Again I disagree. But to each his own, man.
 
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Isollde said:
No, most of the people here posting weren't in this particular party. But some were, and they have also posted to shed light on what actually happened. Others have come forward as well. People who think the OP is fully of shit, and people defending him. .
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I was in the PT and I can assure you the OP is, in fact, full of shit.

The real question is: can we make it to 10 pages with the same 3 main points...? Need more Zylia haters I think :D
 
Anaeran said:
I was in the PT and I can assure you the OP is, in fact, full of shit.

The real question is: can we make it to 10 pages with the same 3 main points...? Need more Zylia haters I think :D
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Trying bud trying...
 
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