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yanzi said:
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xKronox said:
for the rest of you ignorant people:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Southwest/12/03/name.road.reut/
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Jap
on another note:
http://www.bartleby.com/68/58/3458.html
wow, you're actually insulting 2 races at once with one slur, what a 2 for 1 bargain.
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yanzi said:
Why don't read further down on dictionary.com It also gives the same DEF, as a noun, meaning a person a japense decent.... So how could it both be bad and normal at the same time? Doesn't fucking make sense.
Just a bunch of whinning bullshit. Like how black people used to get offended when you call them black. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
yanzi said:
I'm sorry, I didn't realize I needed to talk nice and friendly about them. Especially when one of them jacked 10 million gil boots. Oh, but that means I hate them, huh?
Anything else, twerp?
xKronox said:
why don't you use your brain? (unless you don't have one?) they are from different sources.
lol, when have black people ever been offended by calling them black?
vang said:
here's an idea, if you hate the japanese and all their fanboys this much, quit this game.
Falsey said:
i asked a simple question. if you didn't notice, he then started to flame me for it.
Falsey said:
besides, what makes you so sure he's a victim?
for all we know the item vanished into mid-air. read the thread in general discussion about /equip.
and now we are back to square one.... :roll:
Damn your random.
vang said:
my bad. :shock:
Basically what we have here, in terms of the situation as it was stated and expanded, is that 2 people spoke, 1 person mailed, and Someone lied. All the "evidence" gathered by tiya, tiamat, and vang, as shown in screenshots of gm conversations, amounts to the following: In order for Vang to prove his story, which tiamat says is his responsibility, Vang himself needs to contact a GM and demand that they pull the chatlogs and investigate the delivery transactions. Now. Vang HAS contacted a gm, by his own account numerous times, the result? he was told to basically get bent. the reply tiamat (japanese 3rd party with no bearing whatsoever on the matter) recieved from the gm was 100 times more informative, helpful and courteous than what was demonstrated in tiyas SS of her convo therewith, and 1 million times moreso than Vangs reported contacts with the gms. I think we can all learn from this, or at least have confirmed what we had already suspected. That a 3rd party like tiamat was able to get the most useful and informative reply to the situation while one of the involved participants was brushed off and threatened with jail if he continued (and indeed jailed for calling shel a liar in bazaar message) is clearly indicative of the type of people we are attempting to redress these grievances to. So basically what it boils down to is the gm told tiamat that to solve this, Vang has to contact a gm and request investigation, which when he did, he was told that Gms could NOT do the things the gm told tiamat they COULD do. Or if they could, Would not. So there will not be a resolution to this matter.
That being the case, the only way to obtain evidence is by having SHEL, yeah, thats right, SHEL request the investigation. vang requested it, and was ignored/denied. The gms dont listen to NA, they dont care about us, and we now have solid proof in the form of 3 GM conversations, in which the most polite and informative was to the jpn person who is almost totally uninvolved in the situation. So, if Shel requests this investigation, there is a much higher likelihood of results, and if shel is truly innocent, then he should have no reason not to do so. Until this occurs, i will presume shel guilty. Why do i do this in open contradiction of the american system of law? because vangs request to obtain evidence (which the jpn gm told the jpn 3rd pty would only be delivered to the person involved, ie vang or shel) was denied. I. smell. cover up. smells like bullshit to me.
another interesting thing to note is why the hell cant shel talk to a gm himself? id loooooooooove to see that part of the blacked out convo. shel doesnt speak english? does shel speak japanese, because even in that badly distorted ss that looked alot like japanese to me. If shel contacts a gm and gives the OK to the gm that the chatlogs be disclosed to Vang, id say that covers all legalities, as the consent of both parties represented therein has been given. the only reason i can see for not doing so is guilt. so in this case its not guilty until proven innocent, its guilty until even a marginal effort is made by shel to even ADRESS the problem. why does shel need a friend to talk to a japanese GM for him?
As a note in regards to taking sides here, shel it has been revealed has a dubious reputation as a scammer, and while, as vang has said himself 90% of the people on here hate him, its not for being a liar. or a scammer. its for being a cocky, loudmouth prick. but arrogant ass or mother theresa, ive never heard of vang being dishonest or cheating anyone out of anything, so im inclined to believe him.
as for the whole "vang should have known better" of course he should and he knows that, its not the issue here and i agree that bashing vang (which is fun after all) should be done in a different thread, if theres anything left to say. theres been a hell of a lot of it.
