Vang the liar

[Tiamat]

The problem had occurred before the translation.
I was going to use the function of the cellular phone.
The function of the digital camera is equipped in a general cellular phone of Japan.
I took the photograph.
And, I tried to send it to my PC with mail.
However, capacity was limit.
I can't send this picture.
So I use PC camera.
But, the image quality is very bad.
It is not an advantageous content for either.
Therefore, I stopped sticking to the image quality.

 

[Tiamat]

The problem had occurred before the translation.
I was going to use the function of the cellular phone.
The function of the digital camera is equipped in a general cellular phone of Japan.
I took the photograph.
And, I tried to send it to my PC with mail.
However, capacity was limit.
I can't send this picture.
So I use PC camera.
But, the image quality is very bad.
It is not an advantageous content for either.
Therefore, I stopped sticking to the image quality.

[GM]Wackavone answered my question.
G = GM M = me
＜　原文　＞
G　こんばんは、Mjamysterさん。お待たせいたしました
G　コール内容について詳細をお聞かせいただけますか？
G　通常のTellと同様に「Ctrl+R」または「/tell　Wackavone」にてご返答いただけます。
M　はい、まず聞きたいのですが
G　はい。
M　ある人物が本人で自分自身の配送記録を調べて欲しいといった場合
M　調べていただくことは可能ですか？
G　そこに何らかの問題が発生している場合は調査を行う場合もございますが、
M　いえ、調査ではなく明確に本人に伝えていただくことが出来るかということです
G　プレイヤーの皆さんの個人的な理由などで、調査を行うことは、原則としてございません。また問題があるとおもわれた案件について
G　調査を行った場合でも、申し訳ございませんが原則としてご本人様に調査結果のご返答は、お約束できません
M　なるほど、となるとちょっと話がこみいってきちゃうのですが、あなたはアルバイトの方ですか？
G　今回は、具体的にどういった問題が発生しておりますでしょうか？
M　出来ればそれなりの権限を持った方からのお話を聞きたいと思うのですが可能でしょうか？
M　現在私の友人と海外のユーザーとのあいだでトラブツが発生しています
M　海外のユーザーが私の友人にアイテムを盗まれたと主張しています。
G　なるほど。それでは、問題が発生しているご本人様から、改めてご相談いただければと存じますが、
M　-塗りつぶし-
G　ご本人様からコールいただくことは不可能というような状況でしょうか？
M　～理由部分ぬりつぶし～　ので、現在私があいだにたって問題を
M　解決しようとしています
M　また、本人が英語がほぼ話せませんので、問題は解決できないと思います
M　一旦エリアチェンジします
M　おｋです
G　なるほど、申し訳ございませんが、問題に直面しているご本人様からのコールにて対応を行っておりますので
G　GMへのご相談をご所望の場合は、問題を受けているご本人様からGMコールいただくようお伝え願えますでしょうか？
M　わかりました。最後にまとめておきたいのですが、配送記録を「調査」はするが
M　それを本人であるとしてもGM側から「報告」することは無い
M　という事でよろしいですか？
G　はい。配送記録に関わらず。調査の必要があるとGM側にて判断した場合は。適宜調査を行いますが
G　原則として個別返答は行っておりません
-塗りつぶし-
M　私からの質問とお願いは以上です。
G　それでは、今回はこれにて失礼させていただきます
M　はい、お忙しいところありがとうございました

塗りつぶした部分はプライベートに関わる部分です。残念ですが、そこを見せる事は出来ません。
この会話により、当事者からGMに処分を依頼する以外の解決法が全く無いという結論が出ました
それはつまり、私はShelの正当性を主張する事だけしか出来ず、
またShel本人も自身の潔白を証明できないということでもあります。
私は私に出来る唯一の事「Shelの潔白を訴える」
これを、すでに行っています。あとは私ができることは何もなくなってしまいました。
またVang氏の側も本人以外が何も出来ないという結論に達しました。
あとは私の出る幕ではありません
またVang氏側の第三者も出てくるべきではありません
Vang氏とGMで事態の収拾を図ってください
あなたが正しければ私はShelと会えなくなるでしょう
もし、この先もShelが変わらずプレイしていれば、それはあなたの嘘を証明する事になります
どのような事になるにせよ、私が現在言える事は、
そちらが強硬手段に出るならば、必ず報復があるだろう。という事です。
お互いがスマートに事態を解決できることを祈っております。
一旦Shiaさんに翻訳していただければ、と思います

 

[shibby]

Why would you black some of it out? Are you trying to hide something?

 

[Tiamat]

I'm sorry.
The button has been pushed by mistake on the way.
I'm sorry that the same content is submitted.

 

[Kipsy]

Why would you black some of it out? Are you trying to hide something?

If you look closely around what was blacked out, it looks to be light green. Linkshell conversations, stuff that's not relevant.

 

[Kipsy]

Why would you black some of it out? Are you trying to hide something?

If you look closely around what was blacked out, it looks to be light green. Linkshell conversations, stuff that's not relevant.

