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Guess rdm can sell tehres +elemental equip then, people will be mad if RDM nukes.

Looks like SMN is now required for some things, like Pro-ultima, and Kirin if you don't want it to take more then an hour to kill :/

As if Sea NMs were not hard enoph, thay go and nurf blms so thay even harder! I'v heard a RMT shell on one surver mana burned AV on one surver a few times.... so this is SE way of making shur AV not beaten again. As we all know SE never wants people to beat AV.
 
Pretty sure mages are overreacting. The effect diminishes over time and it's not like you're nonstop nuking during these fights (well, you shouldn't be). Pretty sure this is mostly to try to eliminate manaburn/etcburn tactics for KS, BCNM, CoP mission, etc fights.
 
Mariox said:
As if Sea NMs were not hard enoph, thay go and nurf blms so thay even harder! I'v heard a RMT shell on one surver mana burned AV on one surver a few times.... so this is SE way of making shur AV not beaten again. As we all know SE never wants people to beat AV.
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Wrong. SE does want you to beat av. They just don't want you do it the cheap and cheesy way.
The developers took an untold amount of manhours thinking up strategies they could make people use against av/other ridiculously hard fights and We the players decide not to think and instead go with the strategy just throw more rng and blm at it.
Since rng was nerfed that changed into throw more blm at it. Did you know that promyvion holla and mea are not insanely hard like everyone claims they are most of the time? Guess what there are these little items called anima that weaken the bosses there.
AV was meant to be beaten by only the most pimped out players on a server and the weakness of av requires at least 2-3 hnm ls to exploit and kill AV properly. That's right. SE made a NM that requires *gasp* JP and NA hnmls to work together to befeat av since most servers dont have the numbers of pimped out godgear+1ect players all together that speak the same language to kill it alone.
 
I don't mind the nerf, doesn't seem bad, what I don't like if how lazy SE is and made it "all magic", that's why ninjitsu, mijin, chi blast, and everything is effected. They didn't nerf only blm because that would mean effort on their part, instead they nerf the whole damage category (probably like 10mins of work for 1 guy). This is bad mainly because chi blasts, ninjitsu, some ws's, and other things completely unrelated to blm zerging downgrade the damage on blms as well.

Depending on how they implement it, 1 blm nuking in party of 5blms for 2hrs will do the same damage as 1 blm nuking with an allaince of mnks, nins, spirits within using melees, plds using flash, etc..

I'm used to working with about 2-4 blms for most events (dynamis, wryms, ks99's, etc..) without any problems. so as long as they're true to their words about it only really affecting large numbers, not much should change. (I hear bahamut v.2 is a huge exception, ks99 turtle might be too)

edit: Another bright side might be all those blms who like to spam IV and -gaIII spells might get checked by the system, aka: they won't die and do more damage overall even if the numbers aren't amazing.
 
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let us be reminded that supposedly "researchers" and "testers" do the Kirin and HNM fights with the "fixes" in place.. so rest assured the things we do already will still be possible after the update.

Blm has been my main since I created this character, and will continue to be my main long after this patch.

yes, I'm lvl'ing smn too.. but that was always the plan.. was just on hold til I got Fenrir.. which I have now.. now to get Diabolos and I'm set.
 
Peregrine said:
lol...
What are blm bcwhores going to do for gil now?
What are all those endgamers, leveling summoner to be important, going to do now?

Pray that it's weak, that's what.

Just when blms started to fall out of favor, SE kicks them in the nuts? That's pretty darn funny, but pretty darn SE.
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Summoner uses physical, not magical bloodpacts endgame. The level 70 pacts are physical attacks.

Also, BLM fall out of favour?
 
CmdrFly said:
Oh snap... post-update: Shen (Impossible to Kill)
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Shen dies with so few nukes I doubt he will be affected at all

Darthyoda said:
let us be reminded that supposedly "researchers" and "testers" do the Kirin and HNM fights with the "fixes" in place.. so rest assured the things we do already will still be possible after the update.

Blm has been my main since I created this character, and will continue to be my main long after this patch.

yes, I'm lvl'ing smn too.. but that was always the plan.. was just on hold til I got Fenrir.. which I have now.. now to get Diabolos and I'm set.
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And these "researchers" supposedly also beat AV with 18 people...hah
 
I say we have someone break into SE's secret hideout and steal the recording of them taking down AV with 18 people, then we can all watch it and see how they did it. <.<
 
You guys seem to forget the testers probably all have fully unlocked relic weapons and lv80+ characters not to mention capped merits. They also probably know the people who made AV so they might have gotten a few hints.
 
Tagrineth said:
Summoner uses physical, not magical bloodpacts endgame. The level 70 pacts are physical attacks.

Also, BLM fall out of favour?
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In terms of EXP around the levels TPburns pickup in ToAU areas, which some say is around 50-55. But Manaburns are easy to form around 73 again, so it's only a ~20 level rough patch. Falling out of favor? Yeah probably, but as mages we're already so high above everyone else that it'll take a hell of a lot of falling to even equal the suffering of a melee. If Bill Gates is suddenly only as rich as Donald Trump, and I say "Ha, you're falling out of favor now", it'd be the same thing. Richest in the world down to incredibly darn rich, being commented on by middle class average joe with a part time job. I'm unconcerned. Actually, if this patch makes the bandwagon blms leave for greener pastures, I welcome it.
 
Khajit said:
You guys seem to forget the testers probably all have fully unlocked relic weapons and lv80+ characters not to mention capped merits. They also probably know the people who made AV so they might have gotten a few hints.
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That would defeat the purpose of making sure that players in the game are able to defeat 'said' mobs that are tested. So no, they wouldnt be using lvl +80 characters.
 
Brin said:
That would defeat the purpose of making sure that players in the game are able to defeat 'said' mobs that are tested. So no, they wouldnt be using lvl +80 characters.
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The weakness of AV is killing multiple Sea NM constantly to disable AV's 2 hours. Lets be honest those nm are probably pretty spread out and I doubt ANY maxed out lv 75 char full alliance can beat not only AV but mutiple nm at the same time in a roaming situation.

However if a full alliance of lv 80 -85 chars could kill av that would mean that an entire ls working together swapping out people with tp for ws/chi blast ect and a healling alliance could stand a chance in theory.
This is assuming they specifically said they beat it with only 18 and not 50+ people swapping parties ect. I never read the statement by SE so maybe they mean they didnt use CFH or some bullcrap.
 
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Khajit said:
You guys seem to forget the testers probably all have fully unlocked relic weapons and lv80+ characters not to mention capped merits. They also probably know the people who made AV so they might have gotten a few hints.
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IDK why, but SE reminds me of that kid on your block who had a Game Genie who would say that any insanely hard game was relitively easy.

Sure, any HNM is easy if you are able to get all the best gear with a few lines of code and some tips from the creator of said HNM.
 
I guess the nerf will make manaburn gilsellers' lives hell. Which is good. I hope they don't make that as an excuse to nerf all BLMs though. To SE: BAN STICKS for gilsellers not the nerf stick pls!

Is is just me or people not excited about the IS based BCNMs? Oh and that sweet looking HNM (Hydra?) isnt news to everyone too?

By the size of this beast you can expect him not be a pansy like Cerberus lol
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/drool
 
The update also mentioned “Spirits Within” will be affected. Any Idea how badly this will effect HNM battles like Kirin?
 
Tagrineth said:
Summoner uses physical, not magical bloodpacts endgame. The level 70 pacts are physical attacks.
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you are false and incorrect.. please exit the stage.

magical blood pacts are used end game. please do not spread false info.
 
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