That being the case, the only way to obtain evidence is by having SHEL, yeah, thats right, SHEL request the investigation. vang requested it, and was ignored/denied. The gms dont listen to NA, they dont care about us, and we now have solid proof in the form of 3 GM conversations, in which the most polite and informative was to the jpn person who is almost totally uninvolved in the situation. So, if Shel requests this investigation, there is a much higher likelihood of results, and if shel is truly innocent, then he should have no reason not to do so. Until this occurs, i will presume shel guilty. Why do i do this in open contradiction of the american system of law? because vangs request to obtain evidence (which the jpn gm told the jpn 3rd pty would only be delivered to the person involved, ie vang or shel) was denied. I. smell. cover up. smells like bullshit to me.
another interesting thing to note is why the hell cant shel talk to a gm himself? id loooooooooove to see that part of the blacked out convo. shel doesnt speak english? does shel speak japanese, because even in that badly distorted ss that looked alot like japanese to me. If shel contacts a gm and gives the OK to the gm that the chatlogs be disclosed to Vang, id say that covers all legalities, as the consent of both parties represented therein has been given. the only reason i can see for not doing so is guilt. so in this case its not guilty until proven innocent, its guilty until even a marginal effort is made by shel to even ADRESS the problem. why does shel need a friend to talk to a japanese GM for him?
As a note in regards to taking sides here, shel it has been revealed has a dubious reputation as a scammer, and while, as vang has said himself 90% of the people on here hate him, its not for being a liar. or a scammer. its for being a cocky, loudmouth prick. but arrogant ass or mother theresa, ive never heard of vang being dishonest or cheating anyone out of anything, so im inclined to believe him.
as for the whole "vang should have known better" of course he should and he knows that, its not the issue here and i agree that bashing vang (which is fun after all) should be done in a different thread, if theres anything left to say. theres been a hell of a lot of it.
interesting story that i forgot, as it pertains to vangs bazaar message. a long time back there was an episode in gustav tunnel vs wyvernpoacher, 2 grs competeing for othinus bow. 1 NA 1 JP grp. the na group behaved professionally, quietly and efficiently while the jp group attempted with all means at their disposal to MPK the na competition. even after an hour of this the NA still didnt stoop to their level, but they DID decide to stick around for another hour (original plan was to go to onzozo for the blm earring nm). so poacher pops, na get kill, get bow, leave. later that night, one of the na finds a member of that jp camp pt in lower jueno with his bazaar message up, afk. calling a jp friend over to translate, the mesage was found to state the names of the 4 na in the pt and that this particular disgruntled camper (Hirojun) planned to mpk them back to lvl 1. this was reported to a gm. No action whatsoever was taken. yet vang ends up in jail for a bazaar message calling a (gasp) jp a thief. i call shenannegans.
Grieve said:
Listen to this guy he's got it right.
what the hell happened here? All I got was that some bad transaction over boots happened...
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vang said:
OK, Seriously, I've read through 12 pages of this garbage and I've had enough. Vang, seriously, you're a retard.
Why in the festering overly-hot nine hells would you trade with your god-damned delivery box!?
Anyone with a sixteenth of a brain, which is apparently everyone EXCEPT you can see that it leaves massive room for scamming! The kicker, however, is that it ~was you who suggested it!!!~
Honestly, it doesn't really matter if Shel is guilty or not. You actualy went through with it, so kudos to Shel, he swindled a retard out of a hell of alot of money.
Brings to mind an interesting proverb:
"A fool and his money are soon parted."
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"A fool and his money are soon parted."
At what moment does that make the person who took the money the good guy? or makes him right? at what moment does the fool deserve to be called names and flamed at?
You're no better than a scammer if you cheer him on with success, it only shows you'd be willing to do the same. Apparantly vang isn't as cynical as most the world seems to be, and I do ask you, is that so wrong?
At what moment does that make the person who took the money the good guy? or makes him right? at what moment does the fool deserve to be called names and flamed at?
You're no better than a scammer if you cheer him on with success, it only shows you'd be willing to do the same. Apparantly vang isn't as cynical as most the world seems to be, and I do ask you, is that so wrong?
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