 

[Shia]

Would take me a while to translate this. But before anything I will need everyone to know why some part of the Screen shot was painted in black. This was because of some private matters between the GM and Timat, he did not want to put it on public. Shady action, possible truth inside there I have no clue, but by him posting these evidence I commend him that he takes this matter seriously so I would give my trust and translate what is seen... in 30min. Sorry work calls atm.

 

[Shia]

Quick summerise before I head back to work. The GM have the power to search for the mog house transfer event. But what GM would NOT do is to actually report this matter or result to the actual player. Which means, they will search, but they will not report the result to the player (in this case to Tiamat or Shel). If the matter has some issues to the players and must be studied further, then they will take further actions. However this won't be notified to the players.

It actually means they will handdle the thing but the player won't know what the hell is going on. I will translate step by step when I go back home.

 

[Veresko]

How come Tiamat, who is a third party, was able to get a GM's attention, let alone to have him look into it more seriously, when Vang, who is involved directly, got politely said to fuck off?

Just asking....

 

[happosai]

because NA GMs are dickhead? While JP GMs take things more seriously. Maybe....just a thought. I'm not accusing anything.

 

[alanon]

How come Tiamat, who is a third party, was able to get a GM's attention, let alone to have him look into it more seriously, when Vang, who is involved directly, got politely said to fuck off?

Just asking....

I dont know, reading Shia's initial translation, the GM may have been telling Tiamet the same thing only differently. I mean come on! The GM's can investigate but wont share what they find? I wan a job as a GM. All day long I could sit there and tell people that I investigated their problem but couldnt share results, all the while actually not lifting a finger! Gms are worthless.

 

[Jagster]

Good call alanon, dream job.

I'm sorry I can't help you

I'm sorry I can't help you

I'm sorry I can't help you

I'm sorry I can't help you

And I bet they're doing ok too

 

[vang]

And I think a ton us are sick to death of your whining Vang. Shit or get off the pot. Prove it or disprove it, or stfu about it.

Bottom line is it wasn't real money. It was gil. It was a pair of very expensive FFXI boots. Oh well.

If someone had stole your car, or hacked into your checking acct., or stole your major credit cards, or robbed or house or killed your sister cuz they were driving drunk (like what happened to mine) or something like that, I think alot of us would understand you droning on and on and on and on and on.

Grow up. It's a damn pair of boots that aren't even real. Good Grief.

Like I said old lady, get the fuck out of the thread if you're just gonna hijack it with stupid ass comments. Do you crave attention that much? Oh and btw I worked my ass for those boots and if we want to talk the money route. Those boots sell for 10 million gil, thats like 250 to 300 real dollars on gil selling websites.

So, therefore, this little punk stole 200-300 dollars from me and deserves to be roasted. Got nothing important to say as usual Kat? Good, then stay out of threads that do not pertain to you if you can't stay on track. I know it's tough and all, being an old woman. :wink:

BTW wasn't that you talking about scheduling doctor's appointments around your FF playtime and how this game more or less used to run your life? Yea...

GOOD GRIEF.

If you don't know that the "You know you play too much FFXI when ... is a joke then you take forum and these threads way too seriously.

Secondly, I'm 43 Vang. Hardly old. And when you finally grow up little BOY and I do mean BOY, you will learn this also. As you have soooo much more to learn in life, besides bein' full of "Vang" or whoever you are.

Lastly, I am watching this thread because I play with a ton of Japanese players and I'm making sure you don't go off slammin' them like you do so many who don't see it your way. As I said already GROW UP little boy. 17 pages of you whining is very old indeed. You get more and more boring all the time. Oh and btw, I've had insults from the best, and you calling me old means nothing. I just consider the source of where it's coming from. You can't cut down my job, you can't cut down my level, you can't cut down my gear. So what is left? Because I'm a PROUD Mother of my Daugther, who is 22 and my Grandchildren, you call me "old". Well, sorry the jokes on you.

PS. I think you're the one who craves the attention, Vang. Every time someone turns around, you're posting a thread about something. And furthermore there are 17 pages here of you saying the same thing over and over and over. If that isn't an attention whore, I sure the hell don't know what is.

Hey lady, I thought I told you to stay out of the thread if you had nothing important to add. How swell of you to come in and defend the poor JP players who ripped me off. Niiice...how noble of you.

Blah i cut out the rest of the post as to not start another huge war with another crabby player. So i will leave you with just the above paragraph.

 

[Buputhetaru]

Hi everyone long time no see! I only have internet access at work for the rest of this month so no ff for me recently but anyway. All I can think of to say is if you are going off about someone else bitching on here do this. Stop look and think. You are on the flameboard there is bitching going on, get the fuck over it. No one has a gun to your fucking head making you read this shit. So please STFU!

On that note hope everyone is well! ^^

 

[Svina]

I was under the impression that GMs had to be bilingual...

 

[GhostinmyShell]

I'm stupid and I need attention!

Sorry but after your constant threads about how much more elite and professional you seem to undermine your fellow player, I have a hard time thinking you would actually be smart enough to send a pair of Strider Boots to a random player. Then again it was Shel so maybe you did get robbed for real, but yeah definitely stupid on your part.

SE will never replace your boots.

If I was someone you bemoaned in one of your threads I would be laughing my ass off at the karma that has come around to bite you in the ass.

I'm not Kats biggest fan but I think your going to lose the sympathy vote by now attacking your little support base.

You need to replace your sig btw, just excuses and no brains.

 

[Veteran]

And I think a ton us are sick to death of your whining Vang. Shit or get off the pot. Prove it or disprove it, or stfu about it.

Bottom line is it wasn't real money. It was gil. It was a pair of very expensive FFXI boots. Oh well.

If someone had stole your car, or hacked into your checking acct., or stole your major credit cards, or robbed or house or killed your sister cuz they were driving drunk (like what happened to mine) or something like that, I think alot of us would understand you droning on and on and on and on and on.

Grow up. It's a damn pair of boots that aren't even real. Good Grief.

Like I said old lady, get the fuck out of the thread if you're just gonna hijack it with stupid ass comments. Do you crave attention that much? Oh and btw I worked my ass for those boots and if we want to talk the money route. Those boots sell for 10 million gil, thats like 250 to 300 real dollars on gil selling websites.

So, therefore, this little punk stole 200-300 dollars from me and deserves to be roasted. Got nothing important to say as usual Kat? Good, then stay out of threads that do not pertain to you if you can't stay on track. I know it's tough and all, being an old woman. :wink:

BTW wasn't that you talking about scheduling doctor's appointments around your FF playtime and how this game more or less used to run your life? Yea...

GOOD GRIEF.

If you don't know that the "You know you play too much FFXI when ... is a joke then you take forum and these threads way too seriously.

Secondly, I'm 43 Vang. Hardly old. And when you finally grow up little BOY and I do mean BOY, you will learn this also. As you have soooo much more to learn in life, besides bein' full of "Vang" or whoever you are.

Lastly, I am watching this thread because I play with a ton of Japanese players and I'm making sure you don't go off slammin' them like you do so many who don't see it your way. As I said already GROW UP little boy. 17 pages of you whining is very old indeed. You get more and more boring all the time. Oh and btw, I've had insults from the best, and you calling me old means nothing. I just consider the source of where it's coming from. You can't cut down my job, you can't cut down my level, you can't cut down my gear. So what is left? Because I'm a PROUD Mother of my Daugther, who is 22 and my Grandchildren, you call me "old". Well, sorry the jokes on you.

PS. I think you're the one who craves the attention, Vang. Every time someone turns around, you're posting a thread about something. And furthermore there are 17 pages here of you saying the same thing over and over and over. If that isn't an attention whore, I sure the hell don't know what is.

Hey lady, I thought I told you to stay out of the thread if you had nothing important to add. How swell of you to come in and defend the poor JP players who ripped me off. Niiice...how noble of you.

Blah i cut out the rest of the post as to not start another huge war with another crabby player. So i will leave you with just the above paragraph.

 

[vang]

I'm stupid and I need attention!

Sorry but after your constant threads about how much more elite and professional you seem to undermine your fellow player, I have a hard time thinking you would actually be smart enough to send a pair of Strider Boots to a random player. Then again it was Shel so maybe you did get robbed for real, but yeah definitely stupid on your part.

SE will never replace your boots.

If I was someone you bemoaned in one of your threads I would be laughing my ass off at the karma that has come around to bite you in the ass.

I'm not Kats biggest fan but I think your going to lose the sympathy vote by now attacking your little support base.

You need to replace your sig btw, just excuses and no brains.

I have a hard time thinking you would actually be smart enough to send a pair of Strider Boots to a random player.

Does anyone know what the hell this idiot is talking about? Go reread Kat's posts and my responses. If anything she attacked me, so now that you look stupid, feel stupid and have a nice day ^^

 

[GhostinmyShell]

I'm stupid and I need attention!

Sorry but after your constant threads about how much more elite and professional you seem to undermine your fellow player, I have a hard time thinking you would actually be smart enough to send a pair of Strider Boots to a random player. Then again it was Shel so maybe you did get robbed for real, but yeah definitely stupid on your part.

SE will never replace your boots.

If I was someone you bemoaned in one of your threads I would be laughing my ass off at the karma that has come around to bite you in the ass.

I'm not Kats biggest fan but I think your going to lose the sympathy vote by now attacking your little support base.

You need to replace your sig btw, just excuses and no brains.

I have a hard time thinking you would actually be smart enough to send a pair of Strider Boots to a random player.

Does anyone know what the hell this idiot is talking about? Go reread Kat's posts and my responses. If anything she attacked me, so now that you look stupid, feel stupid and have a nice day ^^

That gets a 3 for effort I guess. :roll:

 

[Neche]

SE will never replace your boots

I think this is now a "what accually happened" kind of thing and not as much "SE replace my boots!"